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The British and other international papers are offering extraordinary detail on the Trump-Russia-FBI scandal:
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https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/820120440345595904?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
The combo of the @Independent's reporting and the anger of Democrats hints that Comey may have resisted investigating Trump pre-election.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-russia-dossier-file-investigation-hacking-christopher-steele-mi6-a7526901.html
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The Water Sports Memo (for want of a better term) dates from July 2016. Three months later, FBI does press release on Clinton instead. Why?
https://twitter.com/ericgarland/status/819979075401945088/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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https://twitter.com/hesanihilist/status/819985104416088065
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https://twitter.com/justinhendrix/status/820244225220636672
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Updated to include:
Four days later Mr Trump stated that he would recognise Moscows annexation of Crimea.
A month later officials involved in his campaign asked the Republican partys election platform to remove a pledge for military assistance to the Ukrainian government against separatist rebels in the east of the country.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-russia-dossier-file-investigation-hacking-christopher-steele-mi6-a7526901.html
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https://twitter.com/LouiseMensch?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Unfortunately the people that are supposed to investigate such things are the people that actually did it! "Making America Fake Again".
NBachers
(17,107 posts)Last edited Sat Jan 14, 2017, 02:33 PM - Edit history (1)
With collusion and collaboration by a greedy, foul, effluvious media.
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)The entire deranged body of conservative elective officials, never ending stream of profiteering conservative media establishment and their mouth breathing horde of 100 million or so pods lose their shit instantaneously over whatever ridiculous bullshit they come up with at any given moment.
THIS has driven the political dialogue in this country for a quarter century now, in an ever increasingly radical and outraged fashion.
Demoracats ... It took until NOW, when it has been stunningly obvious this asshole is SERIOUSLY tied into Russia, it is only NOW, that people are lit up over it?
It starts with the head, the elected officials, there has PLENTY Of evidence to take it to DEFCON 1 with him for over half a year now. And, the country as a whole.
There is no fucking way a democrat could have publically called for russia to hack republican e-mails. There is no fucking way a democrat could have so many high level operatives with a candidate, much the less the candidate himself, have so many direct ties to Russia ... NO WAY these things could happen and that candidate not be absolutely viscerated.
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)give a damn about our democracy. They are willing to sell out. Hundreds of years invested in creating the American Experiment, and they'd sell out to facism. The cultivated ignorance of the masses just might keep them in power for ages.
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)1/3 of us see what is unfolding and are helplessly watching it unfold.
1/3 of the country is gleefully supporting fascism out of its deranged partisanship.
1/3 of the country doesn't care.
We are just going over the cliff Republicans are plowing us over.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)Ignorant people are too ignorant to know that they're ignorant. And far less inclined to deep thought of any kind, particularly self reflection.
The cultivation of ignorance was a master stroke. The enlightenment was really fucking with the ruling class so they had to suppress it.
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)"Tax and spend"
"Welfare queens"
"Bleeding heart libruls"
"Freedom isn't free"
"Why do you hate Amurica?"
"Crooked Hillary"
"Make America Great Again"
blue neen
(12,319 posts)It's not just a Republican or Democratic issue.
calimary
(81,220 posts)blue neen
(12,319 posts)Why wouldn't the Republicans want this to be investigated? Why are they trying to keep everything covered up? It sure makes you wonder.
calimary
(81,220 posts)If you were truly innocent and well-meaning and honest, wouldn't you be shouting from the rooftops about your innocence, and be embracing all attempt to get to the bottom of this, and clear their names and confirm that they're on the up-n-up?
After all, they've often said to us: "if you've done nothing wrong, then you have nothing to worry about."
Well... ?
blue neen
(12,319 posts)What do they have to hide?
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)democratic values. They care about power and wealth. Nothing else matters.
blue neen
(12,319 posts)Moscow Mitch and his gang of Komrades care more for the Russians than they do for Americans....all in the lust for power.
Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)election in the bag, at least some key ones like McConnell, and that's why they wouldn't let Garland have a hearing.
SharonAnn
(13,772 posts)Percy Cholmondeley
(74 posts)Pence and Trump were voted on together, and they should be removed together. My own belief is that part of the reason for this brouhaha is to divert attention from Kris Kobach and his dirty "Crosscheck" election fraud program, which did serious damage to, not only Hillary Clinton, but Democrats all over the country at lower levels. Trump did not campaign like a man who wanted to win, everybody saw that, and took it as one more indication he was going to lose. And, he kept exhorting his audiences not to pay attention to the polls. He said they were "purposefully" wrong. The real powers that be put Pence on the ticket knowing Trump would be temporary president. Or precedent.
pandr32
(11,579 posts)"Trump did not campaign like a man who wanted to win..." seems to suggest that someone else wanted him to run. Putin had already compromised him and pushed him to run perhaps. The whole campaign might have been a Russian plan and Trump merely playing the assigned role in it.
Perhaps the rise of the Tea Party gave Russia an opportunity to quietly enter the political campaign and right-wing media arenas and use the anger, fear, and hatred to their own end. If so, it was easy for them. Then there was Trump, a greedy, vain, ignoramus who was easily compromised--both financially and sexually.
calimary
(81,220 posts)Unfortunately, that would mean "President" Ryan.
Right now, we lose any way you slice it.
I sure hope everybody gets out there and votes in the midterms instead of shrugging off and staying home (because there's something supposedly "better" or "more important" to do that day). We can fix this as soon as 2018.
Rex
(65,616 posts)If we had to live in the reality of the situation, America wouldn't last 5 seconds under real scrutiny.
Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)Cry, the beloved country