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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat Chuck Todd should have said to Rience Priebus
when he said Trump flipped 250 counties, biggest landslide since Reagan blah blah blah,
"Look, I don't want to suggest you are being a dissembling troll but your guy won a very narrow victory in a few key states, almost entirely due to your party's excessive, potentially criminal gerrymandering, voter suppression, dismantling of voter's rights and heavy assistance from Russian hackers and WikiLeaks who were feeding him a constant stream of bullshit from stolen emails for two months. Not to mention collaborative efforts from the FBI who chose to suppress their investigation into Trump's Russian connections in favor of trashing Clinton and reopening the email issue with a bogus warrant. So don't come on my show and start out lying and trying to make it sound like he won some kind of amazing decisive victory when he didn't. Is that OK, with you? Or are in fact going to continue with more bullshit, you dissembling troll?
oasis
(49,376 posts)Chuck could get a chance to slip a word in edgewise. Kellyanne uses the same "Gish Galloping" technique.
Fla Dem
(23,653 posts)I don't know where they learn it, but every RW spokesperson just talks without stopping for a breath. Kelly Ann is a pro at the technique. Never see the Left with anyone that can match their skill at controlling an interview and putting shit out there that never gets refuted.
oasis
(49,376 posts)It's probably why they steer clear of her.
Bozvotros
(785 posts)Her eyes narrow and she gets a certain look when someone is trying to put some bullshit by her. It is not a happy face and whoever is getting it needs to worry.
Aviation Pro
(12,160 posts)To state it this way. The only way to combat the scourge that will enter the White House this coming Friday is to start putting out the same level of bullshit as the administration does.
The question is, who is going to champion the Pissgate and Russian financing stories with the same ferocity as Birthergate?
jknudsen
(52 posts)northoftheborder
(7,572 posts)But way beyond Chuckies' vocabulary and brain cells.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Their silence and tolerance of this kind of bullshit is why democracy will be dead.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)I find it similar to when I talk to flat earthers who don't give a shit about the environment. What good is having a "job" or having money if there is no planet to live on?
People truly are so self absorbed.
onecaliberal
(32,826 posts)Be grateful for the way Obama is treating them considering how they treated Obama. Then I would proceed to ask why they expect people to treat them with the deference they refuse to give other people.
riversedge
(70,195 posts)Bozvotros
(785 posts)That they won't get these trolls to return if they don't let them get away with pushing their narrative? Fuck them then. Bring on opposing viewpoints and talk with them. If they dissemble challenge them too. The job of a free press is to get facts and truth, not provide a platform for bullshittery. I watched the same farce throughout the Bush years. During Obama's tenure there seemed to be a 2-1 advantage towards conservative guests on all the shows which meant they got lots more time to get their unquestioned dishonest assertions into the public domain.
I am sure it must get weary correcting the record, but they need to do their homework, grow a set or find a different line of work.
Orrex
(63,203 posts)Must be hard to talk while his tongue is inserted so firmly within the Republican fundament.
Bozvotros
(785 posts)Republicans always want to jam their fundamentals up everyone's fundament while pretending they just want their own tickled.
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)The same guy was on Stephanopoulis. Who, I think, does a better job of refuting lying statements. He's very quick on his feet and that is fun to watch. The panel discussion was very good, too.
Bozvotros
(785 posts)Bozvotros
(785 posts)PRIEBUS: .......But that issue (Trump beating the birther nonsense) has been resolved for years now, and it's been resolved for at least two years in Donald Trump's mind. And to bring that up as justification for John Lewis questioning the legitimacy of a democratic activity that is -- has been around since the beginning of our country is wrong.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Just a factual point, he didn't stop raising those questions -- he didn't stop raising those questions until late in this campaign, not two years.
PRIEBUS: But look, George, that's not the point. The point is not where Barack Obama was born, the point is is that we've got congressmen on the Democratic side of the aisle that are questioning the legitimacy of President-elect Trump who won in an electoral landslide. That's the issue. That's where the outrage should be, not old news, but the fact that we are preparing for the transfer of power. and we have been working with President Obama, hand in glove, and I think that they -- including the president -- should step up and get his people in line and tell them to grow up and accept the fact that
they lost the election.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Let's move on to the issue of Russia.
Here is what he should have said:
"No, you're missing the point you dense jackass. Your candidate spent five years implying Obama was an illegitimate president and had to be forced to admit it was not true instead of being forced to admit he had lied his ass off about it because he did. He gave that admission all of 20 seconds. So the real outrage you lying sack of shit is that this same putz who was elected under deeply suspicious circumstances, and who won by the narrowest of electoral margins while getting drubbed in the popular vote now wants us to blindly accept his legitimacy. Fuck that noise, Riense."