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bigtree

(85,984 posts)
1. I think that would be very possible
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 11:48 PM
Jan 2017

...if it was purely offensive and unilateral, not in response to a nuclear attack on the U.S. or our allies.

Probably not a 'coup,' but an insurrection.

marybourg

(12,606 posts)
6. In the run-up to it, Traitor Trump
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 11:54 PM
Jan 2017

will have told a hundred lies to convince his true believers that it's justified and necessary

hatrack

(59,583 posts)
2. If the two-man rule is still in place, then a full-on coup might not be necessary . . . .
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 11:50 PM
Jan 2017

If the military gets the order, but disobeys, or if the Cabinet Secretary or other Senate-confirmed official fails to confirm, then it's pretty much all over anyway.

No way that a CIC could continue once the military or cabinet secretaries refuse his orders for military action.

still_one

(92,106 posts)
9. The two-man rule wouldn't work with trump. All he would do is fire the person who disagrees with
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 11:59 PM
Jan 2017

him and replace him with someone who would agree.

During the Cuban Missile Crisis the opposite scenario was very real, some elements in the military wanted a first strike.

I really think the use of nuclear weapons should involve Congress, and not exclusively the President

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
3. I have no doubt of it.
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 11:50 PM
Jan 2017

It wouldn't be a coup d'etat. It would be the military following their oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution...from all enemies...foreign and DOMESTIC.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
4. I doubt it. The personnel involved are trained to obey the orders within MINUTES.
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 11:53 PM
Jan 2017

The Secretary of Defense is supposed to be a safeguard by confirming the codes, but that role will likely be filled by Trump's nominee, "Mad Dog" Mattis. The order from the President is supposed to be followed if the Secretary of Defense is unavailable too.

What a dangerous set-up!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_football

librechik

(30,674 posts)
12. Trump likes surprise attacks--we wouldn't get any warning--but who is the enemy? Not Russia
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 12:08 AM
Jan 2017

cuz Russia just won its war against the US without firing a shot

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
14. For now. I'm not so sure it will remain that way given Trump's history.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 01:14 AM
Jan 2017

He brags about his petty vindictiveness, and he doesn't seem to remain loyal to anyone.

Trump's "old friend" and mentor, Roy Cohn?
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all

Cohn, who in the fifties assisted Senator Joseph McCarthy in his vicious crusade against Communism, was closeted. He felt abandoned by Trump when he became fatally ill from AIDS, and said, “Donald pisses ice water.” Schwartz says of Trump, “He’d like people when they were helpful, and turn on them when they weren’t. It wasn’t personal. He’s a transactional man—it was all about what you could do for him.”



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