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muriel_volestrangler

(101,146 posts)
Sat Jan 7, 2017, 07:06 AM Jan 2017

Suspect in Florida airport shooting 'lost his mind' after Iraq tour, family says

The suspect in the Fort Lauderdale airport shooting that claimed five lives was a mentally troubled national guard veteran who served a year in Iraq and was later discharged from military service “for unsatisfactory performance”, officials said on Friday.

Members of Esteban Santiago’s family told reporters the 26-year-old “lost his mind” after his tour of duty, and had recently received psychological treatment following a number of incidents. In one last summer, he turned up unexpectedly at an FBI office near his home in Anchorage, Alaska, and claimed to be hearing voices in his head telling him to join Isis.

According to Major Paul Dahlen, spokesman for the Puerto Rico National Guard, Santiago was deployed to Iraq in 2010 with the 130th engineer battalion. He later joined the Alaska national guard as an army reservist in November 2014 and was discharged in August 2016, Lt Col Candis Olmstead said, without giving full details.
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Family members said Santiago, who was born in New Jersey but moved to Puerto Rico with his parents as a two-year-old, and then moved to Alaska after his Iraq tour, had been hospitalized or received treatment for mental issues on several occasions .

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/06/fort-lauderdale-airport-shooting-who-is-suspect-esteban-santiago
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Suspect in Florida airport shooting 'lost his mind' after Iraq tour, family says (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Jan 2017 OP
But but but malaise Jan 2017 #1
And a miniature key chain tool kit with a 1"can opener is confiscated Guilded Lilly Jan 2017 #2
WTF Cryptoad Jan 2017 #7
Here's the scoop, Cryptoad... Guilded Lilly Jan 2017 #11
The gun was in his checked luggage. christx30 Jan 2017 #13
Time for my meme about mass shootings Feeling the Bern Jan 2017 #3
A Gun for every Idiot, an Idiot for evevy Gun,,,,, Cryptoad Jan 2017 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author bora13 Jan 2017 #4
Then why weren't they vigilant with him and keepnguns away from him? Roland99 Jan 2017 #5
because they live in New Jersey, and he's an adult who lived with a partner and child in Alaska muriel_volestrangler Jan 2017 #6
we're still experiencing the fallout from *'s illegal war, 16 years ecstatic Jan 2017 #9
He apparently went into an FBI office in Alaska and told them he was being controlled by the CIA inwiththenew Jan 2017 #10
Never should have had a gun. moondust Jan 2017 #12
Nah, the insanity defense won't work when you massacre people at an airport LittleBlue Jan 2017 #14

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
2. And a miniature key chain tool kit with a 1"can opener is confiscated
Sat Jan 7, 2017, 08:07 AM
Jan 2017

from my carry-on last month by the TSA.

How many flaming red flags does one need before freaking common sense kicks in????

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
11. Here's the scoop, Cryptoad...
Sat Jan 7, 2017, 07:07 PM
Jan 2017

I was reading several threads about this guy getting a gun through the flight on his bag and all the red flags about him that SHOULD have been addressed by TSA and made a comment on how incompetent and unbalanced the process for screening is.

Horror of horrors, my comment landed in the wrong thread about this guy.

That is WTF.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
13. The gun was in his checked luggage.
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 04:21 PM
Jan 2017

He got the bag out of baggage claim, went to the bathroom, got the gun out of the bag, and started firing upon leaving the bathroom. If he had it in his carry on, it wouldn't have gotten onto the plane.
If you had checked the can opener with your luggage, that wouldn't have been a problem. They just want to make sure the weapon and the person aren't in the passenger cabin at the same time.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
3. Time for my meme about mass shootings
Sat Jan 7, 2017, 08:11 AM
Jan 2017


Hooray guns. And don't tell me he was mentally disturbed. That's an excuse. No gun, no mass shooting.

Response to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
5. Then why weren't they vigilant with him and keepnguns away from him?
Sat Jan 7, 2017, 09:58 AM
Jan 2017

Just like Adam Lanza's mother knew her son had issues but kept guns easily accessible to him

muriel_volestrangler

(101,146 posts)
6. because they live in New Jersey, and he's an adult who lived with a partner and child in Alaska
Sat Jan 7, 2017, 10:10 AM
Jan 2017

(though he also had an address in Florida).

ecstatic

(32,566 posts)
9. we're still experiencing the fallout from *'s illegal war, 16 years
Sat Jan 7, 2017, 10:42 AM
Jan 2017

later. And now we have a new * presidency. Who knows the damage he'll inflict.

inwiththenew

(972 posts)
10. He apparently went into an FBI office in Alaska and told them he was being controlled by the CIA
Sat Jan 7, 2017, 10:47 AM
Jan 2017

and being forced to watch ISIS videos.

They called the police and he was taken for mental evaluation. This was back in November.

moondust

(19,917 posts)
12. Never should have had a gun.
Sat Jan 7, 2017, 07:28 PM
Jan 2017

"had been hospitalized or received treatment for mental issues on several occasions."

Some doctors used to routinely ask their patients with children if there were guns in the home and if so were they stored securely away from the children. Guns were simply treated as a public health issue similar to toxic chemicals requiring childproof lids, etc. I believe the loons at the NRA even fought to have that kind of questioning in a medical context banned out of paranoia that it would lead to an evil database of gun owners. Will be interesting to see if that played any part in this guy having a gun despite mental health issues.

Wayne? Wayne? Time to wash up.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
14. Nah, the insanity defense won't work when you massacre people at an airport
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 04:28 PM
Jan 2017

Fuck this scumbag murderer. Hang him high.

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