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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/22/trump-inauguration-crowd-sean-spicers-claims-versus-the-evidence#img-1<snip>
White House press secretarys angry declaration that the media faked low attendance does not stack up against photos, videos and public transport figures
No one had numbers because the National Park Service, which controls the National Mall, does not put any out, he said, before going ahead anyway to declare that Trump had attracted the largest audience ever to witness an inauguration in person and in the world.
These attempts to lessen the enthusiasm for the inauguration are shameful and wrong.
Crowd estimates can be fraught with difficulty and there is indeed no official figure. But images of the National Mall on Friday contradicted Spicers assertions particularly when compared with pictures from Barack Obamas inauguration in 2009 and the turnout for the Womens March on Saturday.
Meanwhile, photographs show the National Mall packed with crowds just before Obamas inauguration in 2009 but much more sparsely covered with people just before Trumps ceremony.
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They're the laughing stock of the planet - ridicule these fucking LIARS
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)Does not site this propaganda conference as proof that there were millions of people at the innaguartion, and, instead, fights back. After all, the administration just held a conference just to call them all liars. But, given how they have been holding his hand for the last two years, I won't hold my breath.
malaise
(267,793 posts)They're calling them LIARS everywhere
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)I just woke up and haven't turned on the TV yet.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)dalton99a
(81,065 posts)Solly Mack
(90,740 posts)I enjoy thinking about all the abuse Trump heaps on those who work for him.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)That Trump had to tore him a new one for letting the press tell the truth about how pathetic his crowds were. You could tell Spicer was not having a good time at the propaganda conference.
Solly Mack
(90,740 posts)and I'm sure he got one after as well.
I hope Trump rips them a new one each and every single day.
They signed on for it.
I find it funny.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)If Trump tried to stiff them out of their pay because they didn't do a good enough job.
Solly Mack
(90,740 posts)malaise
(267,793 posts)Solly Mack
(90,740 posts)Look at all the lies about the CIA visit.
malaise
(267,793 posts)He's a dangerous fugging moron
oasis
(49,150 posts)Solly Mack
(90,740 posts)PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)and then went on to define the term. I cannot remember which of their White House correspondents Williams was interviewing but she said you could HEAR the protesters from inside the White House!
BumRushDaShow
(127,270 posts)is that there were thousands who were "trapped" in the tunnels leading to the inauguration screening areas and, seating who were unable to get in. Most notably, the "Purple Ticket holders" and eventually "Silver Ticket holders" who ended up mixed in with the doomed Purple ticket holders. So there were many more who would have appeared in the shots had they not still been trapped in line.
Vinca
(50,168 posts)Worse than that, their cult base laps it up and believes it.
malaise
(267,793 posts)There is video of real stars in 2009 - and 400,000 people to boot
SammyWinstonJack
(44,129 posts)SwissTony
(2,560 posts)If you look at the Guardian link, you'll see that the photos are scaled so that the crossways (and buildings on either side) more or less match up.
If you look at the second crossway from the bottom of the picture on the Trump photo, you'll see some (presumably temporary) buildings have been erected. Why would they erect such buildings unless they did not expect the crowd to extend that far back? And it doesn't - by a considerable measure! On the Obama photo, the crowd massively passes that crossway and also the next one. And probably some out of picture.
Can I assume the white material on the ground is some form of protection for the grass in the Mall? In the Trump photo, that protection is not present in the lowest section, but is present in the Obama photo.
Not only did they not achieve the number of attendees that Obama did, they knew it beforehand!
malaise
(267,793 posts)Not only did they not achieve the number of attendees that Obama did, they knew it beforehand!
It's all reality TV for the Con - he will learn.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)plus folks are can be low level information
SwissTony
(2,560 posts)They're being accused of lying, and the proof that they're not is right in front of them.
Edited because I should know the difference between "they're" and "their".