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retrowire

(10,345 posts)
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 01:20 PM Jan 2017

I knew this would happen...

Ever since the coined term of "fake news" started getting used, I knew that it would immediately lose any weight it had ASAP.

As soon as Trump started calling legit news sources fake news, I knew his followers would take that concrete and slap it right down on their faces, further solidifying any chance at them opening their eyes and trying to learn for a moment.

So not only do we live in a post truth world now, we live in a world where people's emotions are given more validity than facts. And this is happening en masse.

A nation guided by emotion rather than logic? Oh boy.

And how do you approach emotion with logic? In my experience, you don't! You wait for emotion to calm down and then you reason with it. But looking at this hate machine that's been raging on for years and is now getting the fresh fuel of false legitimacy, I don't really see a point where the walls of emotion will lower.

Do you?

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I knew this would happen... (Original Post) retrowire Jan 2017 OP
I know oldtime dfl_er Jan 2017 #1
Keep to the facts. The number one station for Fake News is FoxNews. Baitball Blogger Jan 2017 #2
Yes, anything they don't agree with is called fake news and totally disregarded. Arkansas Granny Jan 2017 #3
EXACTLY retrowire Jan 2017 #4
Fake news is 'telling it like it feels instead of telling it like it is' aidbo Jan 2017 #5
Propaganda and Lies are the terms that need to be used. n/t delisen Jan 2017 #6

oldtime dfl_er

(6,930 posts)
1. I know
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 01:22 PM
Jan 2017

and right after the election, i was sort of laughing thru my tears at the thought of all those old white Republican men voting their feelings.

Baitball Blogger

(46,697 posts)
2. Keep to the facts. The number one station for Fake News is FoxNews.
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 01:22 PM
Jan 2017

Through the statistics at them, and by all means quote the lawsuits that allowed them to continue reporting fake news.

Arkansas Granny

(31,513 posts)
3. Yes, anything they don't agree with is called fake news and totally disregarded.
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 01:36 PM
Jan 2017

The term gave them a ready made scapegoat.

 

aidbo

(2,328 posts)
5. Fake news is 'telling it like it feels instead of telling it like it is'
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 01:52 PM
Jan 2017

A good article by Laurie Penny:

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2017/01/fake-news-sells-because-people-want-it-be-true

When is a lie not a lie? Recently, the Daily Telegraph reported that university students had demanded that “philosophers such as Plato and Kant” be “removed from [the] syllabus because they are white”. Other outlets followed suit, wringing their hands over the censoriousness of today’s uninquiring young minds. The article generated an extraordinary amount of consternation click bait. Angry responses were written and hot takes were quick-fried and served up by outlets anxious to join the dinner rush of ad-friendly disapproval.

It’s a story that could have been designed to press every outrage button of the political-correctness-gone-mad brigade. It has students trying to ban things, an apparent lack of respect for independent thought and reverse racism. It seemed too good to be true.

And it was. In reality, what happened was far less interesting: the student union of the School of Oriental and African Studies (Soas) at the University of London had proposed that “the majority of philosophers on our courses” be from Asia and Africa, and that the Western greats be approached from a “critical standpoint”. Some might consider this a reasonable request, given that critical analysis is a component of most philosophy courses, and Soas has a long tradition of promoting the study of the global South. Yet a story about students declaring Kant irrelevant allows the Telegraph to despair for the youth of today and permits advertisers to profit from that despair.

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If people lose trust in the media’s capacity to report facts, they begin to rely on what “feels” true, and the influence rests with whomever can capitalise on those feelings. Donald Trump and his team know this. Trump doesn’t tell it like it is. Instead, he tells it like it feels, and that’s far more effective.
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delisen

(6,042 posts)
6. Propaganda and Lies are the terms that need to be used. n/t
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 03:06 PM
Jan 2017

Print media avoid propaganda in headlines because it is a long word

However we are being subjected to propaganda.

Dictionary.com definition: information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread widely to help or harm a person, group, movement, institution, nation, etc. ... the deliberate spreading of such information, rumors, etc


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