"Is Donald Trump A Traitor?"--DECEMBER 22, 2016

[FrankfurtCat]

Mind-boggling that the reaction was.....what reaction?

From CHAUNCEY DEVEGA'S SALON.COM ARTICLE:

During the 2016 presidential campaign, Republican nominee Donald Trump urged a foreign power, Russia, to interfere in the American election in order to undermine his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton. Russia complied. The American intelligence community, including the CIA and FBI, has reached a “strong consensus” that the Russians interfered with the presidential election in order to help Donald Trump win.

It has also been reported that Russian President Vladimir Putin personally directed this espionage operation. So serious was Russian interference in the American presidential election that the Obama administration warned Putin that it was tantamount to “armed conflict.”
The sum total of these facts leads to a very troubling conclusion.

President-elect Donald Trump is a traitor. As suggested by John Shattuck, a Harvard university professor, in the Boston Globe, Trump’s actions may approach the legal definition of treason as defined by U.S. federal law.

Members of the Republican Party who knew about Russia’s efforts to interfere with the presidential election and chose to suppress or block such information, for fear of hurting their candidate’s chances, are also traitors.

In light of Russia’s interference with the presidential election, Republicans and others who voted for and support Donald Trump are also traitors, at least to the degree that they do not now work against and denounce him.


http://www.salon.com/2016/12/22/is-donald-trump-a-traitor-his-path-to-the-white-house-suggests-a-pattern-of-profound-disloyalty/

[Angry Dragon]

1. yes

[ghostsinthemachine]

2. Unquestionably. NT

[shraby]

3. Without a doubt

edited to add:
He's also a cheat, and a scofflaw.

[tritsofme]

4. If you classify 60 million+ people as traitors, you have drained all meaning from the word.

It is just an insult like "stupid"

[FrankfurtCat]

8. Definition of Traitor:

trai·tor
ˈtrādər/
noun
a person who betrays a friend, country, principle, etc.
"they see me as a traitor, a sellout to the enemy"
synonyms: betrayer, backstabber, double-crosser, renegade, fifth columnist; More

[cab67]

19. while I agree Trump fits this definition of a traitor,

he probably doesn't fit the legal definition for purposes of prosecution. We would have to be at war with Russia for that to happen.

In this sense, there's a difference between being a traitor and being guilty of treason.

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

5. Abso-fucking-lutely !

[onenote]

6. Have you asked your member of Congress to introduce a declaration of war v. Russia?

Can't be a traitor unless you're actually taking up arms v. the US or giving aid and comfort to an enemy -- and an enemy, as defined in US law, is a person or entity engaged in hostilities v. the US that would be governed by the rules of war.

The Russians and probably Trump have almost certainly committed crimes. But that doesn't mean treason has been committed.

[FrankfurtCat]

7. How do you feel about sedition?

Or, maybe more correctly, do you think Trump could be rightfully accused of sedition?

[onenote]

10. Given the history of prosecutions for seditious conspiracy, probably not.

[cab67]

20. I think a lot of people are confusing "traitor" and "guilty of treason."

As with many crimes, there are different meanings depending on whether one is looking at the laws or a dictionary.

As far as I'm concerned, when the wrong house is foreclosed and items in the house are discarded, those responsible for the error are thieves, even if they are not guilty of robbery under the law. Same principle.

[onenote]

21. When you've had people claim you're a traitor because you opposed the Vietnam War

and counseled others how to avoid being drafted or went to Canada to avoid being drafted, the distinction you're drawing tends to lose its meaning.

[cab67]

22. understood

[Loge23]

9. The republican party are co-conspirators

But they have the power. This will not end well.

[procon]

11. The press must ask, "What did you know, and when did you know it?"

While Nixon did not plot the actual Watergate break-in, he did authorize the cover-up that would eventually end his shameful presidency. The Watergate hearings were nearly 40 years ago, and it must be remembered that U.S. Sen. Howard Baker (R-Tenn.) asked that now-famous question, “What did the President know and when did he know it?”

That same question needs to be asked of Donald J. Trump today.

[DLevine]

12. Yes. nt

[uponit7771]

13. Yes, I don't believe for a second this fuck didn't know anything about hacking after inviting a hack

[pbmus]

14. The reason why

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512675232

[FrankfurtCat]

17. I saw that earlier...awesome post!

[TeamPooka]

15. Hell yes!

[ElementaryPenguin]

16. Unquestionably.

[ffr]

18. If he isn't, he's certainly scaling a dangerous tightrope act.

And he's putting our lives in jeopardy.