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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 10:20 AM Jan 2017

Penthouse receives three claims for its $1 million offer RE: Trump golden shower tapes

Penthouse may have proof of Trump’s ‘golden shower’ tryst at Moscow hotel

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/penthouse-may-have-proof-of-trumps-golden-shower-tryst-at-moscow-hotel/



Adult magazine Penthouse has received three claims for its $1 million offer to anyone who could provide real tapes of President-elect Donald Trump’s alleged and unproven sexual escapades at the Ritz-Carlton in Moscow, the publication’s editor exclusively revealed to International Business Times Thursday.

Penthouse editor Raphie Aronowitz said the magazine isn’t conducting a “witch hunt,” but wants to prove whether the allegations against Trump are true. Aronowitz said the lucrative offer falls in line with the magazine’s well-established brand, though to his knowledge Penthouse has never made such an exorbitant offer before.

“If the story is real, which we don’t know if it is or not, it really kind of hits at the intersection between politics, scandal and sex, which as a brand both historically and currently is our sweet spot,” Aronowitz said in a phone interview.

“For us, this was the type of story that we wanted to jump all over. But at the same time there’s been so much floating around - as far as fake news stories – there have been so many people who have just been taking shots at President-elect Donald Trump because he’s an easy target, and we as a brand and as an informational source, we didn’t want to jump on the bandwagon,” Aronowitz said. “We wanted to make sure this story could be verified, that the murmurings of their being actual video documentation that corroborates the allegations, do exist. For us, this was a very real ask, which is just ‘Give us some facts, and let us share the real story with our readers and with the public.’”
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Penthouse receives three claims for its $1 million offer RE: Trump golden shower tapes (Original Post) Miles Archer Jan 2017 OP
Fingers crossed! Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #1
Is that Golden Butter on your popcorn? Coventina Jan 2017 #3
Lol. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #8
Golden! Thanks, Penthouse wordpix Jan 2017 #52
If and when the video surfaces... Aviation Pro Jan 2017 #2
Tape actually came out and he was standing believe it or not.... snooper2 Jan 2017 #5
ROFL DK504 Jan 2017 #24
No wonder he leans on chairs.... Historic NY Jan 2017 #26
To be fair - the video purports to have them doing this on the bed while he watched. ehrnst Jan 2017 #6
We'll see.... Aviation Pro Jan 2017 #9
So . . . if he's a "germophobe" as claimed, MojoWrkn Jan 2017 #22
welcome to DU!!! Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #45
True statement? So I guess he doesn't really grab pussy huh? lunatica Jan 2017 #42
He is actually a germophobe- grabbing a woman who is clothed, yes I think so. ehrnst Jan 2017 #47
Your logic falls way short lunatica Jan 2017 #51
Nope- whether on an airplane or in a night club he's been accused of going up and under the skirt bettyellen Jan 2017 #57
Um, it's clear you're excited about this.. whathehell Jan 2017 #15
If there is a video of him watching women pee he will be reduced to a laughingstock. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #19
Keyboard warning for crying out loud angrychair Jan 2017 #16
I didn't know they offered a $Million Bucks for it... Cha Jan 2017 #4
Larry Flynt did too n/t TexasBushwhacker Jan 2017 #43
I guess not all rich political donors are shameful... when a gift is offered, we should take it. ehrnst Jan 2017 #49
These things never pan out. n/t demmiblue Jan 2017 #7
True. Miles Archer Jan 2017 #10
It's a Richard Gere gerbil story at the moment. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2017 #11
Not necessarily true angrychair Jan 2017 #20
Yep. Remember that well. maddiemom Jan 2017 #53
This could be amusing Gothmog Jan 2017 #12
I HATE it when they do this. Baitball Blogger Jan 2017 #13
this! Blaukraut Jan 2017 #17
Trumpy's narcissism and his penchant for revenge and sexual predation... Eyeball_Kid Jan 2017 #14
True, and frankly, nobody in the world doubts he capable of this shit... Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #25
i dont think there is video from the Ritz GusBob Jan 2017 #18
That is the thing about sex scandals they take on a life of their own. gordianot Jan 2017 #21
Cough it up Penthouse flamingdem Jan 2017 #23
It's so adorable how people think this would matter even if it came out. vi5 Jan 2017 #27
It will matter, just not to his moranic ideological constituency Major Nikon Jan 2017 #28
It's not the sexual proclivities of racist bigot that will bring him down... RiverStone Jan 2017 #30
big difference, however NewJeffCT Jan 2017 #40
Nope. All would be forgiven. vi5 Jan 2017 #58
Very, very, big difference sammythecat Jan 2017 #59
Christian Conservatives boycott Penthouse. Sales plummet. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #29
Lol! tavernier Jan 2017 #35
Maybe they can use their Starbucks model & have the vendor yell "Trump" when he gives them theircopy MrPurple Jan 2017 #41
What is wrong with his facial skin pigment? ffr Jan 2017 #31
Hi true soul (or lack thereof) is beginning to show through lunatica Jan 2017 #50
There is only one reason the tape matters Phoenix61 Jan 2017 #32
absolutely hurple Jan 2017 #36
can't say it's all lies if there is proof even one thing in it is true. HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #54
It won't matter CanonRay Jan 2017 #33
Oh please tell me Alec Baldwin is on SNL this week...! (N/M) Grins Jan 2017 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Jan 2017 #39
SNL can do a lot with this story so hope I won't fall asleep beforehand wordpix Jan 2017 #55
I was hoping they would come through. Too bad they don't have Franklin Ilsa Jan 2017 #37
It doesn't really matter if it's true or not vlyons Jan 2017 #38
I agree. Plus the whole story of Russian blackmail is incredibly damaging Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #48
Penthouse could just be getting some free press MrPurple Jan 2017 #44
Yes, this type of promotion is very valuable, whether they have the tape or not. cbdo2007 Jan 2017 #61
let's hear it for the free market! Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #46
while you're at it, Penthouse, do a Larry Flynt wordpix Jan 2017 #56
Does anyone believe that there ISN'T kinky dirt on Trump? WomanWhoRoars Jan 2017 #60
I believe it's quite possible lunatica Jan 2017 #62
I would be surprised if this wasn't legitimate. Vinca Jan 2017 #63
WARNING! - It will be very easy for Putin's henchmen to easily discredit EVERYTHING ThoughtCriminal Jan 2017 #64

Aviation Pro

(12,053 posts)
2. If and when the video surfaces...
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 10:37 AM
Jan 2017

...it will be epic beyond all description: golden boy supine on his back; fat, fucking belly quivering like Jello as he furiously tries to get a rise out of his tiny, flaccid dick; and two Rossiyskiye shlyukhami legs spread wide spraying all over him.

Just remember what has been seen cannot be unseen.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
5. Tape actually came out and he was standing believe it or not....
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 10:47 AM
Jan 2017

Leaked Footage of Donald Trump's Golden Shower Show

DK504

(3,847 posts)
24. ROFL
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 11:50 AM
Jan 2017

A full minute of peeing. LOL. Lil' Donny Pee-Pee better look out he'll be swinning in the pee, with the fishes.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
6. To be fair - the video purports to have them doing this on the bed while he watched.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 10:47 AM
Jan 2017

I think that's more likely - his admission to being a germophobe is one of the few true statements he made at the presser.

MojoWrkn

(139 posts)
22. So . . . if he's a "germophobe" as claimed,
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 11:46 AM
Jan 2017

did he put on rubber gloves before grabbing women by their puzzies??

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
47. He is actually a germophobe- grabbing a woman who is clothed, yes I think so.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 01:17 PM
Jan 2017

Remember - he won't eat any food from his hands - fork and knife for pizza, remember?

A self-confessed germaphobe, Trump doesn’t even like to push a ground floor elevator button because it’s been tapped by so many people....This does not sit well with the masses, let alone the PTA crowd. Trump especially avoids shaking hands with teachers, since they are likely to be have been “in touch” with too many germy kids.

It's no wonder that he finds it disgusting to even contemplate someone's use of the bathroom. I can only imagine what Trump thinks of having to use public facilities himself—assuming he ever does. Maybe he always holds it in until he can make it back to the gold-plated lav on his plane.


http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2015/12/donald-trump-germaphobe
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
57. Nope- whether on an airplane or in a night club he's been accused of going up and under the skirt
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 01:30 PM
Jan 2017

And directly touching women in the genitals.
Be careful- he's just manipulated you into minimizing what he admittedly does, and you're muddying the waters for him.

whathehell

(28,969 posts)
15. Um, it's clear you're excited about this..
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 11:18 AM
Jan 2017

but you might want to recsll that the goal of all this is to keep
Trump out of the White House, not to provide graphic sexual fantasies...Just sayin'

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,705 posts)
19. If there is a video of him watching women pee he will be reduced to a laughingstock.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 11:23 AM
Jan 2017

Drumpf thrives on being hated. He can not stand being laughed at.

angrychair

(8,593 posts)
16. Keyboard warning for crying out loud
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 11:20 AM
Jan 2017

Well in my case phone and public space warning

I spit coffee all over my table as I laughed like a drunk idiot

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
49. I guess not all rich political donors are shameful... when a gift is offered, we should take it.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 01:19 PM
Jan 2017

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
10. True.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 10:54 AM
Jan 2017

However, Trump has too deal with the fact that his "alleged" proclivity for water sports is being discussed daily, and that the hashtag #GoldenShowers is trending on Facebook, so if it pushes him in the direction of making a mistake he can't fix, I'll take that as a consolation prize.

Although, I shudder to think about what a mistake he can't fix might look like.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,083 posts)
11. It's a Richard Gere gerbil story at the moment.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 10:59 AM
Jan 2017

Which, by the way, is decades old and predates popular use of the internet.

angrychair

(8,593 posts)
20. Not necessarily true
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 11:26 AM
Jan 2017

Larry Flynt (Hustler magazine) did a "$1 million for information" thing about republicans in general during Bill Clinton's impeachment hearings and trust me a lot of republicans were brought down in the process.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
53. Yep. Remember that well.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 01:24 PM
Jan 2017

Good old Larry Flynt. In the early years of Hustler, I'd never have believed how much I'd come to appreciate him. The Woody Harrelson film (The People VS Larry Flynt) came out in the Nineties and is pretty enjoyable.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,410 posts)
14. Trumpy's narcissism and his penchant for revenge and sexual predation...
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 11:15 AM
Jan 2017

makes the story consistent with the range of behavior we'd normally expect from him.

I'd go with about a 65-75% chance that most of the dossier addendum is accurate, including Trumpy's co-operation with Russia through regular contacts DURING the campaign.

Wounded Bear

(58,440 posts)
25. True, and frankly, nobody in the world doubts he capable of this shit...
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 11:50 AM
Jan 2017

but the salacious shit is the least important part of it. Hell, there's already pics of the 1st Lady-elect naked out there.

It's the Russian ties that I want to see. Hell, I'm not even that interested in the campaign issues, though they are important. Most important to me is: How much does he owe the Russian interests in monetary terms? How deep is his debt to them? In the final analysis, I see no loyalties in Trump beyond filling his own pockets and polishing his own image.

The rest is just distraction.

gordianot

(15,226 posts)
21. That is the thing about sex scandals they take on a life of their own.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 11:43 AM
Jan 2017

Sorry for using the word "sex" in any reference to Trump perversions.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
27. It's so adorable how people think this would matter even if it came out.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 12:06 PM
Jan 2017

Are people still really that naive? Have they not watched what has happened in this country over the past 20 years?

People elected this buffoon despite having audio tapes of him admitting that he likes to commit sexual assault.

People elected him despite having been married 3 times and an admitted adulterer.

People elected him despite multiple bankruptcies and failed business ventures.

People elected him despite (because of) racism, sexism, anti-semitism.

Republicans can do whatever they want and spin it and their idiot base will still forgive and forget and find some way to blame or deflect to something liberals did or said.

Keep the faith though. I guess someone has to.

Major Nikon

(36,814 posts)
28. It will matter, just not to his moranic ideological constituency
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 12:12 PM
Jan 2017

The biggest problem Trump has is he has already created enemies on both sides of the isle, so his impeachment will remain a distinct possibility throughout his presiduncy.

RiverStone

(7,228 posts)
30. It's not the sexual proclivities of racist bigot that will bring him down...
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 12:17 PM
Jan 2017

But being a serial liar, and colluding with an enemy of the state.

NewJeffCT

(56,827 posts)
40. big difference, however
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 12:45 PM
Jan 2017

Trump was able to apologize and write off the "grab em by the pussy" comment as locker room talk and not real. Now, if there was an actual video tape of having hookers piss on Obama's bed, it is a lot different. (Just like if there is an actual video tape of him grabbing a woman's crotch, it would be there for all to see...)



 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
58. Nope. All would be forgiven.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 01:42 PM
Jan 2017

"Fake news!! Liberal witch hunt!! I made some mistakes!!! Bill Clinton!!'

Take your pick or combine multiple. Any of them would work.

sammythecat

(3,568 posts)
59. Very, very, big difference
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 01:43 PM
Jan 2017

If there is a video of Donald Trump + hookers + golden showers, the consequence would be enormous. This would define him. As someone above pointed out, he would become a laughingstock, a joke, and those that weren't laughing would be appalled. I think he'd become isolated and completely ineffective. I really don't see how he could overcome something like this.

Phoenix61

(16,952 posts)
32. There is only one reason the tape matters
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 12:24 PM
Jan 2017

and it has nothing to do with Trump's sexual proclivities. It matters because it gives incredible credence to the entire report. He can't say it's all lies if there is proof even one thing in it is true.

hurple

(1,304 posts)
36. absolutely
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 12:35 PM
Jan 2017

This is correct.

We shouldn't care what he does in private, or what he enjoys sexually. It really means nothing in the context of how good or bad he will be at the job of being president. However, the fact that it annoys him when we make fun of it, and proves the allegations, is the reason this is important.

And, it's funny.

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
54. can't say it's all lies if there is proof even one thing in it is true.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 01:24 PM
Jan 2017

That certainly is an interesting and literal take. Well done.

CanonRay

(14,036 posts)
33. It won't matter
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 12:29 PM
Jan 2017

they could run that tape on every network 24/7 and nobody will do shit except swear the bastard in. I guess I've given up hope. We're major league fucked.

Response to Grins (Reply #34)

Ilsa

(61,675 posts)
37. I was hoping they would come through. Too bad they don't have Franklin
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 12:39 PM
Jan 2017

Graham on a similar tape.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I think there's a big difference between sex with consenting adults (even "kinky" sex) and the activities trump was involved in. The golden showers stuff might indicate arrested development as well as his desire to humiliate women. The rape stories, more than one now, reflect his extremely violent urges.

This guy is sick sick sick.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
38. It doesn't really matter if it's true or not
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 12:41 PM
Jan 2017

The damage to his reputation (such as it is) is done. Just like the stories about Hillary running a child porn operation didn't have to be true to be hurtful. The story about Hillary had no previous disclosure of such a proven accusation. Everyone knows that Hillary has spent her life trying to help children and families. So there's no way I would ever believe such garbage about her.

With Trump however, we have the pussy-grab tape. So it takes little imagination or gullibility to believe that a story about him watching and/or participating in a golden showers show COULD be true. Plus we have a lot of women coming forward and accusing him of sexual assault. I for one believe that it COULD be true, because he is a thoroughly depraved criminal and liar.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
48. I agree. Plus the whole story of Russian blackmail is incredibly damaging
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 01:18 PM
Jan 2017

and will cast suspicion on everything he does

MrPurple

(985 posts)
44. Penthouse could just be getting some free press
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 01:13 PM
Jan 2017

It would be epic if graphic tapes come out, but also a shame that they didn't come out before the election, because we're in for serious problems now, either way.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
61. Yes, this type of promotion is very valuable, whether they have the tape or not.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:43 PM
Jan 2017

I'm not in advertising, but I did see one time a breakdown of how much, dollar wise, "free press" was worth and it was significant. God I wish I could remember what it was specifically...I'm in the Midwest in a mid sized city, and it was something local, like having to do with our football team I think...and them taking toys to the children's hospital or something. They added up how much time the story got on local news over a month or something, and then added up how much that would have been worth if they had paid for that as advertising and it was greater than 6 figures.

WomanWhoRoars

(175 posts)
60. Does anyone believe that there ISN'T kinky dirt on Trump?
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 01:44 PM
Jan 2017

Call it a gut feeling - call it instinct - call it whatever you like -- I know there's dirt on Trump and Russia has it. The money that Penthouse is offering? I'm thinking it's worth more than a million and Russia knows this ( or whoever is holding the goods ). It will come out. I've felt all along that Melania would have divorced Trump within the year - then he does the impossible and wins the election. Now she's stuck. Solution? Stay in NY and only fly into DC when she needs to.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
62. I believe it's quite possible
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:02 PM
Jan 2017

He's probably a pervert in many ways because he's never been forced to behave himself. It's obvious he has a gigantic ego and no self discipline.

Like he says he can do anything he wants to women, including walking in on them in the dressing room because he's rich.

Vinca

(50,170 posts)
63. I would be surprised if this wasn't legitimate.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:18 PM
Jan 2017

The person who compiled it is well respected and would have no motive to create stories out of thin air. I'm concerned for his safety at this point because it seems someone - either Putin or Trump - is after him. He reportedly left his home in England with his children in tow and hasn't been seen. He had a successful business, a nice home and no reason to vanish unless his life is being threatened.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,010 posts)
64. WARNING! - It will be very easy for Putin's henchmen to easily discredit EVERYTHING
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 10:27 PM
Jan 2017

By simply selling something that appears to be authentic, and then after it becomes public, release the proof that it is fake.

Simple, Rovian trick that absolutely is guaranteed to make everybody in the media ignore everything else regarding collaboration between Trump and Russia. It won't matter how strong the evidence will be - they will assume all evidence against Trump is tainted and fake.

Worked against Dan Rather for W and I am certain it can work for Trump.

And I am almost certain that this WILL happen.

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