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Thom Hartman show (Original Post) cilla4progress Jan 2017 OP
Encourage everyone to go to him and FSTV jodymarie aimee Jan 2017 #1
Hell no. Hekate Jan 2017 #7
Fuck that. If I want Russian propeganda I'll go straight to baby Donny. Maru Kitteh Jan 2017 #8
Yep, all that stuff about trying to convince Sanders voters to vote for Hillary Quixote1818 Jan 2017 #32
Why? - DemocracyNow The War & Conspiracy Report otohara Jan 2017 #29
Thom's show is a Sputnik production, & he has a show on RT. How is that OK ... Mika Jan 2017 #2
Good question... FarPoint Jan 2017 #3
dont have to watch, its streaming on various us radio stations - as with ALL MEDIA these days Kashkakat v.2.0 Jan 2017 #4
I listen to TH regularly and I haven't heard Ilsa Jan 2017 #5
Continually speaking against the nominee pro-Putin. Hartman is another of Putin's "useful idiots" Maru Kitteh Jan 2017 #9
I heard TH support HRC every day during the general. Ilsa Jan 2017 #11
Correct. H2O Man Jan 2017 #19
He was also very pro Hilary. Quixote1818 Jan 2017 #31
Mike Papantonio said he has journalistic freedom on RT - unlike corporate news networks womanofthehills Jan 2017 #15
Regardless of whether freedom is denied via the corporation or the government LanternWaste Jan 2017 #17
too right, as soon as they do a special on the Groznya sturnz0r Jan 2017 #18
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2017 #21
Who, Tokyo Rose? Now that we know who writes his paycheck, why give him any space here? Hekate Jan 2017 #6
And go to American corporate networks where they are censored. womanofthehills Jan 2017 #16
We have good news sources left to us that are in print; we have PBS, NPR, and a roster.... Hekate Jan 2017 #24
I think we need as many progressives out there as possible womanofthehills Jan 2017 #26
Nope. If they're really "progressive" they will know enough to not support Putin's propaganda outlet Hekate Jan 2017 #30
You mean that charlatan on RT who also promotes "buy gold!!11! I do!1!" PSPS Jan 2017 #10
Who cares what Thom Hartmann says? MineralMan Jan 2017 #12
please provide examples of Thom being a bad guy jodymarie aimee Jan 2017 #13
Exactly. The worst thing I can say about him are the ads, but Ilsa Jan 2017 #20
RT? Really? Just ignore the info on it because its been a couple of days?! NO... Fuck that uponit7771 Jan 2017 #23
Times have changed since 1969, jodiemarie. Thom may not be "bad" but he is in bed with the Dark Side Hekate Jan 2017 #25
I agree with Jody Marie here cilla4progress Jan 2017 #14
I like Thom Hartman. H2O Man Jan 2017 #22
I like him too womanofthehills Jan 2017 #27
Thom Hartmann is a national treasure!! SalviaBlue Jan 2017 #28

Maru Kitteh

(28,339 posts)
8. Fuck that. If I want Russian propeganda I'll go straight to baby Donny.
Thu Jan 19, 2017, 02:34 PM
Jan 2017

Thom Hartman is RT/Putin's beard, and he's not a very good one.



Quixote1818

(28,928 posts)
32. Yep, all that stuff about trying to convince Sanders voters to vote for Hillary
Thu Jan 19, 2017, 07:01 PM
Jan 2017

was straight from Putin's playbook. If Hartmann is propaganda for Russia he is terrible at it.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
29. Why? - DemocracyNow The War & Conspiracy Report
Thu Jan 19, 2017, 06:41 PM
Jan 2017

Nope not interested in hearing or watching Julian Assange, Glenn Greenwald the other regulars who trash the Democratic party and helped derail Hillary. Not interested in Thom Hartmann - Ed Schultz either.

Fuck them.


 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
2. Thom's show is a Sputnik production, & he has a show on RT. How is that OK ...
Thu Jan 19, 2017, 02:17 PM
Jan 2017

... considering the comprehensive taint regarding everything Putin?


Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
4. dont have to watch, its streaming on various us radio stations - as with ALL MEDIA these days
Thu Jan 19, 2017, 02:27 PM
Jan 2017

its good to take ANYTHING you hear with a healthy dose of skepticism - should be getting info from various sources anyway.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
5. I listen to TH regularly and I haven't heard
Thu Jan 19, 2017, 02:30 PM
Jan 2017

Him take any pro-russian or pro-putin positions. Please tell me if you've heard him say something bizarre. I'm willing to be emlightened.

Maru Kitteh

(28,339 posts)
9. Continually speaking against the nominee pro-Putin. Hartman is another of Putin's "useful idiots"
Thu Jan 19, 2017, 02:38 PM
Jan 2017

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
11. I heard TH support HRC every day during the general.
Thu Jan 19, 2017, 02:49 PM
Jan 2017

There were times when he critiqued her campaign for questionable moves, but he always supported her in the general election and told the Bernie or Bust people calling in that they were wrong and would end up with Trump if they voted for anyone but HRC.

Quixote1818

(28,928 posts)
31. He was also very pro Hilary.
Thu Jan 19, 2017, 06:52 PM
Jan 2017

Sure he was more for Sanders but he has had Sanders on his show for years. They see eye to eye. But when Hillary got the nom Thom pushed for her hard.

I am not sure why there is all this hate for Thom here.

womanofthehills

(8,698 posts)
15. Mike Papantonio said he has journalistic freedom on RT - unlike corporate news networks
Thu Jan 19, 2017, 03:05 PM
Jan 2017

Also his show will go around the world - influencing people. He was always censored on corporate news networks. It's sad for America that corporations run our news networks. What is your solution for our progressives that have to go to RT to not be censored? It's a big problem. It's the only place he can hold corporations accountable - it's a Catch-22.


“America’s Lawyer” Premiering on RT America – One of the Last Sources for Real Investigative Journalism on TV Today


But one factor which gives “America’s Lawyer” the edge over its competition is its editorial freedom and ability to go after even the biggest corporation due to its location on RT America.

“America’s Lawyer” is set to join Thom Hartmann of “The Big Picture,” Ed Schultz of “News With Ed,” and Larry King of “Larry King Now” and “Politicking” on RT America, all of whom host successful progressive shows on the network.

RT America is part of a vast global news network which reaches audiences in every English-speaking nation in the world. Rather than being limited to American audiences, “America’s Lawyer” will broadcast across the globe, informing and educating viewers everywhere.

“America’s Lawyer” is expected to do well on RT America for one important reason: it has the journalistic freedom to reach out and grab any news story or controversy that it sees fit. Unlike corporate news networks, “America’s Lawyer” will not be censored by advertisers or told what to say and what not to say by a bought-and-paid for corporation.


.com/2016/12/06/americas-lawyer-premiering-rt-america-one-last-sources-real-investigative-journalism-tv-today/
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
17. Regardless of whether freedom is denied via the corporation or the government
Thu Jan 19, 2017, 03:16 PM
Jan 2017

"he has journalistic freedom on RT - unlike corporate news networks..."

Regardless of whether freedom is denied via the corporation or the government, it is still freedom denied. Skepticism of the one should not result in a complete absolution of the other. It does us well to apply our skepticism consistently and without allowing our own bias to interfere.



During the 2008 South Ossetia War, RT correspondent William Dunbar resigned after the network refused to let him report on Russian airstrikes of civilian targets, stating, "any issue where there is a Kremlin line, RT is sure to toe it."

Shaun Walker, the Moscow correspondent for The Independent, said that RT had "instructed reporters not to report from Georgian villages within South Ossetia that had been ethnically cleansed."

In 2014, RT Washington, D.C. bureau anchor Liz Wahl resigned on air, blaming RT for propaganda.

Sara Firth, a London-based correspondent with RT resigned in protest over the network's coverage of the MH17 disaster. Shortly before resigning, she tweeted, "RT style guide Rule 1: It is ALWAYS * Ukraine's fault

sturnz0r

(30 posts)
18. too right, as soon as they do a special on the Groznya
Thu Jan 19, 2017, 03:50 PM
Jan 2017

.. bombings, then they can say that they have journalistic freedom.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
6. Who, Tokyo Rose? Now that we know who writes his paycheck, why give him any space here?
Thu Jan 19, 2017, 02:31 PM
Jan 2017

Thom and the other Americans there need to wake up and get the hell out. They can't be that hard up for groceries.

womanofthehills

(8,698 posts)
16. And go to American corporate networks where they are censored.
Thu Jan 19, 2017, 03:08 PM
Jan 2017

No sponsors to hijack anything they want to say and their programs go round the world - not just US.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
24. We have good news sources left to us that are in print; we have PBS, NPR, and a roster....
Thu Jan 19, 2017, 04:09 PM
Jan 2017

....of good journalists like Rachel Maddow on "corporate news." We have plenty to pick and choose from. The UK's Guardian gives us US news.

We should in no way be relying on Russian State broadcast news, owned and operated by Putin's lackeys and answering directly to Putin. We now KNOW Putin interfered in our election. We suspect that Russian talent helped bring down DU on Election Day, just for fun.

What the hell was that business with CSPAN suddenly being hijacked by RT -- a cosmic joke, or Putin taunting us? CSPAN is not "corporate" anything -- it's an open window for citizens to watch our elected representatives at work. And it was slammed shut for a bit while someone thumbed his nose at us and laughed.

Wake up, people.

womanofthehills

(8,698 posts)
26. I think we need as many progressives out there as possible
Thu Jan 19, 2017, 06:25 PM
Jan 2017

If millions of American's are watching RT anyway, we might as well have some progressives on there.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
30. Nope. If they're really "progressive" they will know enough to not support Putin's propaganda outlet
Thu Jan 19, 2017, 06:44 PM
Jan 2017

No thank you.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
12. Who cares what Thom Hartmann says?
Thu Jan 19, 2017, 02:59 PM
Jan 2017

BTW, you left off an "m" in his name. You might want to edit your title.

But, Thom Hartmann is not someone I bother with. Once he started taking money from the Kremlin, he no longer interested me.

 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
13. please provide examples of Thom being a bad guy
Thu Jan 19, 2017, 02:59 PM
Jan 2017

otherwise it is all gossip. I think he is magnificent. I have been a progressive as long as he has and I protested in Berkeley 1969. You guys are making a bogie man where there is none. Listen to him and judge for yourselves....not this gossip....maybe tell us how old YOU are, also.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
20. Exactly. The worst thing I can say about him are the ads, but
Thu Jan 19, 2017, 03:58 PM
Jan 2017

He needs to stay in business. If democrats donated more to liberal media groups, he probably wouldn't have to hawk hus books, or gold, or anything else.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
25. Times have changed since 1969, jodiemarie. Thom may not be "bad" but he is in bed with the Dark Side
Thu Jan 19, 2017, 04:30 PM
Jan 2017

"In bed with" is used in the political sense, as in "Politics makes strange bedfellows." If Hartmann and the other Americans are sincere, they can certainly do better than taking a paycheck from the outfit that destroyed Clinton's campaign and gave us Trump.

cilla4progress

(24,726 posts)
14. I agree with Jody Marie here
Thu Jan 19, 2017, 03:03 PM
Jan 2017

I think people either don't do their research or aren't open to challenging their preconceived notions. I find no legitimate support for the conspiracy theories here. Hartmann has been around for a long, long time and proven his chops.

womanofthehills

(8,698 posts)
27. I like him too
Thu Jan 19, 2017, 06:34 PM
Jan 2017

I have listened to him since his Air America days and used to love his Friday segment Brunch with Bernie. Would love it if he would start Brunch with Bernie up again.

SalviaBlue

(2,916 posts)
28. Thom Hartmann is a national treasure!!
Thu Jan 19, 2017, 06:41 PM
Jan 2017

Those progressive/liberals who are dissing him obviously have not listened to him. Their decision making process as to what is propaganda is severely flawed. Oh well, their loss.

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