A sincere request/question: What's with the hate-Rachel movement here?
Look, back when, back in the Keith/Rachel days, I reacted with my gut and alienated whomever by objecting to their *STYLE* of discourse - the interminable sentences/paragraphs/whatever - AND I didn't watch them for that reason. But I never disliked them. Always liked their heart.
For the past few months there have been these threads about how traitorous Rachel is. I don't buy that.
Now. I would appreciate an explanation for the HATE-Rachel posts.
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I have noticed all the same. I only know that I respect Rachel Maddow, a brilliant woman who is a gay woman who has consistently since she has been on Television, spoken truth to power and broken stories and explained things in ways that educates people about events politically. I am certain if I met Rachel personally and knew her that I would be good friends and have respect her. I do respect her. And I remember Greta Van susteren on CNN and liked her. I don't like Fox and I think of all the newscasters commentators at Fox, she was the only one I ever found had some cred, and I figured she was trapped in the money game. But when Rachel Maddow tells me that she respects Greta Carlson and that she is one of the most decent people she knows, I respect Rachel and believe her and will give Greta the chance to prove herself.
I am shocked to see the people on DU who are ready to boycott MSNBC and Rachel Maddow because of her statement of support for Greta. Really??? Seriously???? They will throw Rachel Maddow under the bus based on that? Where do they think they will get their "news" in the media if they on the basis of the simple support of an individual they don't like by amazing broadcasting journalist happens?
I think DU is definitely being trolled and the only thing we longtime DUers and passionate Americans who love our constitution and democracy and principles can do is just speak the truth from the heart and don't fall for that trap from those that are trying to disrupt and create "fake controversy ". MSNBC has Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid, Lawrence O'Donnell, Chris Hayes, and Ari Melber to name a few that are progressive and good journalists. If MSNBC were to start canning those people or we saw those people suddenly silenced as they perhaps face censorship by Comrade Trumpski who is demanding an investigations for MSNBC, that is when we should discuss perhaps fairly if MSNBC should be turned off. And perhaps some people on DU may want to consider the following about Megyn Kelly and Greta Van susteren perhaps after years of the money trap and contracts with an employer that has subjected them to a sexist and harassing environment, they finally are moving from the dark side as they see what is coming under a Trump Presidency and they can do better by going to an employer like MSNBC that gives openly gay women like Rachel Maddow a prime time hour nightly show.
Could never have imagined though that we would find ourselves here after all we saw in last 15 years... And what is ahead of us all...
I don't have much else. 
explain the HATE-Rachel posts (and there ARE those "on DU"
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Not because of her at all, but because I just couldn't face the TV news. I've been here, but that's only because I can control what I click on.
But anyway, tonight I watched her again for the first time because nobody else was around and I didn't want to be cooking dinner all alone, and I thought her presentation was a LOT tighter than it used to be.
But that's a sample size of 1. 
going to find out what, from your opening statement, but let's just keep helping one another here.
How's this for funny: Today Joy BEHAR said, "
DRUMPF) is so bad, I'm missing (Shrub)"!1
Thanks Joy! We need some humor.
...although it is true.
I look at it this way. Rachel is very, very smart and very well educated. She does historical context and often dives deeply into a topic. But according to some people here she apparently talks too much, as if being a commentator doesn't require talking.
I am an unequivocal Rachel Maddow fan. There is no cable TV where I live. And there is also no broadband internet here. But I can download Rachel Maddow's program as an audio podcast and it's only 10 MB, so my cellular 5 GB download limit can handle that and I can get my Rachel fix every night that MS/NBC posts it. (I wish they would do the same for Lawrence and a few others.)
I am here to support Rachel 100%.
...is still one of the better hosts on TV. The promos MSNBC runs with her praising Greta and looking like Kellyanne's BFF are awful. Rachel must have some reason other than being "friends" with these women (including the two other FOX exiles). Maybe Rachel gets money and/or some editorial content approval for these promos. People usually do not do them for nothing - even if you want to, there are union guidelines and crews all have to be paid. I'll be happy when these ads are over... and why not give Joy Reid a show with more editorial control? She's had a show before, I know, but now she is in a "hot" stage and you have to strike while the iron is hot.
...in the second half hour. All repeating and luring viewers through ad breaks... they "backload" the ad time and I can't make it to the end of the show. It's intolerable. The opening segment is mostly good, but the style includes much repetition - which I supposed is there for the sporadic viewer.
Is it wrong to have a crush on her as a 32 year old man? 
