Not having watched MSNBC since Election Night, may I ask: WTF??

[Stinky The Clown]

Watching news on a Saturday night. No prison porn. News. Brian Williams. Serious talking heads.

I heard a word never before heard since Trump came on the political scene. The word was "LIE."

Covering his CIA visit and citing the LIE that he wasn't in feud with CIA Director Brennan or the Agency.

Covering Spicer's POW-like presser remarks and calling his facts LIES.

Jim Warren telling the tale of penning a piece today using a euphemism for the word LIE. He was shelled with email, comments and tweets telling him to use the right word to say what he meant. He said he will change his editorial style and use the word when appropriate from now on.

How long has this been going on?





Side note: at the march in DC today there was s sign taking the media to task. On the sign were Joke and MikaMouse as prime examples of our failed, biased media.

[Wounded Bear]

1. Except for the Greta hire they haven't been as bad as some here say IMHO...

Malcom Nance is a great commentator on intelligence issues.

Rachel has a dog in the fight, being a married gay woman.

I don't watch Morning Joe, but from Chris Myers to Larry O'Donnell in the evening, I can usually watch.

[madaboutharry]

26. Rachel isn't married.

She lives with her girlfriend, Susan.

[tavalon]

28. I thought they got married

Not that it matters.

[chillfactor]

2. a president should never put down the press...

it will turn even uglier as the orange one and his fall guys never know when to zip their lips. I am so enjoying today after yesterday....I have loved every minute of the marches and the commentary.

[Lucinda]

3. It flip flops...maybe it's more than just "the ratings will now come from showing the

"emperor" has no clothes on" - but it remains to be seen.

Still, I'll take some media truth where I can find it!

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

4. How long has this been going on?

Just since today when Trump was at CIA and then Sean Spicer's tantrum.

They are pissed.

Brian Williams' show was a surprise. They talked about it being time to call Trump a liar.

[apcalc]

5. I happened upon it by chance tonight.

Brian Williams was very good. Yes, they used the word LIE with Twitler...on two counts...Spicer and Twitler lying about crowd inaugural crowd size, and Twitler lying about his comments re:intelligence.

[DUgosh]

6. Brian said

His inaugural was "dwarfed" -

[KittyWampus]

7. Stinky, not only are they saying "lie" they're starting to say "unhinged".

I've heard the term "gas-lighting" repeatedly.

Brian Williams had someone on who defined gas-lighting.

[Stinky The Clown]

8. Yeah, I saw all that. It took until now to get my jaw off the floor and . . .

. . . . and post this!

[bdamomma]

16. wow they said it

gas lighting and was explained in full???

[KittyWampus]

17. Yup, and I've heard that term multiple places on cable stations.

[femmedem]

9. I think they are particularly angry and standing up after today's poor excuse for a press conference

They were accused of reporting fake news, then were lied to by the press secretary numerous times, then not allowed to ask questions. They were also told that the Administration would hold the press "accountable."

But I think, in general, the press is fighting back after Trump accused CNN of being fake news, and wouldn't take any questions from Jim Acosta. (Acosta is telling it like it is on twitter today.)

[nolabear]

10. I do believe they have found their line. And he's three feet across it.

In some ways this asshole might be a blessing. People are indeed having to look what they believe and how much they believe it. And decide if they're willing to fight.

[Blaukraut]

11. I only turned it off from noon to 2 (Kristin Welker) and 6 to 7 (Greta)

Other than those three hours, they were stellar in their coverage.

[JoeOtterbein]

12. Malcom Nance on MSNBC and Bob Baier on CNN are both the MAN!

[Maraya1969]

13. I kept thinking, "If only they talked this type of truth during the election

we wouldn't be in this shitstorm.

[Sunny05]

18. I know ... nt

[Hamlette]

21. MSNBC evening lineup has been great throughout the election

Chris Hayes, Rachel, Lawrence and even the 11 o'clock show and sometimes Chris Mathews.

I don't watch anyone I don't agree with. You say bubble, I say self preservation.

[Native]

14. Greta was horrible as expected, & it was Lawrence calling out the lies when Brian asked for comments

[dgauss]

15. I think they were also a little taken aback by the magnitude of the protests today.

It's easier, and maybe more profitable, to be truthful about what is true and what's a lie if a huge number of your audience already understands that.

[Stonepounder]

19. As Mark Twain famously said:

"Never pick a fight with a man who buys his ink by the barrel."

Trump has picked a fight with every ink barrel buyer in the world.

[TrollBuster9090]

22. Of course, there's also that other saying...

Never accept a pig's invitation to a wrestling contest. Win or lose, you'll both get covered in shit, and the pig actually LIKES that.

Still, I'm not complaining. This is a quick way for MSNBC to increase their ratings. That'll start a competition between CNN and MSNBC to see who can insult Trump more, and thus win the most viewers.

[Stonepounder]

23. Works for me.

So long as they don't have Kellyann Conway on. They even hint that she will be on, I'm gone.

[TrollBuster9090]

20. There's no more 'prison porn' on Saturday night because, apparently...

...the journalists have finally BROKEN OUT!



They're no longer living in fear that somebody might accuse them of being (gasp) 'LIBERAL' if they label modern conservatives as the bunch of crackpots and hypocrites they are.

[Hekate]

27. Gods, I hope you are right and the prison break is permanent.

[herding cats]

24. Today was my first day back in years.

I was lured in by someone telling me Spicer was about to have a poutfest for Trump over the crowd size.

I came away wondering if Trump waging war on the press may be a good thing after all? I'm not convinced yet, but I may check back more to see how this evolves.

For the record, I'm usually a newspaper (online subscriptions) person, and those have been much better lately, too!

[Hekate]

25. You and me both. I was in Los Angeles today, am both exhiliarated and utterly exhausted ....

My way of unwinding is to log in to DU and toggle back and forth between CNN and MSNBC, so I am now with Brian Williams too -- or was, now Lawrence O'Donnell is on. This is presumably all reruns, but we are 3 hours behind DC, and it was at least 7 by the time I walked in my own door.

So, yeah, WTF?

Brian W repeats himself, but the only thing I objected to was his plaintive, "Where were all these people on election day?" Dammit, WE were voting. HRC won our votes by 3 million. MY question is, "Brian, where were YOU in the Media all last year?" All last year.

Other than that quibble, this is stunning. Don Lemon and his panel, Brian Williams and his guests -- nearly all of them calling out Tinyhands on his (say the word out loud now) LIES.

SMH

[mopinko]

29. and JOY FUCKING REID.

dear god i love that woman.