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Can someone define "Alternative Facts" for me? (Original Post) workinclasszero Jan 2017 OP
http://alternativefacts.com hexola Jan 2017 #1
Bullshit. Nt gollygee Jan 2017 #2
Alternative Facts equal Propaganda and Lies. skylucy Jan 2017 #3
'Lies' spanone Jan 2017 #4
THIS nt csziggy Jan 2017 #6
Yep. Keep it simple! n/t NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #17
FACT: Depeche Mode was better in the 80s than they are now. Orrex Jan 2017 #5
Made up shit malaise Jan 2017 #7
Alternative facts equals lies. catbyte Jan 2017 #8
It's the alt-fact propaganda wing C_U_L8R Jan 2017 #9
Putin Speak Frogg Jan 2017 #10
Facts that obtain in alternate universes frazzled Jan 2017 #11
Like antimatter? roamer65 Jan 2017 #28
Lies. onecaliberal Jan 2017 #12
Last night when Bagdad Bob came to the podium to let people know there were more shraby Jan 2017 #13
Stickily Lies... KentuckyWoman Jan 2017 #14
Hey who could have seen this coming with father of all lies Bannon scuttling around the White House? workinclasszero Jan 2017 #15
try the NewSpeak dictionary DBoon Jan 2017 #16
Next time you go the bathroom, after you finish, look down Drahthaardogs Jan 2017 #18
LOL workinclasszero Jan 2017 #19
A lie beachbum bob Jan 2017 #20
Alt-facts Runningdawg Jan 2017 #21
Eerie. Prescient. ALBliberal Jan 2017 #51
Merriam Webster said there is no such thing because facts are facts and alternative facts TrekLuver Jan 2017 #22
in mathematical terms....... Takket Jan 2017 #23
"Alternative facts" Jamaal510 Jan 2017 #24
LYING. roamer65 Jan 2017 #25
Specifically, Trump lies C_U_L8R Jan 2017 #26
They are for folks who live in alternative reality. logosoco Jan 2017 #27
Fucking Republican lies. SamKnause Jan 2017 #29
Lies. (n/t) Iggo Jan 2017 #30
propaganda handmade34 Jan 2017 #31
A LIE. To quote Dan Rather, "a lie is a lie is a lie". AgadorSparticus Jan 2017 #32
"Newt thinks that we shouldn't say Don, Sean, Kellyanne, and Reince live struggle4progress Jan 2017 #33
Gaslighting Donkees Jan 2017 #34
Well, teachers will no longer have to grade tests... 3catwoman3 Jan 2017 #35
Umm, I am pretty sure that is Trump speak for "Lies" smirkymonkey Jan 2017 #36
This explains it so almost anyone can understand frazzled Jan 2017 #37
Pancakes!!! longship Jan 2017 #55
The Urban Dictionary has two definitions. pnwmom Jan 2017 #38
L I E (nt) SoCalDem Jan 2017 #39
It means George Orwell's "1984" needs to be required reading in high school and college, along with Hekate Jan 2017 #40
I think we are living 1984 now workinclasszero Jan 2017 #42
Short answer - it means lies. Solly Mack Jan 2017 #41
George Orwell Quote 1984 Cha Jan 2017 #48
Yep Solly Mack Jan 2017 #58
they're fucking LIES Skittles Jan 2017 #43
Herr Dump will be the most corrupt/predatory/evil president in history workinclasszero Jan 2017 #44
George Orwell 1984.. Cha Jan 2017 #45
That nails it good Cha workinclasszero Jan 2017 #46
I just saw it over on a tweet page and came Cha Jan 2017 #47
No, because that's the whole point of it... JHB Jan 2017 #49
Fake facts. Glimmer of Hope Jan 2017 #50
It is something the deplorables will say about media itsrobert Jan 2017 #52
Well - for example JustAnotherGen Jan 2017 #53
Fact: I like your examples workinclasszero Jan 2017 #56
I don't get it either JustAnotherGen Jan 2017 #57
Same thing samplegirl Jan 2017 #54

shraby

(21,946 posts)
13. Last night when Bagdad Bob came to the podium to let people know there were more
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 03:47 PM
Jan 2017

people at the inauguration than at Obama's, I told Mr. Shraby that's what propaganda sounds like.

Runningdawg

(4,516 posts)
21. Alt-facts
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 05:57 PM
Jan 2017

"The Party told you to reject all evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
--from "Nineteen Eighty Four" by George Orwell

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
27. They are for folks who live in alternative reality.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 06:18 PM
Jan 2017

The place where people think giving taxes breaks to the rich will enrich the whole of the country.
Where cars and trucks and buses and planes have combustible engines spewing out carbon dioxide but it will have no effect to the air and water.

Those kind of "facts".

struggle4progress

(118,278 posts)
33. "Newt thinks that we shouldn't say Don, Sean, Kellyanne, and Reince live
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 07:26 PM
Jan 2017

in an alternate universe: we should just say they have alternative facts"

Donkees

(31,381 posts)
34. Gaslighting
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 07:28 PM
Jan 2017
Gaslighting is a form of manipulation through persistent denial, misdirection, contradiction, and lying in an attempt to destabilize and delegitimize a target. Its intent is to sow seeds of doubt in the targets, hoping to make them question their own memory, perception, and sanity
.

3catwoman3

(23,973 posts)
35. Well, teachers will no longer have to grade tests...
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:28 PM
Jan 2017

...if there are alternative facts. Any answer could be correct if students claim to be using alternative facts.

Why weren't there alternative facts when I was taking high school history?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
36. Umm, I am pretty sure that is Trump speak for "Lies"
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:36 PM
Jan 2017

They can spin it any way they want to, but it is still lying.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
38. The Urban Dictionary has two definitions.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 02:34 AM
Jan 2017

1) When truth is so unfavorable to a pathological liar, that they must invent a whole new category of lies to describe their nakedly intentional acts of deception.

2) A fancy way to say bullshit.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Alternative+facts

Hekate

(90,644 posts)
40. It means George Orwell's "1984" needs to be required reading in high school and college, along with
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 04:04 AM
Jan 2017

...the US Constitution.

Hint: Bannon and Kellyanne think it's a textbook, not a cautionary tale, but that's what makes it a cautionary tale.

Solly Mack

(90,762 posts)
41. Short answer - it means lies.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 04:28 AM
Jan 2017

A Trump mouthpiece said there was no such thing as facts anymore.

Trump minion

You know how too many people think their opinions are equal to facts?

Now think of that on a grand scale - where government is now saying facts not only do not exist, but now what you believe to be the truth is the truth even if facts don't support your belief, because there are no facts, just different ways of seeing the same thing. Different ways of seeing a fact.

They are taking the glass is half full/half empty perception and claiming that means since both are true, depending on how you see the water in the glass, then the crowd was 1.5 million if you believe that is what 1.5 million looks like.

So if you think a lie is the truth, then it becomes the truth because you believe it to be true. Regardless of evidence to the contrary.

The same with a fact. It will only be a fact if they agree with it.

It's a perception game.

It's a con.







 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
44. Herr Dump will be the most corrupt/predatory/evil president in history
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 06:10 AM
Jan 2017

Alternate facts: Trump will be a beloved President of the people and replace Lincoln on the five dollar bill

Thank God we are safe from Hillary's emails though.

Cha

(297,149 posts)
47. I just saw it over on a tweet page and came
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 06:23 AM
Jan 2017

here looking for a place to post it and saw your OP as well as another.

I see you and Hekate have the same idea.. it is very much 1984 and those ******* brainwashers think they're going to take a page from Orwell and pull it off on us.

I hope they get what's coming to them in the end.. sooner than later.

Thank you, working.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
49. No, because that's the whole point of it...
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 06:36 AM
Jan 2017

There is no definition, just what's in the script of The Kremlin Don Show.

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
52. It is something the deplorables will say about media
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 07:18 AM
Jan 2017

Just like they label sources like CNN and WashPost as #fakenews they will tag them with #AltFacts

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
53. Well - for example
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 08:15 AM
Jan 2017

We get to you use Alternative Money to pay our taxes


If Betsy Devos is the Sec of Education -
Children will get to use alternative answers on tests.
Example - 2 +2 = 5 will be acceptable.


Donald is an alternative to a President.

Putin is an Alternative to Donald.

See?

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
57. I don't get it either
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 01:39 PM
Jan 2017

But hey - baby fists seems to like this 'world' he is creating so I'm thinking I'm just going to go with it.

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