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But now its not looking so simple. In fact, Trump just dealt a huge blow to their top priority: repealing the Affordable Care Act. Accomplishing repeal without causing the GOP a political calamity is an extremely delicate enterprise, and the last thing they want is to have him popping off at the mouth and promising things they cant deliver. Which is what he just did
Its not going to be their plan, he said of people covered under the current law. Itll be another plan. But theyll be beautifully covered. I dont want single-payer. What I do want is to be able to take care of people, he said Saturday.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/01/16/donald-trump-may-have-just-destroyed-the-republican-effort-to-repeal-obamacare/?utm_term=.37ce53b33087#comments
JenniferJuniper
(4,496 posts)dalton99a
(81,065 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)uhnope
(6,419 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)PatSeg
(46,788 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)This is a non-starter for Republicans. The following years would be humorous if not for the fact that the plight of millions hangs in the balance between these two idiotic branches of our government.
mainer
(12,013 posts)but no one believes he has anything of the sort. Just folders filled with blank paper.
my friend is what separates us from them. If what the Republicans wanted to do had anything to do with helping the average American citizen they'd never hear anything from us.
Phoenix61
(16,950 posts)Akamai
(1,779 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)ananda
(28,782 posts).. and a lot of shit.
erpowers
(9,350 posts)The comments from the Washington Post seem to be Donald Trump talking out of his ass. He wants everyone to be covered, but he does not want single-payer. Everyone is going to be covered and they are going to have great plans and great healthcare, but it will cost less and be more simple. How is it going to cost less to give everyone health insurance, especially if you are going to cover people who cannot afford to pay for their health insurance? Even now the ACA does not cover all Americans. I do not think forcing drug companies to negotiate their prices with government agencies will decrease health costs enough to make it cheaper to cover every American who does not have health insurance. Trump's comments just make him seems stupid.
Brainstormy
(2,380 posts)but honestly Trump is ALWAYS talking out of his ass.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)mercuryblues
(14,491 posts)when he talks his lips look like an asshole.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)... even when he says what we want to hear. Especially when he says what people want to hear.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)Unless he vows to veto any repeal without replace bill, it's just hot air for the rubes.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Why do I get the feeling he's just talking out of his ass again?
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,297 posts)You have that feeling...............BECAUSE HE IS!
JenniferJuniper
(4,496 posts)it's close to where his brain is.
I'd enjoy this but for the fact that the future of the Republic is seriously in jeopardy.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Perhaps not brutal enough....
FailureToCommunicate
(13,989 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I know it's unpleasant, but you have to agree that it's kind of an accurate representation.
progressoid
(49,825 posts)I was going to have lunch!
Guess I can wait a couple more hours.
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)central scrutinizer
(11,617 posts)Or more likely, a outright lie.
onenote
(42,374 posts)It will be great for the insurance companies who will take in premium payments but won't have to cover much.
Takket
(21,424 posts)As his info on hacking that he promised us on "tuesday or wednesday of next week".... three weeks ago
it will never be spoken of again
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)So what Trump said everyone will have beautiful health care at lower cost than the current ACA?
Really. So what?
So the Republicans repeal the ACA and give us personal Health Care Accounts we have no extra income to fund and Health Care Vouchers for discounts on health care we still can't pay for?
So what if that happens and it doesn't square with what Trump said.
SO WHAT?
People watching FOX News will still blame all their problems on Obama, Hillary, Schumer, Democrats.
What Trump says means absolutely nothing. Because at this point it's obvious everything he says is a lie. He can contradict himself ten times a day in obvious fashion and it doesn't matter.
marlakay
(11,370 posts)Everyone will be covered by 8 ft of dirt when they die.
I think he is promising stuff he can't deliver again and once again good at changing subject from what he said about black leader on MLK day.
flamingdem
(39,303 posts)piss pot
They'll just shut him up, asap
Jacob Boehme
(789 posts)His mouth is moving so therefore he's lying.
IronLionZion
(45,256 posts)but Were going to have insurance for everybody,
Medicare is popular. Maybe instead of single payer, they can pass Medicare for all.
Since the PPACA has proven to be way better than that failed Obamacare.
Prawns taste better than shrimp.
Hoagies are way better than sub sandwiches, grinders, po boys, hero etc.
WhiteTara
(29,676 posts)and it will be dashed to smitereens by the orange faced baboon.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Trying to deflect from the backlash from inslts to John Lewis.
IntraPolitico
(51 posts)The drift he's creating between himself and the GOP means more potential for an impeachment! Yes Trumpo, keep disagreeing with your party!
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)He keeps stepping on Republicans. It's a beautiful thing.
Elmergantry
(884 posts)In time i would not bet against him.
still_one
(91,944 posts)uponit7771
(90,225 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)therefore I believe nothing that comes out of his mouth.
LAS14
(13,749 posts)Just because Trump says something doesn't mean he's going to do it. There's no reason in the world to think that he would veto anything the Republican congress passes just because he once suggested he would. Nothing he says has a shelf life of longer than a day or two.
But now its not looking so simple. In fact, Trump just dealt a huge blow to their top priority: repealing the Affordable Care Act. Accomplishing repeal without causing the GOP a political calamity is an extremely delicate enterprise, and the last thing they want is to have him popping off at the mouth and promising things they cant deliver. Which is what he just did
Stellar
(5,644 posts)And call it TrumpCare. Thanks Alex!
elmac
(4,642 posts)maybe take away the mandate, replace that with a subsidy of some kind to the insurers. It will cost the gov much more $$$$ but they won't keep track of that.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)A typical Trump sales pitch.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)then why isn't every other industrialized country in the whole world rushing to implement a healthcare system like ours? If our healthcare system is so god-damned wonderful, then why aren't countries around the world rushing to double the cost of medication to match the costs in the US system?
Those are rhetorical questions.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)napi21
(45,806 posts)that is driving the Pubs over the edge is this: Also, Trump said, he will call for the government to negotiate with pharmaceutical companies directly, forcing them to lower their prices. Theyre politically protected but not anymore, Trump said of the drug industry.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-obamacare-replacement_us_587cc478e4b0b3c7a7b205de
The claims he made about "his new plan" are 100% the opposite of what the Pubs have been pushing /for 8 years and they will HATE him for it. It's also such pie in the sky it can't be done ass he described. Then, on top of all that, he promises to negotiate with the pharmaceutical houses. I can't wait to hear what his Pub congress has to say, IF they can still speak!
BainsBane
(53,001 posts)Tweets are not policy.
LakeArenal
(28,713 posts)I think Twitler thinks tweets are policy.
stopbush
(24,376 posts)it doesn't mean the R Congress will rubber stamp his policies. They are not beholden to him. They are beholden to all the big money interests that keep them in office for decades. They will not risk taking a hit to their campaign coffers by going along with Trump. They will use all of their political smoke and mirrors to not do anything that is in opposition to their "I've got mine, fuck the rest of you" philosophy.
louis-t
(23,199 posts)he can't deliver on, but I doubt it.