How HARD does this evidence have to be?

[LaydeeBug]

I am serious about this...do people really expect that there will be a video of Donald and Vlad lapping it up and laughing about the coup they did?

Do you think we should remain silent about election hacking because YOU think THAT will stifle the vote? Are you fucking kidding me?

How much MORE evidence do you need? Someone on here said THEY need to see "actionable court level evidence"

Is this the fucking Twilight Zone?

Is is an example of being gaslit to suggest Russia didn't do anything?

I don't get it. I really, really don't.

[dalton99a]

1. Trump could spray people with bullets on live TV and they'd still vote for him

[CincyDem]

4. Let's not use the word "spray" and Trump in the same sentence please...

...I'm still trying to get that golden gate word picture out of my mind.

[Cracklin Charlie]

10. Let's also avoid the term "vote"

They don't seem to need those anymore, either.

[HoneyBadger]

2. Do you recall Watergate?

A money trail. And money is VERY easy to track given that Russia was paying using pension payments to imaginary emigres.

[LaydeeBug]

8. I was a gleam in my Daddy's eye...

but the impossible metric of proof DEMANDED by folk around here is absolutely absurd.

We're a discussion board.

Discussing things.

[CincyDem]

3. I'd like to see it rise to the standard set by...

...the investigations into HRC's "30,000 missing emails". Or maybe "Travelgate". But at least "Whitewater". Until Golden-gate rises to that level of possibility raised in those inquiries - we should just move along here, nothing to see.

[dalton99a]

6. Agreed

[Eliot Rosewater]

7. Great point. What we liberals cant get into our heads is

they dont play by the rules, those republicans.

They dont respect the rules, the country, nothing.

We keep assuming they do, they dont.

Russia has taken over America, and they allowed it, and they are STILL defending it.

[LaydeeBug]

17. We're playing poltics, and they're playing war.

And there are some of them who would come this way if they saw we had FIGHT in us.

[LaydeeBug]

9. I know, right?

This is some shit.

[Calista241]

11. Well, considering she was absolved of all wrongdoing by ththe FBI

I don't see how that standard helps us.

[LaydeeBug]

18. You're playing politics. They're playing war.

[uponit7771]

5. +1, "Is is an example of being gaslit to suggest Russia didn't so anything? " YES!!!!!!!!

[world wide wally]

12. I wish the song lyrics "home of the brave" actually meant something.

I guess they just needed something to rhyme with wave.
Soon, we can change it to slave or grave

[Hoyt]

13. Don't think whining for four years over something that can't be proven does us any good.

There will be plenty of opportunity to criticize and oppose Trump for what he does/proposes in office right in front of us. If proof arises of illegal action with Russia, fine, we can ask the GOPer congress to impeach him. But as of right now, Trump will be inaugurated and all our whining, yelling and accusations aren't going to change anything and just make us look like the way GOPers treated Obama. Time to start concentrating on 2018 and 2020.

Sure Russia did something, like we have meddled in a foreign elections, but exactly what? They released some DNC emails that we never should have been stupid enough to compose in the first place and should have been secured at a minimum. Now if they show Russians blackmailed Comey into releasing his BS, or encouraged the millions of stupid white wing racists or Clinton haters to vote for Trump, that would be something.

[LaydeeBug]

16. I think it gets our message out about foreign interference. You are playing politics.

They are playing war.

[Kablooie]

14. These are Republicans. Evidence is totally irrelevant.

I'm serious.
They don't allow evidence, reality or human values to affect their actions anymore.

They only follow pure, unthinking ideology as a means to grab unbridled power.

[LaydeeBug]

15. I mean, EXACTLY this.