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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe disturbing undertones of today's Trump-Arnold Twitter spat.
In case you haven't heard, the Madman posted this on Twitter this morning:
Donald J. Trump ?@realDonaldTrump · 2h2 hours ago
Wow, the ratings are in and Arnold Schwarzenegger got "swamped" (or destroyed) by comparison to the ratings machine, DJT. So much for....
?Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump · 2h2 hours ago
being a movie star-and that was season 1 compared to season 14. Now compare him to my season 1. But who cares, he supported Kasich & Hillary
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/817350726800306177
It's more than just petty celebrity gossip about a stupid reality show. Nor is it just the run-of-the-mill Trump acting a fool on Twitter.
Why does this disturb me?
Well, despite what should have been glaring, obvious conflicts of interest, the Madman is still listed as an executive producer on The Apprentice. I know, it's absolute ridiculous, but that's just a fact.
One would think that someone as an Executive Producer of a show would want to act in its own best interest and not denigrate it based on petty personality spats.
But that's not who Donald Trump is. Donald Trump is and has always been about only one thing: Donald Trump. He's psychologically incapable of transcending anything beyond his own ego. So he might be the executive producer of The Apprentice but obviously he has no loyalty to it or desire to see it succeed because his successor at host has in his mind crossed him and failed him.
Now, it's one thing if we're talking about a crappy, formulaic reality TV show. However it's an entirely different thing if we're talking about the United States of America.
In two weeks, barring an unexpected coronary event, Donald Trump is slated to become this country's chief executive. He'll stand up and take an oath of loyalty to protect our country. His ego should not transcend that duty of loyalty.
However, what we see here is that the man has no loyalty to anyone but himself. None. He'll burn the entire house down if it makes him feel any better for his feelings being hurt. And that is so, so incredibly disturbing when one considers our very country as at stake in his little hands.
As goes The Apprentice, so goes the United States of America.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Cha
(297,149 posts)and Obama.
brush
(53,764 posts)that show. Come on, orange one. Think.
It's been on 14 years. Nobody cares about that show anymore.
America has been there and done that. Hell, ratings have been declining for the last few years.
Why does trump not get that the show has run its course no matter who he puts on there?
And this guy is president and can't grasp that.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,174 posts)It's up against CBS's Monday night comedies (starting with Big Bang Theory) and ABC's "The Bachelor". Every network has to have dogs to counterprogram the ratings winners. Like all "reality" shows, "The Apprentice" is cheap to produce. As far as I know, it doesn't even have a second life in syndication. It's a dog.
MrModerate
(9,753 posts)Even in these DVR-assisted days that's a huge sign hung by the network saying "Factory floor sweepings go here."
TeamPooka
(24,221 posts)NBC didn't notice.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... while even the people who support his racist ass don't want to be too close
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)woodsprite
(11,911 posts)Fla Dem
(23,650 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)The ratings have nothing to do with the fact that Trump is more popular than Arnold -- its a tired, 15 year old show that no one wants to watch anymore.
Zoonart
(11,849 posts)Trump burned it down. It has his stink all over it.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)MFM008
(19,805 posts)Because most people don't want to see anything that reminds them of HIM.......
kytngirl
(99 posts)GusBob
(7,286 posts)of a reality show
Jesus Fucking Christ
Arkansas Granny
(31,514 posts)3catwoman3
(23,973 posts)My incredulity has not diminished one whit since the travesty of the so-called election. In fact, I think it is getting worse. The thought that this buffoon is about to occupy the Oval Office horrifies me to my core.
It is like an episode of the Twilight Zone, except that those only lasted for a hour.
Motley13
(3,867 posts)2 wks to doomsday
MFM008
(19,805 posts)...............................
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)ProfessorGAC
(64,995 posts)Especially when you consider that these shows have almost nothing to do with reality.
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)We need to resurrect every criticism of how Obama budgeted his time after Trump is sworn in.
Butterflylady
(3,542 posts)The America we all know and love will cease to be.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)Put on your seatbelts, its gonna be a bumpy ride!
progressoid
(49,978 posts)a sad welcome to DU Butterflylady.
dgibby
(9,474 posts)That will just be the icing on the cake. GOP is already up to its dirty tricks. I have absolutely no hope that this country is going to survive in any recognizable form. Just glad I'm old and have no children or grandchildren. I do worry about my nieces and nephews and their children, though. So sad.
Welcome to DU. There's comfort in knowing there are those of like minds here.
bdamomma
(63,836 posts)as a red alert:
Please read or watch this interview from Democracy Now.
https://www.democracynow.org/2016/8/10/donald_doesnt_know_anything_author_david
mnhtnbb
(31,382 posts)spanone
(135,823 posts)Rollo
(2,559 posts)One that stipulates the minimum qualifications for the presidency include an emotional age higher than 10 years.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)Although I think it was a common saying anyway. But still, that phrase keeps popping up in my head every time I think of Trump.
nolabear
(41,959 posts)I think he tips his hand as to how very angry he is about being dissed by celebrities everywhere. He mentions "swamped" in quotes, which I think is his general reference now to everyone he hates, his "deplorables." He's furious at not actually BEING the most important, powerful, godlike figure on the earth.
Trust me. The man's nuts in a very, very dangerous way. It's possible he's creating diversions but I don't think it's in a smart, chess-playing way. It's the way someone sets a fire to hide a murder, and gets off on both.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Letting this happen on purpose?
Are they letting him continue to melt down publicly, for some unknown reason? You would think that they would at least take away his twitter account, if he can't stop sending such goofy messages out to the entire world.
There has to be something we are missing.
coco22
(1,258 posts)maybe something else.
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)Trashpot Trump in the corner.
nolabear
(41,959 posts)Got to be the worst job security in the world.
coco22
(1,258 posts)the times or places.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)needs to be impeached and locked up as soon as possible!
I have never watched Celebrity Apprentice, this NBC show was merely an hour long TV commercial which became apparent after the first episode of The Apprentice years ago.
"Celebrities" in a cheaply produced venue sporadically giving out corporate chump-change to their favorite charity has to be one of the least interesting ideas of all time.
I am watching it, though. That scumbag Republican cracked-actor hosting now is a million times better human being than the pestilence of humanity about to flush into the White House. If we - the viewers - can take the ratings up, another chance to drive that imbecile insane!
Go, Arnold!
coco22
(1,258 posts)he will make at the inauguration. I believe he will name Hillary,Bill,President Obama an no telling who else no one can tell me that he is not insane he has a combination of mental problems and the mind of a child.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)I stand by my diagnosis.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)This is not a change in his personality, this is the way he has always been.
Narcissistic personality disorder is the closest fit.
Many psychology experts use the criteria in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), published by the American Psychiatric Association, to diagnose mental conditions. DSM-5 criteria for NPD includes these features:
Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance.
Expecting to be recognized as superior.
Exaggerating your achievements and talents.
Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate.
Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people.
Requiring constant admiration.
Having a sense of entitlement.
Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations.
Taking advantage of others to get what you want.
Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others.
Being envious of others and believing others envy you
Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-wagner/trump-and-narcissistic-pe_b_11289332.html
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Poisoning, particularly with regard to Anti-Social PD, Narcissistic PD, and Borderline PD.
They're pretty much incurable. And a key characteristic is their willingness --even eagerness--to hurt other people, destroy relationships, destroy lives over what, to normal ppl, are trivialities.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)How many voters didn't recognize his personality disorder, or simply chose to ignore it, is shocking.
I hope it's the former, and that his supporters will eventually have their eyes opened!
I had a company President who I could tell was mentally disturbed right away, but barely anyone else there recognized it. The guy eventually pointed a loaded gun at the heads of managers at a meeting, and finally more people realized there was a problem! (He was later fired, but the other shocking part of that story is that the managers didn't call the police and the maniac still had a "clean record" to maintain his concealed-carry license.)
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)Trump is going to spend 90% of his time attacking people that he thinks have done him wrong over the course of his life and trying to ruin them. The other 10% of the time will be him accepting credit for anything positive happening anywhere in the world or blaming his enemies for anything bad that happens.
Mike Pence is going to do the day-to-day administration.
Skinner
(63,645 posts)Does make you think.
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)Trump cannot allow himself to be a loser. It cannot be his fault so he'll blame someone else even if it means tanking his own show.
iluvtennis
(19,849 posts)Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)erpowers
(9,350 posts)Despite sagging ratings, Donald Trump is back with another season of The Celebrity Apprentice on NBC. Will the network keep the show going for another year or fire cancel the show and its host instead? Well have to wait and see.
http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/celebrity-apprentice-season-six-ratings-27180/
The sixth season of The Apprentice was by far the worst-received season of The Apprentice, and also the least watched on its initial run (the tenth season would later receive considerably lower viewing figures). Critics and many fans alike were very unfavorable to the various radical changes the show had made (such as being a Project Manager until failing, or having a winning Project Manager serve in the boardroom and advise Trump on who to fire) and thought the show lost its original appeal. They believed that producers were trying to incorporate more of a sensational edge to the show, rather than focus on the aspects of the business world, and some speculated that the show was trying to specifically mirror Survivor, with having the weekly losing candidates live in tents with no power or running water. Moreover, footage of the actual projects that candidates would work on was substantially cut, after the tasks in this season often took up as little as a fifth of the episode, whereas the tasks in previous seasons took up between a third and a half of the episode's running time. Trump later blamed creator and executive producer Mark Burnett for these ideas, who ironically is also the creator of Survivor. The 90-minute premiere of the sixth season averaged 9.1 million overall viewers and a 4.1/10 rating/share in the Adults 1849 demographic. The figure for total viewers for the show's sixth season debut was much lower than that of the show's fifth season debut.[18] The second episode of season 6 averaged 7.3 million viewers.[19]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Apprentice_(U.S._season_6)#Ratings
Despite hopes by fans that this season would lead to a permanent return of the original format, the season received the lowest audience figures of any Apprentice season, managing barely half the ratings of the panned season six, which had been the previous lowest-rated season. In addition, critics roundly condemned the decision to bring back the non-charity format, saying it was inappropriate to do so during an economic crisis (despite the fact that this season was dedicated to helping victims of the recession). Because of the poor ratings and lackluster reception of this season, Trump confirmed on the day of the final episode that the original format would be permanently discontinued after this season, and that all future seasons of the show would be in the Celebrity Apprentice format.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Apprentice_(U.S._season_10)
rgbecker
(4,826 posts)Like never before. And it may get worse when Pence writes the letter declaring Trump incompetent and asking the Congress to remove Trump and install him.
world wide wally
(21,740 posts)and just refuse to watch it. I never watched it for more than two minutes at a time, but even the recent commercials pushing Arnold made me instantly sick to see knowing it was related to Trump.
Separation
(1,975 posts)There is no such thing as bad publicity. My guess is he trashed it so people would tune in next week to watch the trainwreck and boost the ratings.
FSogol
(45,476 posts)barbtries
(28,787 posts)Trumps hypersensitivity and unedited, untempered Pavlovian responses are, shall we say, unusual in both ferocity and predictability.
This is beyond narcissism. I used to think Trump was an 11-year-old, an undeveloped schoolyard bully. I was off by about 10 years. His needs are more primitive, an infantile hunger for approval and praise, a craving that can never be satisfied. He lives in a cocoon of solipsism where the world outside himself has value indeed exists only insofar as it sustains and inflates him.
i've been saying this for months but never expressed it this well. Trump is a sick man. talk about the elephant in the room.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)you know things are really bad for this country.
barbtries
(28,787 posts)how can he still be republican? at least he said it out loud.
3catwoman3
(23,973 posts)That so many voters fell for this incompetent sideshow jackass scam artist is distressing in the extreme.
LittleGirl
(8,282 posts)that I am agreeing with someone like Krauthammer in the first place. gaaaaa
Hekate
(90,645 posts)RiverStone
(7,228 posts)About a totally incompetent buffoon and fascist taking over the presidency.
Initech
(100,063 posts)angrychair
(8,694 posts)In a handful of days, our president and many other Democratic Party leaders, will stand on the same stage and shake his hand, slap him on the back, congratulating him on being president now.
At that very moment he will be commander in chief of the most powerful military force in the history of the world. A military force that he can send at least a portion of, against anyone he wants, anywhere in the world, without notice or permission from anyone.
He can use a completely secret process to declare any US citizen an "enemy combatant", strip them of their rights as US citizens and send them Gitmo.
Within his first hour of being in the WH, a member of our armed forces with a case handcuffed to his arm as well as a couple of armed forces members, will join him alone in the Oval Office and give him the run down on the "Football", the process and launch codes for launching our nuclear arsenal.
This selfish, narcissistic, petty, racist is the next president.
coco22
(1,258 posts)his petty payback list.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Grow up, Donald!
Good grief. Seriously, Donald, just grow up and try to pretend you've got some sense even when we all know you don't.
C_U_L8R
(44,998 posts)Trump needs to be in white padded room, not the White House.
Normal people just don't behave this way. He's sick.
longship
(40,416 posts)I'm not a big Arnold fan politically, but one cannot resist sticking it to Drumpf.
Pick your own Arnold meme to pull Drumpf's shorts.
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)Vs @real DonaldTrump. It was pretty funny.
Maybe if a few hundred people did that, he'd dump twitter. He wouldn't be able to keep up with all of the trolls misrepresenting him (in his mind).
Javaman
(62,517 posts)HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)It created Trump, it lets bigamists and mobsters be heroes, it celebrates shallow people and made Duck Dynasty bigots and greedy Kardashians the most admired trash in the world.
Do yourselves a favor and pick up a book instead.
But I'll be happy to let you know what I really think...
Buns_of_Fire
(17,174 posts)Follow the hilarious antics of a dolt who becomes President of the United States! Watch as Donnie Boo Boo:
* plunges half the population into poverty!
* orders the military to invade Canada and take their maple syrup!
* tries to build a really, really tall wall off the coast of California!
* accidentally starts WWIII!
You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll experience every moment as if you were a resident of his hapless country!
Remember: January 20 on NBC! Don't miss it!
We're serious here. You better NOT miss it! There'll be a test in the morning and we're taking names!
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Vinca
(50,261 posts)JDC
(10,125 posts)If he got by with still being the Exec Producer, he probably is thinking he can do the show also - in his spare time.....
He sure as shit doesn't really want to be POTUS
The Pundits and Trump teamers like KAC, Sean Spicer, Chris Collins, etc will compare it to Obama doing talk shows, throw out the usual Obama was golfing lines - equating it to "all the free time Obama has," and Trump will do the show without anyone stopping him because it is "So unprecedented."
I have come to realize that at least 45% of the american people think the job of POTUS is just a figurehead position anyhow. It explains the whole fucking mess.
Alekzander
(479 posts)in his mad ways, his purpose is to generate publicity for something, it is an attention getter & this is what he is doing here.
He does not do the logical but the illogical & unfortunately, it has worked for him
Where I am disturbed at all this, this guy is hooked in with NBC, he still is the executive not counting he is planning on making millions as President from his businesses just like Putin has done.
harun
(11,348 posts)he do anything for the team? It's all about Trump.
classof56
(5,376 posts)The one the RNC christmas card referred to as our New King?
Okay, I'm going to be sick again.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Released today about Putin's interference.
gulliver
(13,180 posts)Worktodo
(288 posts)Which is why, outside of this site, I won't click on any article about a trump tweet. Starve the beast. Heck, we don't even know if trump writes them himself-- it's all just vapor.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)ecstatic
(32,684 posts)to the show? Maybe the ratings weren't a referendum on Schwarzenegger, but on tRump? And maybe a part of him knows that, that's why he lashed out (trying to save face).
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Sunlei
(22,651 posts)hard to tell what RW 'faction' really backed trump through his entire campaign of 16? months.
He did only call in phone 'exclusive' interviews almost daily with fox-lies.
90% of the news stories (much fake-news, propaganda), his personal account tweeted were from breibart, the hill & fox.
his association with palin were quiet, unreported, he got the baggers early.
Ds went along and seemed to accept use of the word trump instead of Republican over the entire past year. Many Ds constantly allowed headlines with trump in every one to dominate D websites.
IMO, breaking news rules, the headline system in particular needs to be changed. To late now but the propaganda system the RW used took full advantage of the top website for Democrats in the USA, DU. and this is the top website by ranking. This website was even hacked, offline for elections! It's discusting what Republicans allowed to happen to our democracy.
manafort in trumps campaign did not seem to bother anyone. I remember reading his bio & then posting about "why is Russias Ukraine busting Lawyer with trump campaign"? Republicans were in early colluding with Russia to beat Hillary/Sanders.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)I think I'll check it out
lark
(23,091 posts)He's president for Russia, for himself, for the rich and for anyone that sucks up to him. For all the rest, he's a total menace to our way of life and personal security. He aims to steal everything from us and give it to himself, Russia and his oligarch friends. He's using the presidency to save his failed company because he;s really an ignorant buffoon who's only good at manipulation and is horrible at decision making and has no relationship with truth or morals. He just doesn't care about those things at all,