Trump claims his briefing on Russian cyberattacks was delayed, but US intelligence officer says othe

[applegrove]

Trump claims his briefing on Russian cyberattacks was delayed, but US intelligence officer says otherwise

by Mark Abadi at Business Insider

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-mocks-intelligence-officials-russian-cyberattack-2017-1

"SNIP.............


"The 'Intelligence' briefing on so-called 'Russian hacking' was delayed until Friday, perhaps more time needed to build a case. Very strange!" Trump said on Twitter.

However, a senior US intelligence official immediately refuted Trump’s claim, saying the briefing with the heads of the NSA, CIA, DNI and the FBI was "always" scheduled for Friday, NBC News reported.

Last week, Trump said he agreed to meet with intelligence officials about Russia's involvement in the hacks, although he added it was "time to move on."

He also claimed he would reveal insider information about the cyberattacks on Tuesday or Wednesday, although a member of Trump's team told CNN Trump would not be following through.



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[madaboutharry]

1. I don't think the nation can withstand

Trump's craziness for four years. This twitter shit is like something out of a modern day Monty Pithon movie.

[awoke_in_2003]

17. Monte Python was funny

This guy is scary.

[madaboutharry]

21. You're right

That was a bad analogy.

[pangaia]

2. Glad he is being corrected.

I just hope there will be people left after he cleans house to fight back as well...

[ginnyinWI]

20. The media needs to report every lie as a lie, not just a statement

by DT and presume good faith. Like this one did--call it out as false right in the title.

[HopeAgain]

3. did anyone think he would

be following through? Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Fool me over and over again, call me a Trump supporter.

[Ohioblue22]

4. just like ford pardoning nixon.

[C_U_L8R]

5. Gaslighting the gaslighter?

Whatever. Let the games begin.
No one messes with our intelligence services
the way Trump did without some consequence.

[Maru Kitteh]

22. That would actually be pretty amusing

but I suspect his need to bloviate with braggadocio combined most unfortunately with his tiny attention span and his lack of giving a rat's ass - and he just blurted out "Tuesday or Wednesday" because he forgot when it was supposed to happen.

[Jacob Boehme]

6. New guidance being followed by the intelligence community....

....when giving tRump his information briefs: Never try to teach a pig to sing, it just wastes your time and annoys the pig.

[ProudLib72]

7. Are you seriously

comparing tRump to a pig?

I know plenty of pigs who would be outraged at your analogy!

[spanone]

8. liar in chief

[SaschaHM]

9. Is Trump going to be the first republican president...

absolutely despised by the U.S. Intelligence apparatus? They're going to leak some brutal shit on him.

[applegrove]

11. Apparently you have to be actively fawning over him or you are his enemy.

[FuzzyRabbit]

18. How much more brutal does it have to be than what is already known?

He scammed his Trump University "students".

He is racist and demands that all non-white workers in his hotels and restaurants stay out of sight whenever he is visiting.

He doesn't pay people who do work for him.

He has all his Trump products made by sweatshop labor overseas instead of by US workers.

He bribed Florida attorney general Pam Bondi into dropping Florida's Trump University suit.

He jokes about assaulting women.

He has been photographed with his teenage daughter in sexually suggestive poses. He even called her a "piece of ass" on national radio.

He ran his modeling agency with a man who drugged and bullied underage models to have sex with their middle aged friends.

The list goes on and on. There is nothing at all admirable about Donald Trump.

[progressoid]

10. Trump lied????

Shocking.

[Cha]

12. LIAR LIAR.. Whole damn entity on FIRE!

[True_Blue]

13. Intelligence briefings aren't high on his list of priorities

From the article...
"Last month, the president-elect brushed off concerns he wasn't attending his traditional daily intelligence and national security briefings.

"I get it when I need it," Trump said.

We are so screwed!

[alfredo]

15. You get it when the nation needs it. Asshole

[applegrove]

16. Here, here!

[alfredo]

14. Hey Don, don't fuck with the CIA. They know how to get even.

They probably have files upon files, audio and video recordings of your dealings with the Russians.

[hughee99]

24. We should all hope that they don't have such files.

I'm not sure which scenario I would find more disturbing, that the CIA had such information but decided not to reveal it to president Obama and saved it for leverage against the next president, or that the CIA had such information, informed president Obama of it, and the president decided to keep it quiet.

[alfredo]

25. The CIA sees a prominent US businessman cozying up to

Russian mobsters, they also see him go deeply in debt to Russian banks. They know that debt can be used as leverage against him. That makes him a security risk.

Did Trump have his rooms in Moscow swept for listening and video devices? Did he commit sexual acts that might be seen as illegal or embarrassing? Did he cut deals with Russians that might be detrimental to US interests, and the Russians have the proof?

[hughee99]

27. If this did actually happen, which scenario are you more comfortable with

A CIA that decided to keep this information to themselves so that they, themselves, could leverage it against trump, or a CIA that passed this information on to the Administration, who decided NOT to tell the American people about such activities or prosecute such activities if they were illegal.

[alfredo]

29. Leverage is the most likely scenario.

They might want him to fear them more more than he loves Russia.

[alfredo]

30. Leverage is the most likely scenario.

They might want him to fear them more more than he loves Russia.

[hughee99]

31. Are you okay with the idea that a government agency keeps important information from the

American people just so that they can use it as leverage against a sitting elected official? Frankly, I find that an extremely disturbing prospect, and it would leave me with absolutely no confidence that the CIA would "protect us" from Trump. In fact, I think this might make our problems worse.

[alfredo]

33. You don't show your hand before the time is right.

If that official has shown split loyalties, and has access to top secret Intel, the CIA or other Intel agencies would be derelict in its duty if they didn't try to neutralize the threat.

In this case, leverage could be better than frog marching him out of the Oval Office. We don't need an armed uprising.

[hughee99]

35. Would you feel the same way about the CIA keeping

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Blackmail material on elected officials if Clinton had won? If Dems controlled congress?

Even now, do you have faith that the CIA would protect the country's interests rather than simply advance their own agenda?

[alfredo]

36. Blackmail is an ugly word. It could be an incentive to cut personal ties with the Russians,

or any foreign entity.

Trump has no self control, and his hostile relationship with the truth makes him dangerous.

His attempts at destroying the CIA's reputation plays right into Putin's hands.

BTW, Clinton never showed hostility to the CIA.

[hughee99]

38. That's sort of tap dancing around the question, isn't it?

Let me ask this in another way...

In general, are you okay with government agencies keeping information secret, even from their own bosses, so they can coerce politicians into doing certain things?

Do you think it's okay if they're trying to get a politician to "do the right thing" and do you feel like their idea of "the right thing" is the same as your idea of "the right thing"?

[alfredo]

39. When it concerns national security, should the CIA do nothing?

I don't think they collect intel for the sole purpose of coercion. Trump is an exceptional case, and Trump is an exceptional risk.

Doing the right thing, in this case is not to compromise our security. That is about the extent of my support for the use of persuasion.

To get access to classified material, you have to undergo a rigorous investigation into all aspects of your life. You won't get clearance if they find you untrustworthy. Trump is untrustworthy.

[hughee99]

40. The CIA has the option of turning this information

Over to the justice department if they believe something illegal has been done. They can turn this information over to the administration, if they believe that national security is at risk. Hell, they can turn this information over to the IRS if they believe there are tax issues in question. Coercing trump in secret and doing nothing are not their only two options.

Personally, I think this would set a frightening precedent where government agencies use government resources to coerce politicians and advance their own agendas, and I absolutely don't trust them, on their own, to do what's right.

If I understand correctly, though, you have answered my question, which is that you are okay with it in this instance, because it's trump.

[alfredo]

41. With a Trump crony in the DoJ, nothing will be done.

[hunter]

19. How do you tell when Trump is lying?

His lips are moving or his thumbs are twittering.

[11 Bravo]

23. Hmmmm. Who should I believe?

A group of intelligence professionals who have dedicated their lives to keeping this nation safe, or a tedious tweeting tangerine toddler?

That's a tough one.

[alfredo]

26. The more Rump and McConnell fight against an investigation,

the more suspicious I become. Why are they trying to kill an investigation an investigation of Russian espionage?

[Bucky]

28. I'm not comfortable with a president announcing details of his intelligence briefings.

This is still not normal. I seriously hope his briefers are hiding key assets from him. It's still damned dangerous.

People are gonna die because Republicans couldn't nominate a grown up. Jesus this is so weird to watch.

[Takket]

32. heard on the news today that the CIA

is "distraught and dismayed" that Trump is going out of his way to repeatedly "humiliate" them. He's making enemies of the wrong people. Someone in there needs to do that right thing. We want to tax returns!!!!!!!!!!!

[spanone]

34. K&R...

[wordpix]

37. "member of Trump's team told CNN Trump would not be following through"

Keep dialing him back, repuke polliticos. "insider information" sounds intriguing, would love to hear more.

[DFW]

42. Now THERE'S a phrase America had better get used to hearing:

"... a member of Trump's team told CNN Trump would not be following through. "

[uponit7771]

43. He's still at it... Not hours later !!!!