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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 08:17 PM Jan 2017

Even if Pee-gate isnt true, Donald Trump is stuck with it.




Even if Pee-gate isn’t true, Donald Trump is stuck with it.You may have heard that some controversial documents were leaked last night by BuzzFeed, the juiciest of which alleges that Trump likes to get peed on. Or likes to pee on women. Something with piss.
The actual report, which is unconfirmed, states that Trump hired prostitutes in Russia to perform a “golden showers urination show” for him, which Russian authorities planned to use as “compromising material” to blackmail him. The details have been the subject of some amused debate on Twitter—was Trump actually showered upon? or did he just watch? is urine sterile?—but they don’t really matter. What matters is that the connection between Trump and kinky pee is now seared into our collective consciousness.

The scandal tracks closely with this famous “would you rather” conundrum: Would you rather have sex with a goat but have nobody know, or not and have everyone think you did? David Cameron is a real-life exemplar of this query. An unsubstantiated allegation was published last year alleging that he had stuck his nob in a pig’s gob. The chances that Trump or Cameron actually did these salacious acts are small, but that doesn’t change the fact that everyone can’t stop seeing and talking about it.

Trump did his best to discredit the report, signaling in a rare use of all-caps that this was a Drudge siren–level offense: “FAKE NEWS - A TOTAL POLITICAL WITCH HUNT!” Trump’s Twitter feed is fake news incarnate, but (and it pains me to say it) he was not wrong to label Pee-gate a kind of fake news. The paradox is that in the era of fake news, the term “fake news” has lost any real meaning, in no small part due to Trump. News is as partisan as anything else, a blunt weapon to be used against political opponents. And whether the story is true or not, Trump has to live with it.


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Even if Pee-gate isnt true, Donald Trump is stuck with it. (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 OP
Will there be a pee gate theme in the inaugural parade? dubyadiprecession Jan 2017 #1
Just like... HITLER! Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #2
Ugh... you saw him on twitter asking if this was Nazi Germany? Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #8
Exactly! Hitler's key to power in Germany was making it illegal... Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #12
The Richard Gere, Rod Stewart effect? Henry Krinkle Jan 2017 #3
GereGerbils. Stewart Blow Jobs. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #4
The Stewart rumor was a little more involved than that... Henry Krinkle Jan 2017 #5
Didn't it include stomach pumping? Poor guy to be subject of that rumor. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #6
John Oliver talked about it a bit on his show-- David Cameron, that is Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #10
who really doesn't totally buy that story??? Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #7
I keep thinking about this ProudLib72 Jan 2017 #9
It needs further investigation, it's potentially huge if true. Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #11

dubyadiprecession

(5,697 posts)
1. Will there be a pee gate theme in the inaugural parade?
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 08:31 PM
Jan 2017

perhaps a flash mob of men near the reviewing stand unzipping their flys to pee for trump.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
2. Just like... HITLER!
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 08:33 PM
Jan 2017
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/11165627/Adolf-Hitler-sex-life-Eva-Braun.html
Based on claims from Otto Strasser, one of Hitler’s opponents in the Party, it alleged that the dictator forced his niece Geli to urinate and defecate on him.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
12. Exactly! Hitler's key to power in Germany was making it illegal...
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 08:54 PM
Jan 2017

to criticize him or the Nazis! (No freedom of the press or freedom of speech.)

Right-wing gun nuts like to pretend it came from disarming the German citizenry. BS! What was an armed German supposed to do if he openly criticized Hitler? Take on the armed German police and soldiers who were expected to enforce that speech law? Good luck with that!

 

Henry Krinkle

(208 posts)
3. The Richard Gere, Rod Stewart effect?
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 08:34 PM
Jan 2017

I never even heard of the David Cameron thing.

As far as Trump is concerned, the comics and late night talk show hosts might run with it for a bit,
but the joke only really works if the allegation is true.

If it does turn out to be true (which I'm really doubtful of), then even the most merciful god can't save him
from the ridicule, stigma and unrelenting mockery associated with the event.

 

Henry Krinkle

(208 posts)
5. The Stewart rumor was a little more involved than that...
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 08:43 PM
Jan 2017


I'm guessing that Gere and Stewart were laughing about it, and/or dismissed it long ago.

Trump, not so much if this allegation sticks in the public's minds.
 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
10. John Oliver talked about it a bit on his show-- David Cameron, that is
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 08:49 PM
Jan 2017

what is the Rod Stewart thing-- that he sucked off a whole bunch of guys and got sick? That's what I had heard.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
9. I keep thinking about this
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 08:48 PM
Jan 2017

Let's just say the FSB informant made up the story and it got passed along. Should we be focused on it? Is it a distraction from the reality that tRump coordinated with Putin to hack the DNC?

At the same time, I find the story so compelling that I can't discredit it and move on. Is it possible? Yes! Is it plausible? Knowing how tRump thinks and behaves, definitely. There was a means and a motive. You have to ask yourself who could have made this up. I keep coming back to the saying "Truth is stranger than fiction".

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
11. It needs further investigation, it's potentially huge if true.
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 08:50 PM
Jan 2017

The intel docs actually said Trump had a lot more trouble -- obvious corruption-- in China. FWIW.

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