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.99center

(1,237 posts)
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 03:42 PM Jan 2017

CIA received a recording of a conversation about money from the Kremlin going into Trump's campaign!

Last edited Sun Jan 15, 2017, 05:59 PM - Edit history (1)

Report: CIA set up task-force in 2016 to investigate possible Russian funding of Trump's campaign
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/report-cia-set-task-force-162553783.html
(Jonathan Ernst/Reuters)
A US counterintelligence task force was established by the CIA in 2016 to investigate possible Russian funding of President-elect Donald Trump's presidential campaign, the BBC reported on Friday.

The task force included the FBI, the Treasury and Justice Departments, the CIA, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, and the National Security Agency (NSA).

It was set up after the director of the CIA, John Brennan, received a recording of a conversation about money from the Kremlin going into Trump's campaign coffers, the BBC's Paul Wood reported. The recording was apparently passed to the CIA by the intelligence agency of one of the Baltic States.

On October 15, the task force was granted a warrant by a judge in the FISA court — named after the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act — to intercept the electronic records from two Russian banks that may have been implicated in the money transfer, a senior intelligence official told the BBC. Trump was not named in the warrant, but three of his associates were the subject of the inquiry.
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CIA received a recording of a conversation about money from the Kremlin going into Trump's campaign! (Original Post) .99center Jan 2017 OP
K&R bdamomma Jan 2017 #1
Can this continue to be investigated after Trump takes office? meadowlark5 Jan 2017 #2
Investigated? Sure but proving Trump knew about it beforehand will be the problem. NT cstanleytech Jan 2017 #77
Arresting those around him will further delegitimize him. alfredo Jan 2017 #87
He needs to be brought up on charges DK504 Jan 2017 #94
Wait until he goes to take a shit, then arrest him. alfredo Jan 2017 #100
Depends, can Trump fire the heads of the investigating agencies? If so, doubt if the investigations Alekzander Jan 2017 #91
Actually he had Robert Bork to do the firing. alfredo Jan 2017 #101
Thanks. Alekzander Jan 2017 #102
So when you see Repubs refuse to allow any Dem nominated judge a vote, think of Bork. alfredo Jan 2017 #103
Did our Spook's know more than they are saying? Wellstone ruled Jan 2017 #3
HE'S TOAST! Chasstev365 Jan 2017 #4
No, he isnt Cosmocat Jan 2017 #15
You are probably right, but if the county turns on Trump the way they did with Nixon Chasstev365 Jan 2017 #18
This is the kind of stuff that keeps me addicted to politics. Eyeball_Kid Jan 2017 #20
Fox watchers and Breitbart readers live in an alternate universe that never intersects with Amaryllis Jan 2017 #50
Boy I know that's right TexasBushwhacker Jan 2017 #56
+1, I've been riveted to this whole story line like its a book!! Comey is the lynch pin and it seems uponit7771 Jan 2017 #70
The country won't turn until it's too late, I fear. Crash2Parties Jan 2017 #28
Remember, a lot of people who voted for the big dick head mobeau69 Jan 2017 #32
The country won't turn. Too many are sound asleep. pangaia Jan 2017 #36
Yep! Cosmocat Jan 2017 #73
Yep - it must be the people who scare the politicians into action. kerry-is-my-prez Jan 2017 #60
EVIL LIBERAL BOOGYMAN! Cosmocat Jan 2017 #74
But again-- zentrum Jan 2017 #84
Then I hope your passport is valid. paleotn Jan 2017 #54
It's "Make Water Gate!" Dustlawyer Jan 2017 #19
LOL! Or "Gold Water Gate" ? Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #22
showergate stage left Jan 2017 #69
maybe "Goldenshowergate" best captures the essence Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #80
Holy shit!! This gives me hope. AgadorSparticus Jan 2017 #5
I guess they couldn't verify the tape? kentuck Jan 2017 #6
They set up a multi-agency task force and got a FISA warrant after obtaining the tape. .99center Jan 2017 #13
Spit-balling, but... politicat Jan 2017 #65
I don't think it's that far of a stretch at this point. .99center Jan 2017 #68
And we didn't do a damn thing about it Ruby the Liberal Jan 2017 #7
Wow! triron Jan 2017 #8
Impeachment and removal in...3...2...1 roamer65 Jan 2017 #9
If only! Initech Jan 2017 #12
So be it. roamer65 Jan 2017 #17
The Republicans in Congress fear Trump NewJeffCT Jan 2017 #93
This means Comey and the FBI knew this too. Bozvotros Jan 2017 #10
+1 BadgerMom Jan 2017 #45
kick for visibility triron Jan 2017 #11
We consider this a nation of laws? world wide wally Jan 2017 #14
Let's remember the whole Trump/Pence ticket is illegitimate n/t delisen Jan 2017 #16
That's right! 2naSalit Jan 2017 #72
Unless 63 million ProudLib72 Jan 2017 #21
drip drip drip... let's turn it into a shower! Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #23
Maybe this is the real Golden Shower.... machoneman Jan 2017 #81
How could this happen?? kentuck Jan 2017 #24
Is this source credible? ewagner Jan 2017 #35
Is this for real?? BlueWI Jan 2017 #25
Saturday morning Fox was talking Hillarys damn e-mails doc03 Jan 2017 #83
Wtf bpositive Jan 2017 #26
Trump has crossed the CIA already... bitterross Jan 2017 #27
Welcome to DU bdamomma Jan 2017 #40
He's also crossed MI6 and Mossad, in addition to the CIA and NSA. roamer65 Jan 2017 #52
How much orangecrush Jan 2017 #29
tRump is not a healthy man bdamomma Jan 2017 #41
I assume you mean myocardial infarction, but using initialisms that are not tblue37 Jan 2017 #89
your assumption bdamomma Jan 2017 #98
Rec! progressoid Jan 2017 #30
Would seem relatively easy to verify foreign/Russian money going into Hoyt Jan 2017 #31
One would think. dchill Jan 2017 #55
K & R n/t TubbersUK Jan 2017 #33
This feels very big! Dream Girl Jan 2017 #34
Dirty Donnie. What should we do? What!!!??? Lock-him-up!!! NCjack Jan 2017 #37
yes LOCK HIM UP bdamomma Jan 2017 #42
Can the President pardon himself? Big_K Jan 2017 #86
So basically Comey struck first vlyons Jan 2017 #38
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Jan 2017 #39
So Is This The Alfa Bank Money? theglammistress Jan 2017 #43
My thoughts as well. triron Jan 2017 #47
K&R bdamomma Jan 2017 #44
kick for visibility triron Jan 2017 #46
This is very important get the red out Jan 2017 #48
The comments...Hillary took campaign money from foreign countries SammyWinstonJack Jan 2017 #49
Regarding the replies/comments. ananda Jan 2017 #51
Politifact says "half-true" snpsmom Jan 2017 #57
I read through that triron Jan 2017 #58
Exactly snpsmom Jan 2017 #63
+1, plus didn't they have an outside oversight on contributions? uponit7771 Jan 2017 #71
Thank you! ananda Jan 2017 #67
Commenters are conflating fully reported, legal donations to the Clinton Foundation with lapucelle Jan 2017 #64
K&R blueseas Jan 2017 #53
I read a story at least two months ago colorado_ufo Jan 2017 #59
Alfa bank I think triron Jan 2017 #61
I think you may be right! colorado_ufo Jan 2017 #75
If this doesn't take Benedict Donald down, nothing will. (eom) oasis Jan 2017 #62
K&R... spanone Jan 2017 #66
If the CIA had this recording last summer many a good man Jan 2017 #76
No, because it could be disinformation. harun Jan 2017 #90
k and r... Stuart G Jan 2017 #78
K and R oasis Jan 2017 #79
I can feel a deja vu moment coming... RealityChik Jan 2017 #82
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Jan 2017 #85
the real problem is... tomp Jan 2017 #88
Big fucking kick! LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #92
NATO HELP SayItLoud Jan 2017 #95
nothing will come of it. Elmergantry Jan 2017 #96
Kick oasis Jan 2017 #97
K&R sheshe2 Jan 2017 #99

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
2. Can this continue to be investigated after Trump takes office?
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 03:45 PM
Jan 2017

Trump and his thugs are such dirty players, I would think this mob family will shut down any investigations. Or can the CIA continue to investigate but if the congress chooses not to do anything about it, it's just an investigation that goes no where?

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
87. Arresting those around him will further delegitimize him.
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 12:52 AM
Jan 2017

Crippling his presidency will make his life a living hell.

 

Alekzander

(479 posts)
91. Depends, can Trump fire the heads of the investigating agencies? If so, doubt if the investigations
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 10:34 AM
Jan 2017

will continue. The difference here from when Nixon did the firing is now Republicans & Trump supporters will approve of the firing.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
101. Actually he had Robert Bork to do the firing.
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 07:02 PM
Jan 2017

Others had too much integrity to do the deed.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Massacre

When Bork was rewarded with a Supreme Court seat, the Dems rejected him on the grounds that his answers showed that he saw the court In selfish terms.

The Republicans have been punishing us ever since.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
103. So when you see Repubs refuse to allow any Dem nominated judge a vote, think of Bork.
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 01:05 AM
Jan 2017

Their punishment far exceeds any "crime."

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
3. Did our Spook's know more than they are saying?
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 03:49 PM
Jan 2017

Appears certain Person's were compromised by Politics and being in violation to the Hatch Act,are trying to find some wiggle room in order to cover their asses.

Interesting week to unfold in front of our sleeping Nation of Propagandized Voters.

Noticed Rinse Penius wants Obama to squelch anti Trump speak,funny is it not,where was the attempt to do the same with the Right Wing Hate Machine against Obama. Wow,idiot at play.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
18. You are probably right, but if the county turns on Trump the way they did with Nixon
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 04:46 PM
Jan 2017

It's quite possible. If it's revealed that he took Russian money, coordinated with Putin, and Comey sat on all of it, they may be forced to act to save themselves.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,429 posts)
20. This is the kind of stuff that keeps me addicted to politics.
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 05:07 PM
Jan 2017

It should be obvious that the informed public is about 6 months ahead of their politicians on this issue. Congress will have to be dragged, kicking and screaming, into taking this stuff seriously. And they'll only respond when the Trumpies start abandoning ship and getting enraged that Trumpy's being blackmailed by Putin. Like our politicians, however, the Trumpies are about 6 months behind in "getting it."

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
50. Fox watchers and Breitbart readers live in an alternate universe that never intersects with
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 06:42 PM
Jan 2017

the one we live in. They are presented with a very different version of what is happening.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,146 posts)
56. Boy I know that's right
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 06:49 PM
Jan 2017

I cannot believe the number of them that really truly believe the Pizzagate story.

uponit7771

(90,304 posts)
70. +1, I've been riveted to this whole story line like its a book!! Comey is the lynch pin and it seems
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 08:29 PM
Jan 2017

...he had a lot of reason to stop this election and didn't

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
28. The country won't turn until it's too late, I fear.
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 05:28 PM
Jan 2017

Apart from a few groups I'm aware of and active in...those states that came up red on the final election map still seem to have a view of, "that stuff is just talk, false news, let's give him a chance to do the things he promised. And if he doesn't, we understand that he can't turn the Titanic quickly". It's super frustrating to watch...

mobeau69

(11,133 posts)
32. Remember, a lot of people who voted for the big dick head
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 05:37 PM
Jan 2017

were holding their nose in the voting both. I think that fact has tended to be overlooked.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
84. But again--
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 12:14 AM
Jan 2017

...the Repugs won't investigate. The country turned on Nixon during Watergate because the Senate investigation was televised and unfolded in very watchable, dramatic way.

The press was a little more journalistically responsible in those days and for sure there were some Repugs who really did put the country before their party. That won't happen this time.



paleotn

(17,884 posts)
54. Then I hope your passport is valid.
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 06:48 PM
Jan 2017

...Same for everyone else around here, because if this stands, the rule of law is over and the Republic has fallen. Personally, I think you're wrong. Time will tell.

.99center

(1,237 posts)
13. They set up a multi-agency task force and got a FISA warrant after obtaining the tape.
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 04:18 PM
Jan 2017

Sounds verified. No agency has issued it's findings on the investigations and they can't comment on ongoing investigations. Trump's getting sworn in as our agency's try to figure out if he's a mole. This is beyond disturbing.

politicat

(9,808 posts)
65. Spit-balling, but...
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 07:51 PM
Jan 2017

Move the target of an investigation into the most surveilled room and building in the crown-jewel of the US penal system. Watch carefully, record everything.

Keep friends close, and enemies closer reasoning? Maybe?

.99center

(1,237 posts)
68. I don't think it's that far of a stretch at this point.
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 08:10 PM
Jan 2017

Trump adviser had five calls with Russian envoy on day of sanctions: sources
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-idUSKBN14X1YX

"Michael Flynn, President-elect Donald Trump's choice for national security adviser, held five phone calls with Russia's ambassador to Washington on the day the United States retaliated for Moscow's interference in the U.S. presidential election, three sources familiar with the matter said."

"They spoke on condition of anonymity, citing internal U.S. government deliberations about the issue."

These sources sound like they work within the intelligence community, and if they're confirming phone calls between Flynn and Moscow...

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
7. And we didn't do a damn thing about it
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 03:58 PM
Jan 2017

Going forward, we'll be lucky if our allies give us directions to a hotel much less critical intel.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
93. The Republicans in Congress fear Trump
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 11:55 AM
Jan 2017

and his horde of deplorables. I doubt they'll have the courage to even begin hearings on impeaching Trump.

Bozvotros

(782 posts)
10. This means Comey and the FBI knew this too.
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 04:07 PM
Jan 2017

I am sure if there had been an intercepted GOD DAMN RECORDING that showed Hillary was receiving cash contributions from foreign leaders, Comey would have gone right to Congress and there would have been five investigations started before the day ended.

world wide wally

(21,739 posts)
14. We consider this a nation of laws?
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 04:21 PM
Jan 2017

The only laws they ever enforce are when they penalize average Americans.
The rest apparently don't mean shit.

2naSalit

(86,332 posts)
72. That's right!
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 08:32 PM
Jan 2017

Including leading members of Congress and the VPE! They are all involved and need to be prosecute to the full extent of the law(s).

DOJ should be screaming about this.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
21. Unless 63 million
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 05:08 PM
Jan 2017

deplorables personally witnessed the transaction, then it never happened. Even then, I suspect a single tweet would dispel any worry.

BlueWI

(1,736 posts)
25. Is this for real??
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 05:24 PM
Jan 2017

Colluding with the Russians, an ongoing investigation??? How does Team Repub spin this one????

doc03

(35,298 posts)
83. Saturday morning Fox was talking Hillarys damn e-mails
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 11:46 PM
Jan 2017

instead of Trump and Russia that's how they will do it. Fox has the Trump voters brainwashed they will
never admit Trump colluded with Russia even if they see a video of Putin giving him a bag of cash.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
27. Trump has crossed the CIA already...
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 05:27 PM
Jan 2017

Crossing the CIA has not worked out very well for Presidents in the past. The CIA has no problem taking out Presidents foreign and domestic.

bdamomma

(63,801 posts)
40. Welcome to DU
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 06:15 PM
Jan 2017


Oh yes I wouldn't mess with the CIA, and the FBI is committing high crimes and misdemeanors. Where is that stupid Comey any way.

And it seems like other Intelligence agencies will be leaking info. This should be interesting.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
52. He's also crossed MI6 and Mossad, in addition to the CIA and NSA.
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 06:46 PM
Jan 2017

It's a recipe for disaster for the Dump admin.

orangecrush

(19,430 posts)
29. How much
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 05:31 PM
Jan 2017

Does it take?

This buffoon has already done incalculable damage to the nation.

They hand him the keys in 5 days.

bdamomma

(63,801 posts)
41. tRump is not a healthy man
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 06:18 PM
Jan 2017

eats junk food and stays up late not very good for a 70 yr old man.......you never know he could be a candidate for a MI.

tblue37

(65,227 posts)
89. I assume you mean myocardial infarction, but using initialisms that are not
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 09:29 AM
Jan 2017

commonly recognized forces most readers to play frustrating guessing games. MI is not a commonly recognized initialism outside of health care providers.

Big_K

(237 posts)
86. Can the President pardon himself?
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 12:19 AM
Jan 2017

Then again, resign + pardon from your VP who becomes President has worked before.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
38. So basically Comey struck first
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 06:07 PM
Jan 2017

Comey knew back in Oct 2015 that Trump and his criminal clique were traitors. So he struck at Clinton first before the Russia-Trump info surfaced through a leak.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,129 posts)
49. The comments...Hillary took campaign money from foreign countries
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 06:37 PM
Jan 2017

20 million ftom Saudi Arabia...why isn't she being investigated...I hope trump rounds them all up and shoots them on live tv....... wtf....

ananda

(28,836 posts)
51. Regarding the replies/comments.
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 06:46 PM
Jan 2017

The main reply is that Clinton took a lot of foreign money herself,
particularly from the Saudis.

Is this true?

Of course, if she did, two wrongs don't make a right; but I want to know
whether she did or not.

triron

(21,984 posts)
58. I read through that
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 07:06 PM
Jan 2017

Clinton didn't take any money from foreign governments! It was donated to the CGI which does charitable good work throughout the world.

lapucelle

(18,187 posts)
64. Commenters are conflating fully reported, legal donations to the Clinton Foundation with
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 07:47 PM
Jan 2017

under the table, illegal campaign payoffs to Trump.

The phony narrative (flogged by the right wing, Jill Stein, and the BoBs with lots of assistance from the media) that Hillary was bought and paid for was hugely successful in damaging her candidacy and her credibility.

colorado_ufo

(5,730 posts)
59. I read a story at least two months ago
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 07:09 PM
Jan 2017

about the discovery of a computer somewhere in Trump Tower that was a direct line to a Russian bank - and then NOTHING. The story disappeared.

many a good man

(5,997 posts)
76. If the CIA had this recording last summer
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 09:21 PM
Jan 2017

then withholding it from public knowledge prior to the election is treasonous.

harun

(11,348 posts)
90. No, because it could be disinformation.
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 10:28 AM
Jan 2017

A call isn't worth anything without actual proof of transfers. They have that then it's another story altogether.

RealityChik

(382 posts)
82. I can feel a deja vu moment coming...
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 11:30 PM
Jan 2017

It'll be like Wall Street and the Great Recession. Lots of big talk about throwing all the big bankers in jail. Then proceed to scapegoat a couple of low level players with a couple years in the Condo Prison, while the criminals get off Scott-free, er...Trump-free, including the big Cheeto himself.

No, at this point, I'm pretty skeptical. I'm too exhausted from all this drama. And Hillary STILL won't be our president. I'll be gettin' back to studying my "Indivisible Manifesto" now.

 

tomp

(9,512 posts)
88. the real problem is...
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 08:54 AM
Jan 2017

...EVEN IF this all gains traction and *rump is compromised, there is no constitutional mechanism for undoing or redoing an election. despite a rigged election the best we can hope for constitutionally is pence, and i don't believe the repubs would mind that at all. IF there is sufficient evidence to indicate the election was invalid, clinton should be president, but constitutionally that can't happen, ergo, constitutional crisis. (as an aside, there is also no telling yet if congressional elections were "hacked" in some way and therefore if the republican majorities are valid.)

SayItLoud

(1,701 posts)
95. NATO HELP
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 12:43 PM
Jan 2017

NATO countries need to use all their intel resources and investigate banking, communication and all things tRUMP45*

The ASS terix Pres: The asterisk applies to any achievement gained through questionable means.

 

Elmergantry

(884 posts)
96. nothing will come of it.
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 01:12 PM
Jan 2017

Revolutions are fought on empty bellies. Too many people are content with the free bread and circuses to want to upset the applecart. In a way we are a victim of our own success.

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