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KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 01:24 AM Jan 2017

Did You Know Obama Sent Troops To Norway & Poland?

I didn't until watching Rachel M's show tonight:

Some 300 U.S. Marines landed in Norway on Monday for a six-month deployment, the first time since World War Two that foreign troops have been allowed to be stationed there, in a deployment which has irked Norway's Arctic neighbor Russia.

Officials played down any link between the operation and NATO concerns over Russia, but the deployment coincides with the U.S. sending several thousand troops to Poland to beef up its Eastern European allies worried about Moscow's assertiveness.

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Did You Know Obama Sent Troops To Norway & Poland? (Original Post) KittyWampus Jan 2017 OP
Trump will call them back to "save money" dalton99a Jan 2017 #1
I bet the dictator will bring them right back after he Doreen Jan 2017 #2
Yes, I knew. Friends in Tromso knew about it before it hit the US news outlets DUH !! pangaia Jan 2017 #3
There was also a large delivery of armored vehicles & military equipment about 2 weeks ago to NATO Pachamama Jan 2017 #4
This was a defensive exercise set when the allies met in Warsaw after Putin took Crimea. SunSeeker Jan 2017 #5
Saw it on a social media post earlier today. ancianita Jan 2017 #6
Well played, President Obama. Hekate Jan 2017 #7
Yep - and JustAnotherGen Jan 2017 #16
The polish people welcomed the troops !! Thekaspervote Jan 2017 #8
Yes, read about both here at DU Crabby Appleton Jan 2017 #9
maybe time to think about bringing back the draft nikto Jan 2017 #10
Drafting American sons and daughters is one sure way to get The People's attention right quick.... Hekate Jan 2017 #13
Sad but true nikto Jan 2017 #18
Norway went back to a cold war posture on positioning their troops a couple of weeks ago. world wide wally Jan 2017 #11
I knew about the troops to Poland. Solly Mack Jan 2017 #12
Yes. It was even mentioned by right-wing media as "dangerous" because... Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #14
Yes JustAnotherGen Jan 2017 #15
Yes get the red out Jan 2017 #17
I just wish there was some way ... nikto Jan 2017 #19
Putin is eyeing the reclamation of all former Soviet states, in addition oil/shipping in Norway. TheBlackAdder Jan 2017 #20

Pachamama

(16,886 posts)
4. There was also a large delivery of armored vehicles & military equipment about 2 weeks ago to NATO
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 01:33 AM
Jan 2017

...that was delivered into Germany's port of Bremerhaven. Will try to find the link, read about it here on DU and another source in Europe.

SunSeeker

(51,545 posts)
5. This was a defensive exercise set when the allies met in Warsaw after Putin took Crimea.
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 03:20 AM
Jan 2017

It was going to happen regardless of Putin's current outrages. However, it appears that Obama sped up the timeline for the excercise so that the equipment got into the baltic states before he left office, understandably not trusting Trump to do it. Most of the tanks were desert camo. General Ray explained they did not have time to paint them green camo for the European continent.

Our NATO allies desperatly wanted this exercise so that we could train for any potential defense against a further Putin land grab. They know we need to be prepared for immediate action, so there is not a repeat of how it was when Putin rushed into Crimea so fast that we could do little more than watch.

ancianita

(36,009 posts)
6. Saw it on a social media post earlier today.
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 03:24 AM
Jan 2017

Two Norwegians (I checked their ID's) posted that US troops have been around, most of the country's glad to see them, no worries, because we're NATO. It's all good.

They said they don't care what Russia thinks.



Hekate

(90,616 posts)
13. Drafting American sons and daughters is one sure way to get The People's attention right quick....
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 05:01 AM
Jan 2017

I'm truly sorry, but I concluded that during the BushCheney admin. As long as it's someone else's relative, and as long as there is such a low percentage of Americans serving, foreign excursions are just too easy to ignore -- especially by young people. My generation's outrage helped bring the Vietnam war to an end, because so many were dying and everyone was at risk from the draft. Well, nearly everyone -- must remember TANG.

world wide wally

(21,739 posts)
11. Norway went back to a cold war posture on positioning their troops a couple of weeks ago.
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 03:56 AM
Jan 2017

Russia has become a threat again for some unknown reason

Solly Mack

(90,762 posts)
12. I knew about the troops to Poland.
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 04:21 AM
Jan 2017

It was known since the summer of last year that they would go this year.

Recently read about the Marines.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
14. Yes. It was even mentioned by right-wing media as "dangerous" because...
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 05:05 AM
Jan 2017

it was supposedly insulting to Russia, whereas Trump will supposedly make better decisions since he'll be "friendly" to them.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
19. I just wish there was some way ...
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 06:35 AM
Jan 2017

We could get Russia to close-down some of their bases surrounding America.

TheBlackAdder

(28,179 posts)
20. Putin is eyeing the reclamation of all former Soviet states, in addition oil/shipping in Norway.
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 08:13 AM
Jan 2017

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Even with Poland, invasion of Norway is deemed an acceptable loss to NATO, preventing a regional war.

This is the same as Taiwan, where it is ill-advised to enter into a war to prevent China from seizing it.
The provoking of China is there to act as a diversion, while the challenge to the island might bring into question the legitimacy and power of the Chinese government--causing them to act out and start a bloody campaign to retake the island by force. Since all citizens of Taiwan are conscripted, it won't end well.

In Norway, he pretty much is doing a China, where Putin wants to secure the land near oil and shipping lanes.


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