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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumscongress should be forced to have the same healthcare they provide for the masses.
what's good for the goose.....
WhiteTara
(29,704 posts)if he planned to give up his health insurance or if his staffer planned to give up hers and she said, "Well, no!"
Scum
Iggo
(47,549 posts)I'm easy.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)they want to put the American citizens.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)See my post below, and read the current law.
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R43194.pdf
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,451 posts)Got a link on that? 'They' would mean all as you imply. Let's see it.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/health-care-for-members-of-congress/
Why does this old canard persist? Why is it repeated here? Even before the ACA, members of Congress bought insurance through the same pool as all government workers, through the Federal Employees Health Benefits program. Just like you and I get our insurance through the workplace. And now they must get it through the exchanges of the ACA.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Exchanges for ACA, ergo they are not in the ACA pool.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)In 2014 they were required to move from the Federal Employee's Benefits insurance pool to the ACA exchanges.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)House and Senate members are allowed to purchase private health insurance offered through the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program, which covers more than 8 million other federal employees, retirees and their families.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)You forgot to read the beginning, which I clearly put in my original post:
Note: This item is no longer current. It was accurate at the time it was written in 2009, when the Affordable Care Act was being debated. But starting Jan. 1, 2014, House and Senate members, and their staffs, can only obtain employer-subsidized, private coverage through the exchanges established under the ACA. The exchanges, or marketplaces, were designed for those who purchase their own insurance and small employers. For a full discussion of current health insurance options for members of Congress, see the 2015 Congressional Research Service paper Health Benefits for Members of Congress and Designated Congressional Staff. Over the years, weve seen false claims that Congress was somehow exempt from the health care law. But, in fact, the law places this additional requirement on Congress that doesnt pertain to other Americans with employer-provided health care.
You could also have gone to the link in the article, for "Health Benefits for Members of Congress and Designated Congressional Staff" https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R43194.pdf which clearly states:
The federal government, as an employer, offers health benefits to its employees, including Members of Congress and congressional staff. Prior to 2014, Members and staff had access to many of the same health benefits as other federal employees. For example, Members and staff were eligible to voluntarily enroll in employer-sponsored health insurance through the Federal Employees Health Benefits (FEHB) Program, and they could choose to participate in other health benefit programs, such as the Federal Flexible Spending Account Program (FSAFEDS).
Section 1312(d)(3)(D) of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (ACA; P.L. 111-148, as amended) generally specifies that the only health plans that the federal government may make available to Members and designated congressional staff (with respect to their service as Members or staff) are either created under the ACA or offered through an exchange established under the ACA.
Even if this weren't the case, members of Congress ALWAYS got their health insurance the way that most Americans do, through their employer--in this case, the Federal Employee's Benefit Program, a kind of insurance where you pick the plan and your employer kicks in a certain amount, while the rest is taken from your salary. Everybody who worked for the federal government, from secretaries and janitors to senators, had the same kind of employee insurance. It's the kind of insurance my family has through my husband's work at an institution of higher learning.
Lastly, try to avoid having such preconceived notions that you search only for evidence to corroborate it ... rather than the facts. The facts were right there; I think you just didn't want to process anything that didn't jibe with your opinion.
wishstar
(5,268 posts)See this amended beginning paragraph from the article:
" (Note: This item is no longer current. It was accurate at the time it was written in 2009, when the Affordable Care Act was being debated. But starting Jan. 1, 2014, House and Senate members, and their staffs, can only obtain employer-subsidized, private coverage through the exchanges established under the ACA. The exchanges, or marketplaces, were designed for those who purchase their own insurance and small employers. For a full discussion of current health insurance options for members of Congress, see the 2015 Congressional Research Service paper Health Benefits for Members of Congress and Designated Congressional Staff. Over the years, weve seen false claims that Congress was somehow exempt from the health care law. But, in fact, the law places this additional requirement on Congress that doesnt pertain to other Americans with employer-provided health care.)"
However, Congress does have a special ACA exchange set up just for them in D. C.
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)program for ITSELF if it chooses to. No one else on the exchanges has that option. Congress should have to sink or swim like everyone else who suffers from the repeal of Obamacare -- but you know it will make sure it doesn't.