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I don't know about you, but I'm beginning to feel like the tide is starting to turn against Trump (and he is not even in Office yet). I think it is the CNN thing where is dressed down a CNN reporter in public. In addition, in the same press conference he used the term Nazi when referring to the leaks....etc. etc.
Now his team is denying the fact that he (Trump) was briefed on the two page summary. Clearly a lie that everyone can see.
It isn't just these few items. Things are starting to add up and people are beginning to realize what kind of person they have put into office.
I just feel like the positive mood towards Trump is starting to fade. Am I the only one?
-P
blue cat
(2,415 posts)I'd really like to be where you are at, but I'm just angry and negative about the whole situation.
SylviaD
(721 posts)Nothing.
Dustlawyer
(10,494 posts)already too high prescriptions. She asked the question, "Are we the only one's who care" after watching the news of Trump running over the press. I told her to go to Austin to the rally on the 15th and be around what I am sure will be thousands of people who believe like she does. My kids will be with her to look out for her. If I didn't have to work I would be with her as well.
I think being around so many who are serious enough to stand up and fight against this madness and corruption will do her a world of good.
It may be the tonic we all need to get through the next 4 years! Please go to a Rally on the 15th and post some pictures, talk to people there and get to know some. Brainstorm ideas on how to fight back. Synergy can happen, at the very least it may improve your outlook!
Hey admin, can you set up a photo contest for the best Rally pics?
George II
(67,782 posts)...they can't take it away from her.
I pity those a lot younger than 80 years old - probably those 55 or younger.
Dustlawyer
(10,494 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)...my savings would be depleted by the lack of Social Security and Medicare (I'm 68) I slowly got over it and realized that anything the idiots will do would not, selfishly, affect me. As I researched it, I realized that any repeal would be phased in over a number of years. Not only that, but hopefully the 20+ million who are on the ACA won't be affected to a great extent, either.
I seriously think that when it really gets down to it, even the idiotic republicans will look at what they're going to do and temper it with reality and sensibility. After all, they don't want to screw with their constituency who may vote them out of office.
politicat
(9,808 posts)She's got fragile bones, and stopped driving a few years ago. My parent will drive her when she wants to go somewhere (I live 1000 miles away) but granny doesn't like to ask for rides. But she called her local Dem office and Planned Parenthood and talked to their volunteer coordinators to find something she could do from home. Someone brings her a call sheet every day or every other day, and granny makes calls.
It's worth your mother making the inquiry. It really does keep my granny's spirits and her fighting constitution on the go.
skylucy
(3,737 posts)roamer65
(36,744 posts)He's up against a wall with Pootie and the IC is nearing impeachment level charges.
Generic Brad
(14,272 posts)Who's going to impeach him? Republicans who can now hold this over his head so they can enact their national death wish? They will only move to impeach if he falls out of line with what the Koch suckers want.
rzemanfl
(29,554 posts)Generic Brad
(14,272 posts)I set it up and you came in for the spike.
rzemanfl
(29,554 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Is there significant evidence of this?
it certainly isn't the so-called 'media.'
That is just a brief change in wind direction..."Wet Finger. Stick in air. See where the gold is coming from. Aim that way."
nolabear
(41,932 posts)Those chickens are coming home and roosting all over his supporters, the shocked press, and the GOP.
I'm looking toward the day Kellyanne cuts her losses and tries to pretend she never met the guy.
Zambero
(8,962 posts)Around 30% will support him no matter what. On the other hand, he does not have much further to drop in order to reach that point.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)rzemanfl
(29,554 posts)Snarkoleptic
(5,996 posts)Add to that the fact that some of his mouth-breathers are beginning to realize they've been duped, and you've got trouble.
RKP5637
(67,086 posts)their vote. There is just no way this guy can climb out of this ... I think.
Eventually, all those people who believed him when he said he'd bring their jobs & their way of life back will realize that they were sold down the river. That's when they'll turn on him.
Talk Is Cheap
(389 posts)We are screwed no matter what.
nini
(16,672 posts)And God knows I've got no love for Pence. He might be as bad for domestic issues but foreign stuff? - I think he won't be as dangerous.
Talk Is Cheap
(389 posts)We are screwn no matter what republican occupies the Presidency...
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)As TOTALLY loathsome as I find Pence, he's an improvement over the snake venom salesman!
Blanks
(4,835 posts)If Trump's campaign communicated with the Russians, Pence will be investigated too.
There are quite a lot of scandals, but now that Trump has acknowledged that the Russians hacked the election, proof will surface that they were communicating and that will make them all look bad.
Especially since they've been hiding from answering the question.
MissKat
(218 posts)Bet that would make a lot of Republicans happy as pigs at a trough.
HurricaneWarning
(220 posts)and he's spinning this like crazy. I had to quickly jump back to Rachel. We will get no help from Republicans to further any investigation.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)Pence will pick a new VP, congress will approve his selection, then when Pence resigns, that person will become president. That's how Ford became president.
It could be Ryan, but I doubt it. Probably a senator. It'll be interesting.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Now, I just want Trump gone. And I think there are plenty of people both sides of the aisle that would concur.
Stonepounder
(4,033 posts)But, at least he a) wouldn't be a puppet for a foreign power, b) understands how Government works, and c) has some idea of what he knows and what he doesn't know and would bring in people who could help him with what he doesn't know (I hope).
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)But Pence is not a fascist. Trump and Putin are.
Stonepounder
(4,033 posts)he wouldn't try and be a dictator and he isn't a Russian pawn.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)paleotn
(17,881 posts)President Ryan? And I'm not talking about a Tom Clancy novel. I think I'm gonna be sick....
But then again, by that time the brand may be so f'd up Paul Ryan can't make a move without the general populace going ape shit. Kind of like just after Tricky's resignation in '74. Republicans were afraid to be seen in public, much less make a nuisance of themselves. Who knows how all this will end up? Reminds me of an old Chinese curse....may you live in interesting times.
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)to fight an opponent who stands in one place and throws punches.
Also, Pence lacks DT's Svengali like skills, and his national fan club.
doc03
(35,295 posts)pulled his pants down and kissed his ass today.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)Jacob Boehme
(789 posts)TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)go down with the ship regarding the that. I also think a good number of Repub's can't stand him and would love to see him gone based on that fact alone.
paleotn
(17,881 posts)Many of them hate Trumpkin just as much as we Dems. After the primary fracas, I don't think he's got a lot of friends even in his own party.
safeinOhio
(32,641 posts)Bat man movie. Trump is a perfect BM movie villain, like the evil Joker.
Waiting for the Bat Mobil to show up and Bat M an and Robin. To jump out and save us.
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)groan and can no longer deny the horrific slow motion train wreck that we've all been a part of. When we start hearing that..that is going to be the real wind of change....and I do believe that is coming...for cripes sake it has to.
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)... he's toast and then the Russians can hack another election and dems lose more seats.
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)champion it....the moderates, the mainstreams.. ..I really believe they are going to get sick of this crap and peel away.
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)... in for a long haul on this one.
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)CONSTANT DRAMA. I do feel it will take awhile for the admitting to happen...but happen it will. That is my hope.
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)easttexaslefty
(1,554 posts)The few remaining r friends I have left on fb are changing their tune.
Too little too late but still..
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)And I really enjoyed reading it. It showed the trump humpers flip flopping. I mean within days! They went from loving trump to, "I can't believe he has gone back on his word already" posts.
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)... for any president elect in US history from the beginning.
Now its 37%
Sane Americans do NOT want this bastard as their president
Johnny2X2X
(18,969 posts)This horror show isn't even past the credits, it's barely even started. And this President is a dictator at heart and will have complete control over the media in one way or another by 2018. By the end of his first term he'll have the media reporting he played a round of golf and shot a hole in one on every hole to shoot an 18, and about 60% of the public will believe it.
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)... we're fucked by 2018 comes.
I don't believe for a split second that they got access to the electoral boards and did NOTHING with that data...
That's just common sense
BumRushDaShow
(128,442 posts)Yes.
When I just read that RT literally took over a CSPAN feed today, we are fucked.
More - https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/business/media/cspan-russia-today.html?_r=0
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)an orange one at that. Why anyone would have voted for him is beyond my understanding. I know why it was and that was the relentless lies about Hillary that we heard for the last 30 plus years worked on so many otherwise pretty good people
Hillary was not, is NOT, a bad person and would have been head and shoulders above tRump or any of the other clown car occupants as President.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)CanonRay
(14,084 posts)It's too late
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)saying "I just cant vote for her"
Well , this is the result.
ananda
(28,834 posts)I do see attempts to normalize him and his
perverted, criminal, treasonous behavior.
That's because people whose jobs are dependent
on the corporate oligarchy must do so, go along
to get along ... they have literally sold their souls.
But it's pretty clear that there is no positive mood.
nini
(16,672 posts)Then Trump will bury himself as you describe since he reacts like a spoiled child and it's showing big time now.
Atman
(31,464 posts)This is just the beginning of the end.
Pholus
(4,062 posts)37% of the US population are still dangerously unhinged people who shouldn't even be trusted to walk with a set of scissors....
http://www.salon.com/2017/01/11/donald-trump-isnt-going-to-admit-just-how-unpopular-he-is/
izzybella
(236 posts)I live in a red state, and I honestly have only found one person who voted for him. (or at least admits to it) Literally every person I've spoken to, other than my 80+ year old relatives who would vote for a lamp over a Democrat, says they think he is a huge embarrassment and disaster to our country. How did this happen?
kimbutgar
(21,055 posts)I was subsitute teaching a 2nd grade class today ( I also had the same class yesterday) the majority of the kids are of Asian heritage. A couple of them kept bringing up thump and I said to them in 8 days he is going to be our president. Most of them booed and made faces, only one boy said Yey! But throughout the day they wanted to talk about it and I kept constantly changing the subject because I absolutely despite thump but wanted to remain professional. 7 and 8 years olds are paying attention. At that age I never paid attention to politics! I sensed a lot of stress coming from them hearing their parents angst of the upcoming destruction of the USA.
WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)and I don't think that our concerns will be squat to the Dumpsters.
marlakay
(11,425 posts)Now that their side won they can get rid of him and control, control, control.
lastone
(588 posts)what make you think dissension will be allowed from our new overlord?
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)"dissenting voices aren't even allowed on DU anymore"
Oh?
GoCubsGo
(32,074 posts)I know his approval rating is dismal, which is encouraging. And, occasionally, I see some of the press calling out his and the GOP's bullshit. Meredith Viera actually called out Rancid Priebus yesterday for not answering the question that was asked of him. Granted, she didin't further hold his feet to the fire when he continued to deflect, but it's more than I have seen from these people in years, when it comes to GOP mouthpieces and their obfuscation. It's a start.
RKP5637
(67,086 posts)Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)LandrosT
(50 posts)But I'm still not holding my breath. After all, Trump still got elected, despite all of his scandals.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)do NOT let them frame the fucking narrative.
lancelyons
(988 posts)Not only that but GOP is realizing that Obamacare might not be as bad as they say.
The nice thing about health care is either we get some great health care improvements and sadly GOP looks good
Or the GOP screws it up and looks bad (Good thing) while bringing bad stuff in healthcare.
Ccarmona
(1,180 posts)She just Has called Trump a liar again. This time about Trumps tweet about his conversation with James Trapper. And we have the proof.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)I really don't think it's turned yet. The millions who voted for him are still in honeymoon mode and loved him telling off CNN. They like him being off-script.
And meantime, he's getting his henchmen in place, thereby Trumpicizing the Executive Branch and the DOD and the DOJ and the Supreme Court.
It won't matter that he looks like a fool or is revealed as corrupt. He'll sit back and tweet and even be impeached or resign in a temper tantrum --but Pence and Sessions and Chow and Mad Dog and the rest will run things.
world wide wally
(21,738 posts)He starts a fucking war.
Brace yourselves for worse than you even thought.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Now, what I need to do (and I hope a lotta other ppl are also doing) is get hopeful and active.
"Active" is my big personal challenge so it would be good for me to push forward.
MrModerate
(9,753 posts)I've disliked the guy for years, and recently have begun despising him. I can't decline much further.
bucolic_frolic
(43,044 posts)Trump is a deliberately confusing two-bit distraction
MatthewStLouis
(904 posts)Trump people want us to shut up and act like "adults" by accepting him as President. And after 8 years of BS, fat chance I am going to sing Kumbaya over Trump. He acts like a fascist dictator more everyday, and Trumpers keep looking the other way.
I think the change in atmosphere is a thickening smog of lies and oppression.
forgotmylogin
(7,520 posts)This period might be like a dark valley when a healing body purges toxins, feeling the effect of all of them at once before ultimately flushing them away.
The Democrats set a high bar with probably the greatest President of the 21st Century. Following up with Trump and letting America see how Republicans do it directly after in such stark relief to Obama's leadership and grace is the ultimate test. They want it to be us vs them? This may be the exact scenario it takes for people to realize the difference between progressivism and conservativism.
As Cher once said, "Follow this, you bitches."
ElkeH
(105 posts)I know several Trump supporters and they honestly believe all the latest push back against him is a sign that his tactics are working, that we progressives are lashing out of fear and desperation.
We still have not seen the worst. This will be a totally authoritarian regime that will try to bury anyone and everyone who opposes it. The real power comes not from Trump himself but from his legion of hateful minions.