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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJohn Dean, one of the key figures in Watergate, has had literal nightmares about Trump's presidency.
The American presidency has never been at the whims of an authoritarian personality like Donald Trump, Dean, who is now 78, told me. He is going to test our democracy as it has never been tested.
With Trump preparing to take the oath of office this week, some of his more imaginative critics foresee a Nixonian demise on the horizonthe corrupt commander-in-chief felled by his own hubris, forced out of office. But if prophesies of impeachment seem a tad dramatic, Deans own forecast for the next four years is arguably much grimmer. He is not only convinced that Trump will be worse than Nixon in virtually every wayhe thinks hell probably get away with it.
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I used to have one-on-one conversations with [Nixon] where Id see him checking his more authoritarian tendencies, Dean recalled. Hed say, This is something I cant say out loud... or, That is something the president cant do. To Dean, these moments suggested a functioning sense of shame in Nixon, something he was forced to wrestle with in his quest for power. Trump, by contrast, appears to Dean unmolested by any such struggle.
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......Dean says Trump will almost certainly weather whatever storms he faces during his presidency. Unless Trump is a such a disaster that the public rises up and changes control of Congress in the mid-term elections, he is very safe.
Dean is less sure, however, of how the republic will look at the end of a Trump presidency. By nature, I am an optimist, he told me. But Trump as president is going to be about surviving disaster.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/john-dean-interview/513215/
Baitball Blogger
(46,676 posts)Bush II Redux and takes us into a war that could have been avoided. It will probably be a war that is started by a false flag. But this time around we should see it coming. I just wonder if our military men and women will finally wake up and realize how badly they read the political map in the U.S.A.
DK504
(3,847 posts)Will we have to have a military coup to stop this maniac? I don't know how I feel about that. Would they have a new election? Would they wait for 4 years, with this Congress?
Hekate
(90,538 posts)...solution: it has to come from Congress.
It boggles the mind that so many who are opposed to this impending "strongman" government are themselves looking for a "strongman" to rescue them. That's not a road you can travel down to save democracy.
mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)tavalon
(27,985 posts)Maybe a military stand down. But we go military coup and the American experiment is over and failed.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)but I think most of them are sane, and they have to be rational and realistic.
I have no idea what will happen.
My huge worry is a major terror attack that they will use to justify horrific shit here and abroad.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)I had a bad feeling about Bush in 2000, and he turned out to be quite bad. I had a pretty good feeling about Obama in 2008 and he turned out well as president.
I have a terrible feeling about Trump.
MBS
(9,688 posts)Unfortunately.
spedtr90
(719 posts)Really wish I'd read it when it was published in 2006. It was a bestseller then. It needs to be again.
I admire him immensely for his courage in speaking out over the years despite the vicious smear campaign against him that started in 1991.
From the book:
* They travel in tight circles of like-minded people.
* Their thinking is more likely based on what authorities have told them rather than on their own critical judgment, which results in their beliefs being filled with inconsistencies.
* They harbor numerous double standards and hypocrisies.
* They are hostile toward so many minorities they seem to be equal-opportunity bigots, yet they are generally unaware of their prejudices.
* They see the world as a dangerous place, with society teetering on the brink of self-destruction from evil and violence, and when their fear conflates with their self-righteousness, they appoint themselves guardians of public morality, or God's Designated Hitters.
* They think of themselves as far more moral and upstanding than others-a self-deception aided by their religiosity (many are "born again" and their ability to "evaporate guilt" (such as by going to confession).
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Bob Altemeyer, who's researched the subject for over 20 years. Altemeyer wrote a book on the subject that I highly recommend. It's available for free here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxxylK6fR81rckQxWi1hVFFRUDg/view
Dean. You never would have heard of my research if
he had not recently plowed through my studies, trying
to understand, first, various people he knew in the
Nixon White House, and then some leading figures of
the Republican Party of 2004. John Dean is quite a
guy. I think I offended him once by addressing him as
AHonest John,@ which I meant in the sense of AHonest
Abe.@ John strikes one with his candor and openness. I
treasure his friendship as much as I treasure his
unfailing help. Some of his closest friends, I have discovered, go back to his high
school days. I think that says a lot about a person, especially given what John went
through in the 1970s. The former counsel to the president@ has campaigned endlessly
on behalf of my research, making it known wherever he could. This book was his
idea, and you would not be reading it if he had not kept "bringing me up on the stage"
with him as he talked about his Conservatives Without Conscience.
Professor Altemeyer's website: http://theauthoritarians.org/
Democratic strategists have used his work to try to understand the RW mindset.
mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)spedtr90
(719 posts)I check it out!
book_worm
(15,951 posts)LeftInTX
(25,106 posts)And I agree. Nixon seemed like a gentleman compared to Trump. But I think Bush was worse than Nixon. Both are creatures of their times. Nixon had Vietnam and the draft. Bush lied us into war and was able to sanitize the whole thing by using the National Guard along with numerous re-deployments.