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Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:23 PM

Is Barron "off limits," here and elsewhere?

A couple of recent posts on Facebook have sparked outrage on the part of some, arguing that mocking Barron Drumpf is beyond the pale.

The first was a meme I remember from my own adolescence (some decades ago), regarding nude photos of one's mother. The meme was posted in response to a GIF where the First Kid did not give a high five to his mother during inauguration ceremonies.

The other is a Change.org petition aimed at NBC/Bombast over something Tweeted by a cast member of SNL.

I have yet to weigh in on either discussion.

Some would argue "sauce for the goose" -- i.e. attacks against Chelsea Clinton, the Obama girls and even the Bush daughters did not prompt such outrage while their respective dads were in office -- so Barron is fair game.

Others argue that children -- including and especially those of public figures -- should be shielded from ridicule and even "bullying" in social media.

Your thoughts, please!

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:25 PM

1. Barron is only 10. We didn't like it when they went after Jimmy Carter's daughter, Chelsea or

the Obama girls. I say leave the child alone. Now as for his siblings, the children of the corn, they are knee deep into this administration so they should be held accountable like the Con.

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Response to KewlKat (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:28 PM

7. I would aree. The poor kid is going

to have a tough time being related to Comrade Trump and the Children of the Corn.

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Response to KewlKat (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:39 AM

173. Tiffany doesnt seem to be part of his kitchen cabinet

I think she should be left alone too.

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Response to KewlKat (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:16 AM

263. +

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:26 PM

2. Yes. Nt

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:26 PM

3. Yes.

The fact that they mocked Amy Carter, Chelsea Clinton, and the Obama daughters doesn't make it right. Barron Trump might be many things, but none of those things are his doing. Ten-year-olds do not deserve cruelty because of who their parents are.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:27 PM

4. Take the high road and leave him alone. I think he is a cutie and feel sorry for him.

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Response to Glimmer of Hope (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:52 PM

117. +1

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Response to Glimmer of Hope (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 06:05 PM

254. I agree, besides I have heard rumors he may be autistic.

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Response to Wiseman32218 (Reply #254)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 09:27 PM

258. You mean the cyber bullying by people armchair diagnosing him?

 

His mother had her lawyer release a statement saying that Barron does NOT have autism. People still keep spreading the gossip and bullying, though.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:27 PM

5. let him alone. he has no control or power in any of this.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:27 PM

6. The Trump team is propagating that stuff

But even as twump mocks handicap people, I will not stoop that low.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:28 PM

8. Of course he is off limits. If he grows up to be like his brothers,

then he will deserve the scorn they deserve, but not now.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #8)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:45 PM

40. Who knows if he'll grow up like his brothers

For one thing, his father will most likely not be alive by the time he reaches his brothers' age.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:28 PM

9. Adolescents & teens should be off limits. Children Uday & Qusay's age are fair game.

 

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:29 PM

10. Off limits for criticism? Yes. Discussion of the good that his mother could do, championing autism..

.. research with her son as her raison d'etre? Entirely legitimate.

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Response to X_Digger (Reply #10)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:38 PM

26. For fuck sake the kid is NOT autistic

 

The video of him being used to imply that was taken very late at night while listening to political speeches. The kid was tired, bored and in bright lights. Seeing this idiotic rumor spread on here is disgusting and people need to fucking STOP IT!

As the parent of a child who really DOES have disabilities I find this armchair diagnosing to be beneath contempt.

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #26)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:02 PM

71. Please reread your last line and practice what you preach then

 

Because your armchair diagnosis that there is nothing wrong does the exact same thing.

Oh, and as the Carrier of the Fragile X gene and it being THE reason I decided not to have children, um, yeah, I am aware of children with disabilities in my family.

Nice try. No dice.

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #71)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:23 PM

90. His mother has publicly stated that he does NOT have Autism

 

She would know that information better than those speculating. His mother has made it very clear that this speculation is unwelcome and hurtful and has caused bullying.

If that is not enough to make you STOP then you really had ought to re-evaluate your motivation.

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #90)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:35 PM

99. His mother is a proven liar...we have been through this

 

Practice what you preach

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #99)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:36 PM

100. Anyone who won't leave Barron alone is a bully

 

Anyone spreading rumors about a child is a bully.

Armchair diagnosing a child is spreading rumors.

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #100)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:45 PM

112. Practice what you preach about armchair diagnosing. Apparently, his father called him a retard

 

Mad? Get mad. Stay mad. Not my words.

Please stop armchair diagnosing this boy. You make this attempt to have it both ways, and I don't think you even realize that YOU are the one ultimately being hurtful to the special needs community.

Your insistence upon armchair diagnosing there is nothing wrong is hypocritical to a large degree...and then your demanding that this is bullying implies there is something wrong with special needs people.

It's gross. Please stop it.

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #112)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:10 PM

124. this post is straight-up trolling

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Response to melman (Reply #124)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:44 PM

133. Oh *THERE* you are

 

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Response to melman (Reply #124)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:59 PM

247. Yeah it is.. not even good trolling...

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #112)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 05:20 AM

190. And his father

is number one asshole.

Do you really want to be number 2?

Leave the kid and speculation about the kid alone! Good god!

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #112)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 06:15 AM

193. That is a ridiculous claim

"YOU are the one ultimately being hurtful to the special needs community"

What a hurtful, self-righteous, evidence-free, load of bullshit attack on a fellow DUer.

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #112)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:55 AM

222. FFS, do you not even know what "armchair diagnosing" IS?

It's trying to assign a diagnosis to someone when you have no personal knowledge. "Normal" is NOT an armchair diagnosis, unless people actually close to the person are saying they *do* have a medical problem or a disability and you're suggesting it's fake. And in this case his mother, proven liar or not, says he doesn't have autism.

And I, too, have immediate family with disabilities including autism itself. So don't go all "You don't know about it" on me, either.

Practice what YOU preach.

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #100)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:48 PM

115. That is a pretty valid point. I can see doing that without the intent of malice, but while shame

 


should have no association to autism, the reality is different, and what's out in the world could almost certainly enter into the child's space and cause harm.

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Response to JCanete (Reply #115)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:20 AM

200. I believe that there is some intent of malice, unfortunately

 

The same few people keep repeating the same falsehoods on this site, even after people have pointed out that what they are saying is not true. They bring up some random facebook page with offensive things posted on it that is obviously not the child's page. But you have to wonder...why on earth would an ADULT go searching for a 10 year old child online? Everyone knows those videos of that boy they are using as "evidence" were taken very late at night when any kid would be rubbing their eyes and be tired. No 10 year old is interested in political speeches...it's boring to them.

So now we have people here who believe they are entitled to know everything about this child, including his private medical history. It's very disturbing. There is absolutely nothing wrong with anyone having a disbility. I am the mother of a child with disabilities. There IS something seriously wrong with gossiping and spreading rumors about a kid that the person does not even know. It's mean spirited and there is NEVER an honorable intent when someone does that. After having been the target of someone who uses "concern" as a way to sabotage, smear and undermine and spread hateful, false and viscous gossip...I can spot that crap a mile away. This is done by someone who wants to come across as being innocent of being nasty and mean while still going after someone in a sneaky way. It's disgusting. That's why I'm sticking up for Barron. I would do the same for the child of anyone here if they were being targeted in the same way. It's unacceptable.

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #100)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 02:32 AM

180. Leave the boy alone. It was cruel what Rush Limbaugh did

to Amy Carter and Chealsea. The whole RW media did it, and with the the Obama girls too. Their faces and scandals and photos were on the cover of the great bastion, The National Enquier. Howard Stern also did.
Even with Sarah Palin's kids, it was the lowest denigrating, and I can't stand S Palin. It must have been the most boring 3 days for a 10 year old. His father has not seemed to have much to do with him, and he probably doesn't even know his father . If when kids grow up and inset themselves in the political process, like Ivanka, Jared, Thing 1 and Thing 2, it is then a different story . They have jumped in the fray, and all is fair Gane.

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #26)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:33 AM

211. I agree with you

for a multitude of reasons, number one being that it is unkind and impolite to mention a person's (possible) disability until you have been told by that person or her parents that she is disabled. For argument's sake, say the child does have autism. Does anyone really think that parents with high visibility and plenty of money wouldn't be dealing with it as they see fit? If a First Lady wants to take on a cause, that's up to her. We can suggest causes, sure, but not causes we think she should espouse because we think the cause affects her family, when she has not indicated that it does.

Number two being that labeling a kid without any--repeat *any* access to medical or psychological information--with a serious disorder (which the mother has denied he has) just because the kid is in the public spotlight is beyond unkind and impolite--it's unfeeling, bullying and cruel.

And yes, I think Barron is off-limits. Tiffany, no, but Barron, yes.

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Response to cyclonefence (Reply #211)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:43 AM

217. Thank you

 

My child was diagnosed with more than one disability around the same age. It was difficult enough for her to understand and adjust to without everyone else knowing. I saw her self esteem go from very high and her being a happy child to falling apart...even with everything being private. She eventually shared her disabilities with friends and classmates...on HER terms, when SHE was ready. There has still been bullying and immense pain, including additional depression and anxiety because of those disabilities.

That poor kid is going to deal with enough simply because of who his father is and the BS he will be exposed to. The LAST thing he needs is to search his name online and read some of the bullshit posted about him. Until people have been scared that your own child will end their life over bullying you don't understand. I've been there and I will NOT sit back and watch this nonsense without speaking up.

The people on this thread who think it's OK to say shit about Barron Trump are disgusting and if they said this shit around me in person I'd punch them right in their big, obnoxious, hateful mouths. Kids are OFF LIMITS, no exceptions.

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #217)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:04 AM

223. I also have a daughter with a disability

and ironically I have the opposite problem. My child looks perfect; she is beautiful and smiling and walks well. People who don't know her speak to her and are very surprised when they get babble and drool back.

I'm very sorry that your daughter and your family had to go through this.

What astounds me about people posting shit about Barron is the same thing that astounded me by the people I know when our daughter's disability was first diagnosed. Do people not understand that we all are doing the very best we can for our kids? That we know far more about our child and her disability than they do? That we seek out the best medical guidance for how to treat our child? Given the Trumps' resources it's insane to suggest that if their son had a disability they wouldn't do anything about it. And that what they do or do not do about their minor child's health is none of our fucking business.

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Response to cyclonefence (Reply #223)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:28 AM

230. I agree

 

My daughter's disabilities are not obvious. By that I mean that even though she has symptoms that are very obvious, most people don't realize she cannot help those symptoms. A couple of relatives actually implied to her that they didn't think she had the things she was diagnosed with. That was very hurtful because it made her feel ashamed and confused and it undermined me as her parent.

I'm really shocked the way some people think it's OK to gossip and speculate about a child. It's not like Trump hasn't given everyone plenty of things to attack him over. The boys mom says he doesn't have autism. She would know best. Anything he does or does not have has absolutely no bearing on my life or anything of importance to this country.

I really wish the admins would ban this subject once and for all. It's not OK and it makes the site look very bad for allowing it.

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #26)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 04:27 PM

252. Do not make assumptions that he is not.

I am quite serious about this.

I understand that you have a child with a disability. I have a VERY close friend who has met Barron on a couple occasions.

Said friend has a Trump grandchild in his class.

I ask you to please not dismiss that Barron may very be autistic.

My nephew is autistic. Autism should not be dismissed.

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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #252)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 05:05 PM

253. His mother, through her attorney officially stated he is NOT

 

So, unless you are a licensed medical professional who has examined him and have access to his medical history then you are NOT qualified to diagnose anyone.

The family says he is NOT autistic, so unless someone provides PROOF that he is then the subject is closed. Barron is NOT autistic.

I don't give a rat's ass what friend of a friend of a friend knows whose grandchild in passing.

Leave the kid ALONE.

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #253)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 06:11 PM

255. How about you providing proof, I stated truth.

and you are just being a really mean person.

What I know, I will not present because I respect the people I know.

I diagnosed nothing. I also never said my friend was a friend, so chill out and stop being a jerk.

We agree, leave the kid alone. Why do you think its ok to talk to me is such a shitty manner?

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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #255)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 09:35 PM

259. Here is the statement by Melania's lawyer on this topic

 

This law firm represents First Lady-elect Melania Trump and her 10-year-old son, Barron Trump. A video was posted at YouTube recently speculating that Barron might be autistic. He is not. The video includes the hashtag “StopTheBullying” but yet the video itself is bullying by making false statements and speculation about a 10-year old boy for the purpose of harassing him and his parents. The online bullying of children, including Barron Trump, should end now.


http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8383175/melania-trump-barron-trump-video-lawsuit/


Mean people spread gossip about 10 year old children.

I'm defending an innocent child from bullying. Gossiping IS bullying. Stop it. The family has made an official statement that Barron is not autistic so stop insisting that he is...unless you provide a medical license and proof you are his doctor.

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #259)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:17 PM

261. So am I.

Get it straight and STOP accusing me of something I never said.

Maybe you should go back and read what I wrote and sit down.

Seriously, sit down.



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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:29 PM

11. Yes

If he's under 18

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:29 PM

12. I haven't seen anyone attacking Barron. And those who speculated whether he is autistic

 

are not attacking him.

Only an assh*le would think being autistic was bad.

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #12)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:41 PM

31. Yes, they are...they are spreading fake stories and rumors

 

That are extremely HURTFUL to a child. My child was about his age when diagnosed with several disabilities. She immediately became depressed, got picked on, her self esteem went into the toilet and she has gone through periods of being suicidal over the past 7 years.

Fucking leave the kid ALONE....NOW.

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #31)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:42 PM

33. Nonsense. People with autistic children speculating isn't spreading fake news.

 

You are entitled to your opinion as are the other parents I've seen commenting in a few places. NONE of whom are 'attacking' Barron.

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #33)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:46 PM

41. His mother is suing over the rumor and says he does NOT have autism

 

There, mystery solved. Now you can stop with the armchair diagnosing of people you don't even know.

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #41)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:03 PM

73. His mother lies a lot. That is just a proven fact

 

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #73)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:29 PM

93. Why do you feel compelled to go after a child after being asked by his mother to stop?

 

What did a 10 year old child do to you?

ANYONE who refuses to leave a child alone is just as bad as Trump.

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #93)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:34 PM

98. Stop getting ahead of yourself...I am not going after a 10 year old

 

I am asking the relevant question as to whether he is or is not a special needs child. If he is, I do feel that we have a right to know.

Actually, if he isn't, I feel the same way.

But Mama's a liar, and we both know it, so...

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #98)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:38 PM

101. Going after a parent by using their child is still bullying

 

Stop it.

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #101)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:40 PM

104. Bullshit. Going after someone and not practicing what YOU preach is.

 

Stop it.

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #104)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:42 PM

108. If your beef is with the parents then talk about the parents

 

And stop bringing an innocent child into it. He's not your business.

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #108)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:59 PM

146. as long as you practice what you preach about arm cahir diagnosing

 

It is *dangerous* for you to imply that nothing is wrong with him.

please stop it

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #146)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:24 AM

203. Please provide proof of your medical degree and that Barron is your patient

 

Otherwise you are in no position to know anything about his medical history and need to stfu.

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #98)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:58 PM

144. The public has no "right" to know the details of anyone else's child's health status

Just stop

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Response to Hekate (Reply #144)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 02:03 AM

177. +1

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Response to Hekate (Reply #144)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 02:42 AM

182. ...



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Response to Hekate (Reply #144)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:25 AM

204. I don't understand why an adult is so obsessed with this child

 

They need to just let it go and leave him alone.

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #204)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:02 PM

236. One wonders. We also have a contingent of DUers who wanted the Obama girls to go to public school

...in D.C., security be damned. They were capable of going on self-righteously for days about it. (In the end it turned out they were among those who hated everything about President Obama anyway, because he threw us all under the bus. Go figure.)

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Response to Hekate (Reply #236)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:17 PM

241. That's nuts

 

It seems that I see that kind of stuff coming from people who don't have children. Sometimes this place really makes me shake my head as much as I shake it from stuff I see on the other side, lol.

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #98)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 05:22 AM

191. Why do we have a right to know?

Leave the kid alone!

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #33)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:56 PM

55. I believe he is autistic and my child is autistic

 

I see nothing wrong wth it. My daughter is wonderful and funny. I'm sure Barron is awesome as well.

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Response to jonno99 (Reply #127)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:44 PM

134. And we can agree that it would be fine to go after an adult the same way

 

SNL used to go after the blind governor of NY for his disability. It had nothing to do with his ability to work. He was a person of color and a great example. I am sure that blind people were offended. But he was an adult, so was fine.

But even SNL would never go after a blind kid.


https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=XKNNVVJM6aQ

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Response to jonno99 (Reply #127)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:11 PM

151. Wow. One whole example. An OP for one whole example. That was deleted.

 

Because apparently the person who wrote it thought better of it.

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #151)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:34 AM

171. You asked for an example - I gave you one. Why loose your sarcasm on me? If you

weren't really interested - don't ask the question.

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Response to jonno99 (Reply #171)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:16 AM

198. Because the rightwing is making this into a big deal and you have the nerve

 

to pretend they have a valid point by dredging up a singular example. That was deleted.

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #198)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:08 AM

224. I think it's a big deal

To imply, even sarcastically, that someone is as unbalanced/unpredictable/violent as the Columbine killers is abhorrent. Do you think he, or his friends, didn't get wind of that tweet?

Deleting stupid shit after it's been blasted all over the planet isn't good enough. People need to think BEFORE they do stupid shit.

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #198)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:01 PM

235. Perhaps if (like me) you had a kid of similar age with emotional issues you'd feel differently.

Why you'd make excuses for this sort of abhorrent behavior - even a singular event - I find troubling.

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Response to jonno99 (Reply #235)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:48 PM

245. I'm not making excuses. You have no right to accuse me of doing that.

 

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:29 PM

13. He's an innocent child.

It is not his fault his father is a lying corrupt psychopath.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:30 PM

14. yes he should be, but none of it is near as ugly as the attacks on Chelsea Clinton so they are

 

hypocrites and trying to make it as if it 's some huge thing that is happening when that is not the case.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #14)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:14 PM

84. That doesn't surprise me.

And one complaint I've seen (about ppl supposedly being negative toward this child) seemed to be accusing those who speak up for others' rights but not caring about Barron's rights. I know of NO such cases.

But my other cmment somewhere in this thread is in context of actual negatives said about him -- if, in fact, those things have been said.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:30 PM

15. Either we are all in or all out

 

I err on the side of good personally.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:31 PM

16. BTW, Barron has a Facebook page with racist crap on it. He's too young to have a Facebook

 

page. His own father or Bannon is using him for political reasons. Which is disgusting.

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #16)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:33 PM

19. It's not's Barron personal page, its a Fan Page..

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Response to HipChick (Reply #19)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:42 PM

36. Started by? Bannon?

 

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #36)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:47 PM

42. Nope...not necessarily...anyone can start a Fan Page..

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #16)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:42 PM

35. Really? Because no one ever put up a fake facebook page to bully/impersonate anyone else

 

Leave.him.alone

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #35)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:43 PM

38. Re-read my post. I have seen no one attacking Barron and the idea people are is rightwing

 

bullsh*t.

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #38)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:52 PM

49. Oh bullshit, you are spreading lies right here

 

Implying that he created a facebook page with hate posts and insinuating he's autistic. Why do you even need to mention him? What the hell did that kid do to you?

Just stop talking about him and focus on something that doesn't make you look like a jerk.

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #49)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:53 PM

51. I didn't imply he created a facebook page nor did I insinuate he's autistic. I HAVE seen righwingers

 

complaining about Barron getting attacked when I haven't seen any of it.

The OP is incredibly vague. And the OP'er has curiously disappeared.

And please stop mischaracterizing what I post here.

Open your eyes, the OP'er posts vague rightwing bullsh*t about Democrats attacking Barron and then leaves.

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #51)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:21 PM

89. There's 4 other trump kids to criticize

 

Everyone is only asking to not criticize one.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #89)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:26 PM

91. Not one poster here has crticized Baron Trump, yeoman6987.

And the poster you responded to didn't either. So what the hell are you talking about? Don't like your insinuation.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:31 PM

17. Please. Let's leave the kids alone.

Or we are no better than them.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:33 PM

18. Yes

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:34 PM

20. Off limits to criticism? Of course. What would one criticize?

 

His choice of lunch box or his favorite super hero?

People need to get a life. Attacking children is for losers.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:35 PM

21. Teasing, picking on, making fun of or targeting a 10 year old is bullying, period.

 

The fact that any adults even consider in engaging in such disgusting behavior puts them on the same level as Trump, imo.

I think the site should not only make that kind of thing off limits, but also a ban-worthy offense.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:35 PM

22. Barron should be off limits. He is a child. Leave him alone, here and on other sites as well.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:35 PM

23. Unless you can control the internet and it's denizens

I would say that's an impossible task..

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Response to HipChick (Reply #23)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 01:49 AM

174. OTOH, we can control what is and is not acceptable in this community.

Community standard at DU is to leave the kids of politicians alone until they are adults. I am glad for that.

As for Barron's health, someone here actually said we have the right to know. We have no such right. He and his mother have the right to privacy.

However, I have appreciated the comments by DUers who have kids on the autism spectrum, but only because it is helping to provide some possible context for his affect and Melania's ultra-protective stance regarding keeping him in a familiar setting. If the speculations are true, imagine the life she leads with Barron's dad the "ubermensch."

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:37 PM

24. Barron, yes. His older siblings, OTOH, are fair game.

Last edited Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:39 AM - Edit history (2)

Barron is a minor; he's underaged.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:37 PM

25. He's 10

He's 10 now. Off limits. But when Trump children turn 12 they each hunt and kill their own unarmed homeless minority, after that he's said game.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:39 PM

27. Absolutely positively totally off limits!

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:39 PM

28. Hell, yes.

Is there REALLY any controversy about this?

Leave the poor kid alone. He may be the only member of that frightening family I actually feel sorry for.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:39 PM

29. Barron is "off limits," !

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:40 PM

30. IMO Barron is going to need a lot of help before he's an adult by sheer virtue of growing up Trump.

I'm not going to add to his misery even vicariously.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:41 PM

32. Leave

the poor kid alone. He didn't choose any of this.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:42 PM

34. Yes he should be.

He didn't ask for any of this. If he is autistic, we need to give him some extra space. I think all of the past first children would agree with that. Now the adult children who are involved in their father's administration are fair game. They put themselves in the game.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:43 PM

37. My general reply

when it comes to kids and what happened before is that I'm better than that.

I won't mock kids, no matter who's spawn they are. They all have potential to be better than the scumbags that created them.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:44 PM

39. The admins also need to ban people from speculating

 

about whether or not any children have any disabilities. That's fake concern used as a way to act like they are not attacking/bullying him.

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #39)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:51 PM

47. You are entitled to your opinion. But you're not a board nanny. I've seen a few parents w/autistic

 

kids discussing the possibility in an entirely empathetic, caring way. For you to label what other parents with autistic kids express as "fake concern" is completely inappropriate.

And having Kennedy with his bogus "vaccines cause autism" go and visit Trump is sort of curious.

You need to understand that having a disability or being on the spectrum isn't bad nor a character defect.

Furthermore, Trump's Cabinet picks and his policies will hurt autistic children in the near future.

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #47)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:58 PM

60. You have every right to discuss your own child but you have NO right

 

to speculate about an innocent 10 year old child whose mother has publicly stated the kid is NOT autistic and that he is being bullied over the damn ignorant rumors.

Again...WHY do you feel compelled to talk about a 10 year old child when his mother has publicly requested to STOP? You know it is UNWELCOME yet you persist. Why? What are you getting from this? Why do you believe it is OK to spread lies and rumors that are hurtful to an innocent child?

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #60)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:00 PM

69. I'm not talking about a 10 year old child. Stop saying I am. And if you were astute

 

you'd start wondering why the OP'er posts this rightwing meme with no proof it's actually happening to any significant degree.

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #69)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:32 PM

95. You are talking about Barron Trump, who is 10

 

There is plenty of things to go after Trump for without using his child. You don't even need to mention him yet you persist. Why? Why can't you just keep that little boy out of it?

Leave the kid alone.

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #95)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:39 PM

103. No, KittyWampus is talking about how this meme is being spread as to agitate

 

because there is no real evidence that anyone is really asking about Barron Trump being special needs.

At least, not really from our side, anyway.

Much like black bloc agitators, this shit stirring is what some on the right resort to try and put us on the defensive.

*MY* position is that I have a right to know. He is now the First Son of the USA. It's OUR business now. And not *just* because I have a right ot know either, but because this could be genetic, and a telling precursor to our President's health.





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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #103)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:43 PM

110. You have no right to know anything about that child

 

He is not your business.

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #110)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:46 PM

113. Once again....WRONG

 

Last edited Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:45 PM - Edit history (1)

He is the 1st child of the USA and he is indeed our business now.

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #113)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:59 PM

147. Based on what?

 

A 10 year old kid will have no influence on policy.

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #113)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:46 PM

165. No, he is NOT "the first child of the USA".

And NO, he is not any of your business.

By virtue of what law does a 10-year-old lose his right to privacy? By virtue of what law do the children of presidents and their spouses cease to be in the sole care/control of their parents and become YOUR business, or the business of the country?

Barron Trump is not an heir to the presidency, nor any other public office. The US is is not a medieval kingdom where the welfare of a future monarch is of concern to the masses because he is expected to ascend to the throne.

Your insistence that you have a RIGHT to know anything about him is, quite frankly, rather disturbing.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #165)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 04:11 PM

250. Thank you.

Well said.

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #113)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:14 AM

226. How much personal stuff

about Malia and Sasha Obama was "our business?" Did we have a "right to know" when they got their first periods? Or anything else?? Of course not!

This kid didn't ask for any of this, and has no choice about being part of it.

Stop speculating. Leave him alone.

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #60)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:12 PM

79. She has every right to speculate about any and every thing

 

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:47 PM

43. He's an innocent kid. Hands off, for now.

Uday, Qusay, and "Candy," are fair game.

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Response to Greybnk48 (Reply #43)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:51 PM

48. Candy?

I'm not familiar with that nickname.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Reply #48)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:58 PM

64. Nice of you to check in on your rightwing meme thread. Instead of vague insinuations

 

about how Democrats are attacking Barron, how about posting a few actual examples.

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #64)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:06 PM

75. The Change.org petition is easily searchable

No need to post a link here. (It was a right wing acquaintance who posted it on FB; I just scrolled by without liking or commenting).

The meme was drawing considerable heat from others without my help, so I likewise ignored it.

Glad to see such solidarity on a moral high ground here.

"When they go low..."

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Response to Fritz Walter (Reply #48)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:59 PM

65. It's a famous book from the 60's

about a girl who has sex with her daddy, among others. In Candy's defense, she has sex with her dad by accident. It's actually really funny, or I used to think so. It would probably offend me now, but I hope not.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:48 PM

44. It was wrong to do it to Chelsea, Sacha & Malia and it's wrong to do it to Barron

I know their side probably deserves it but the little boy doesn't and I myself can't and won't do it. The adult animal murderers Don Jr. & Eric are fair game though IMO.

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Response to Raine (Reply #44)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:49 PM

45. ivanka is fair game also

 

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Response to JI7 (Reply #45)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:56 PM

58. Yes, absolutely. I meant to mention her too and so is Tiffany if she puts herself out there. nt

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:51 PM

46. Children are always off limits

Always

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:52 PM

50. Doing it is wrong. He doesn't need society helping him turn into a sociopath.

If he becomes one, let it be his parents' fault.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:54 PM

52. Yes. He's off limits. He's not responsible for anything but being a little boy.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:54 PM

53. He is off limits

 

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:56 PM

54. Yes

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:56 PM

56. Yes, off limits. n/t

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:56 PM

57. He's a child

Why any adult would want to pick on a child is something I don't understand and would never condone.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:57 PM

59. Barron will be just fine regardless..

as Dems, we have plenty other issues that we should be worrying about..this is why we stay losing..

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:58 PM

61. Barron is NOT fair game...

Leave the kid alone.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:58 PM

62. Minor children should be off limits. They are innocent and have no control, can't vote, have

limited (if any) influence, and can't help who they were born to, etc. Adult children who are meddling are not off limits.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:58 PM

63. Off limits...nt

Sid

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:59 PM

66. Only that if he has a mental incapacity, it could be a teaching moment

 

and I sort of feel like I have a right to know

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #66)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:50 PM

136. HIPAA?

You don't have a right to know.

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Response to trixie2 (Reply #136)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:52 PM

138. Sorry sweets, but he is OUR public figure now

 

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #138)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:59 PM

145. So his rights may be violated?

That is some sick talk about a child.

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #138)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:32 PM

161. No, he is NOT your public figure.

He is a minor, and the child of his parents. Your declaration that a 10-year-old child is somehow a public figure is beyond ludicrous.

Since when is any child a "public figure" by virtue of who their parents are? You don't have any right whatsoever to know anything about this child - and I am utterly astounded that anyone would make such an argument.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #161)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 01:52 AM

176. Plus a million, Nance. This line of reasoning is appalling. He's not an object.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #161)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 02:12 AM

179. Well stated!

There are lines of civility that have to be drawn. Unfortunately a few DUers are so hell bent on Trump's downfall that they have convinced themselves that anything or anyone is fair game. This argument that a 10 year old is fair game because he's a public figure is beyond the pale.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #161)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:30 AM

209. You are 100% right, period

 

It's absolutely disgusting the way a few people on this site feel so compelled to go after a little kid. They should worry about their own issues and leave that kid alone.

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #66)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 03:08 AM

184. Here's a "teaching moment" for you ...

YOU are not qualified to decide whether a 10-yr-old child has a "mental incapacity", nor do you have any right to know.

This is a human being we're discussing here - a minor child; he is NOT your guinea pig to be used to educate you or anyone else about anything.

You "sort of feel like you have a right to know"? To know exactly WHAT, and on what basis? Is Barron Trump about to dictate foreign policy, or influence domestic legislation? If not, you have NO BUSINESS knowing anything about him.

Jesus Hussein Christ - I can't believe this is actually being discussed in terms of "I have a right to know" where a ten-year-old child is at - mentally, emotionally, intellectually - because it might serve as a "teaching moment".

If you are in need of a "teaching moment", you might want to educate yourself as to where your "rights" end and where someone else's right to privacy begins.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #184)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:31 AM

210. +infinity

 

that is all

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #66)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 03:18 AM

186. No. You don't have a right to know.

And this is a child who should be off limits. And frankly I find your attitude all kinds of fucked up. Bullying is not ok because he happens to be related to an asshole.

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #66)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:27 AM

205. What the bloody hell is wrong with you?

 

You have ZERO rights to know ANYTHING about this child.

Leave him the fuck alone.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:59 PM

67. Even though Republicans pick on Democrats kids I will not

say anything about Barron. Now Uday and Kusay are fair game.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:00 PM

68. We've got bigger fish to fry

Going after Barron is a waste of time.

If Trump is being thin skinned about others going after Barron, then that is his issue.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:03 PM

72. Yup.

Leave the kid out of it.

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Response to brettdale (Reply #74)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:57 PM

143. I have to disagree with you big time

I won't even address your opinion of a child.

Children in general will often grow to believe what they are taught at home but some go against the grain and think for themselves. How many people on this board were brought up in a Republican household and made a sharp turn to the left? On the other side of the coin, how many children of Democrats, like Elisabeth Hesselbeck, made a sharp right turn?

I work with kids and would never dream to peg any kid at an early age.

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Response to trixie2 (Reply #143)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 01:50 AM

175. Children should be left alone

Heres hoping he wont grow up to be like his adult brothers and sisters or his dad.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:08 PM

76. If a minor, esp. that young,

then off limits. I do not know exactly what has been said about the boy. Have only seen references to negative comments about him. But a child is a child.

I have no idea what the boy's views and behaviors are or whether he -- or, instead, fans -- has/have racist things on FB ... and so forth. But for the sake of argument, even if he does (and he may not, but if), those words/behaviors reflect the adults around him.

Related to that ... Much research exists on the teen brain and how it is still forming into one's twenties. So, if he is just 10 or 11, even, then his even-younger impressionable brain has quite a ways to go.

And if, in the past, some repubs didn't care about negatives flung at Amy Carter, Chelsea Clinton, Sasha Obama, or Malia Obama, it shouldn't be yet another child pay the price.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:09 PM

77. Umm, the 10 year old is posting "groups of angry black men" memes. You know,

the "Do you think rioters and looters should lose their government assistance?" kind.

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Response to Missn-Hitch (Reply #77)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:13 PM

82. I'm sure that's not him posting that shit

 

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Response to bravenak (Reply #82)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:16 PM

87. Maybe you are right. But that is a great pic of Dad and Son.

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Response to Missn-Hitch (Reply #77)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:29 PM

94. Barron appears to have 2 FB pages

https://www.facebook.com/IAmBarronTrump/

https://www.facebook.com/Barron-Trump-437592333101930/

The I Am Barron Trump looks like it is probably either done by him or a family publicist. It is pretty tame. Just family pictures and "proud of my family" stuff. It is given the status "public figure" on FB. (As a parent, I would not allow this, even though I don't see anything inappropriate on that page)


The other one, put out by a "Baron Trump Fan Club" is very political and full of right wing stuff.

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #94)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:08 PM

122. I am sure they could pull the plug on the "fan" one. It's weird if they allow it to remain up.

Cheers.

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #94)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:56 PM

142. If it's his "fan club," it's unlikely to be him...

...although I would be more suspicious if it was his dad's "fan club."

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Response to regnaD kciN (Reply #142)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:10 PM

150. Yeah, they didn't even spell his name right on part of the fan club page's description

https://www.facebook.com/Barron-Trump-437592333101930/about/

On the About section they identify themselves as:
Baron Trump Fan Club

Because of this misspell, I don't think they are closely aligned with the Trump family.

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Response to Missn-Hitch (Reply #77)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:34 PM

97. OMG...trolls create fake social media accounts to impersonate famous people all the time

 

I can't believe people are so gullible to actually believe this crap.

Stop spreading lies. We see enough of that from Trump's team. Don't pull a Trump.

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Response to Missn-Hitch (Reply #77)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:04 PM

148. Facebook has an age limit of 13

My nephew posted at 10 and had his account turned off at Facebook, rightly so. You know darn well they "know" who this child is.

My advice: Get the heck off of Facebook, it is nothing but garbage anyways. Why do Facebook people always believe everything on it?

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:11 PM

78. This would be one of the time that we SHOULD go high when they went low. That's how we (should) roll

Kid didn't ask for any of this. Whether he's challenged or not is irrelevant, he didn't ask to be thrust into the spotlight. The older children of the corn however....well, that's a whole 'nother animal! Fair game, indeed!

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:13 PM

80. I think many of us can sympathize with coming from a crazy family.

Until he makes a public statement or does something malicious, we should give him the benefit of the doubt. If anything, he's the one person in the Trump clan that has a chance of growing up to be a decent person.

ETA: I don't know enough about Tiffany to state that she is not a decent person. Until she makes herself a public figure, she is also off limits.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:13 PM

81. Yes, off limits. Not only because we're talking

about a child (which is more than reason enough), but because we're not talking about a public figure (which means they aren't even politically interesting). I feel the same way about Mrs Trump - I have no interest in anything she does, says or wears.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:13 PM

83. He is 10 years old.

He is absolutely off limits. And I will speak out against anything that goes after him.


Ivanka, Jared, Eric, and Donald Jr are fair game because they are

1. Grownup

2. Part of their Dad's/Father-In-Laws team and are part of the nepotism.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:16 PM

85. Barron is Off Limits, Period

The other Children of the Corn are adults and are fair game IMO.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:16 PM

86. I say 17 and under is off limits. Yes, I know 16 and 17 they

are closer to adult but being a teenager about to get out on your own is very tough. When they are old enough to vote then they are old enough to praise or criticize but off limits until then.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:17 PM

88. Absolutely off limits. No question. n/t

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:27 PM

92. What, the other kids don't provide enough for fodder?

Beavis and Butthead, Uday and Qusay. Besides decency, that's my argument.

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Response to carpetbagger (Reply #92)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:41 PM

106. Apparently not...some on here would rather bully a 10 year old

 

Passing off opinions as if they are facts is nothing more than rumor mongering. It's disgusting.

They are only doing it because they know the best way to hurt a parent is by attacking their child. They are attacking Barron under the guise of concern and that's the same crap Trump would pull. It's a sad day when people on this site resort to behaving like someone they claim to hate.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:33 PM

96. Off limits

Unquestionably

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:38 PM

102. LEAVE BARRON ALONE

*HE IS A CHILD*

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:40 PM

105. No one will give a shit what I think

But he really should be in the protective custody of child services. His father called him a retard for chriss sakes!

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #105)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:42 PM

107. His father called him a retard???

 

When? Really?

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #107)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:07 PM

121. Wonkette talked about it.

http://wonkette.com/609520/tom-arnold-needs-to-release-donald-trumps-whitey-tape-right-the-hell-now

(snip)

“When the people sent it to me, it was funny,” Arnold said. “Hundreds of people have seen these. It was sort of a Christmas video they put together. He wasn’t going to be president of the United States. It was him sitting in that chair saying the N-word, saying the C-word, calling his son a retard, just being so mean to his own children. ‘Oh, this is so funny, this is this guy.’


(snip)

Also too, sidenote, which son did he call a “retard”? One of the older goons, or the younger boy Rosie O’Donnell got in trouble for suggesting is autistic? We are just curious whether Donald Trump is simply a total shit, or a total shit who is also a cruel parent.


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Response to frogmarch (Reply #121)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:27 PM

128. He punched out Junior in college

 

Never denied by Junior or Trump

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Response to HoneyBadger (Reply #128)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:53 PM

140. OMFG, really? It never ceases to amaze me

 

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #105)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:34 PM

129. You know how I can tell that you have not raised a teen

 

They call parents a lot worse than that. Their brains are not fully developed until about 25, at which time they become reasonable adults. Until then, things can and will get heated on both sides.

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Response to HoneyBadger (Reply #129)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:20 PM

156. Donald Trump is on a recording calling one of his sons, possibly Barron, a retard.

 

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #156)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:46 PM

164. I know that Tom Arnold ip address tweet

 

I suspect that the son in question is Junior

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #156)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:34 AM

212. Is that your excuse for harping on an innocent child?

 

Trump says mean things so you can go after his kid too?

Sick.

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #212)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:43 AM

216. Stop lying about me. I have not attacked Barron once, ever.

 

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #216)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:46 AM

219. You are defending speculating about him. Speculating is gossiping. Gossiping is bullying

 

By defending speculating you are defending bullying.

Bullying is attacking.

Leave him alone.

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #219)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:34 AM

232. Speculation and gossip are two wholly different words with two wholly different meanings.

Speculation and gossip are two wholly different words with two wholly different meanings... pretending otherwise doesn't make it so. That applies as well to the gossip and bullying.

Dictionaries are a great investment. Words do not mean what is most convenient to a shallow or undisciplined mind looking only to validate a bias.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #232)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:59 AM

234. Fair enough...they are just gossiping

 

People speculate about financial markets.

They gossip about people.

This talking about a 10 year old is gossip since it better fits that definition. Thanks for helping to clarify this!

gos·sip
ˈɡäsəp/
noun
1.
casual or unconstrained conversation or reports about other people, typically involving details that are not confirmed as being true.
"he became the subject of much local gossip"
synonyms: rumor(s), tittle-tattle, whispers, canards, tidbits; More
verb
1.
engage in gossip.
"they would start gossiping about her as soon as she left"
synonyms: spread rumors, spread gossip, talk, whisper, tell tales, tittle-tattle, tattle; informaldish the dirt
"she gossiped about Dean's wife"

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:43 PM

109. The perv pres gives us plenty to talk about

No need to yammer about a kid

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:44 PM

111. WOW! And thanks to all!!

This has been a very reassuring discussion, and I'm very encouraged that the DU community rises to a higher standard than what flows on Facebook and other social media platforms.

Stay strong. We're in this fight against injustice -- on many levels -- for the long haul.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:47 PM

114. We're better than Limbaugh,...

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:48 PM

116. I'd say yes, off limits

What would be the point? I don't see much need to criticise Melania either - from her words that I have seen, she seems to be ok. When we have such a large and offensive target of a president, all the real issues, and every ridiculous thing he says and does, why bother with people who haven't done anything bad, and why target kids?

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:53 PM

118. It's a no-brainer, but man I would love to know

what's going on in that kid's head. It looks like it might
be interesting. He sure is taking in information. He may be the
black sheep for all we know.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:56 PM

119. As a Parent

If you're a grown adult making fun of a child you're a P.O.S. even if his father is Donald Trump

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:03 PM

120. Actually, surprised Trump hasn't tried to exploit him so far

It's the ONLY remotely not antichrist-like thing I can say about Trump, but given that Barron appears to have some special needs issues, I'm surprised that he didn't to a humanizing Barbara Walters type interview with Barron & Melania talking about it before the election.

It's a no brainer that you leave a 10 year old kid alone. But, I wouldn't be surprised if Bannon doesn't stage someone attacking him to run stories about the inhuman evil liberals, probably at the height of Trump being under scrutiny for something.

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Response to MrPurple (Reply #120)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:24 PM

126. Remember that Hillary complimented Trump's kids

 

She would not go there

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:09 PM

123. Yes. Completely off-limits.

 

Excuse me for saying, but " duh."

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:19 PM

125. Leave minor children alone. Period. nt

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:34 PM

130. Yes

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:36 PM

131. He is 10.

This is an easy call. Leave him alone.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:41 PM

132. Absolutely off limits!

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:48 PM

135. Off limits, unless/until he decides to make it otherwise...

...which is highly unlikely at age 10, but if, say, four years from now, he's trotted out before the press to spread misinformation about his father's opponents, then he loses any immunity.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:52 PM

137. Yes

The children do not choose it, and should be protected. Barron is off limits. We are better than that!

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:53 PM

139. yes, he's 10, leave him alone.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:54 PM

141. Yes, off limits for any type of attack, bullying, etc.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:05 PM

149. Why would any adult meme a child? Somethings should be left alone

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:17 PM

152. I'm frankly appalled that such a question is even being asked. (nt)

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:17 PM

153. Until Barron takes a cabinet position...

he deserves the respect you'd show anyone's impressionable children.

"We go high." --Michelle Obama

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:19 PM

154. Nope. Children are off limits for politics unless they are both 1) grown up

2) speak publicly

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:20 PM

155. He ought to be off-limits

Young Barron ought to remain off-limits, no matter how much we may detest his papa.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:25 PM

157. Off limits

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:26 PM

158. I definitely think a 10 year old child is off limits

Barron has done nothing wrong; he was born to abominable parents but that's not his fault. All young children should be protected, including children of politicians. Once they grow up and get involved with politics and business (Donny, Eric and Ivanka) they're fair game.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:30 PM

159. We have to think of it this way...

Melania chose her path. Ivanka, and the moron brothers are ass deep (and by ass I mean their heads) in daddy's businesses and corruption.

Barron is 10. He has no self agency. He cannot choose which family he belongs to and what his father and half-siblings do. He will most likely grow up to be not so great a person, unless he is able to separate from his father's influence, but for now he is as much a victim as any other child and should be off limits.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:32 PM

160. Can I add something - THEY are promoting him a lot. I see it all over FB

I say he's off limits. They apparently don't. He has his own FB page and I've seen it shared several times today. They also are playing victim about "attacks" on him. I expect to hear him mentioned when around RW'ers.

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Response to underpants (Reply #160)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:36 AM

172. Yup, I just posted a thread about this. They're claiming Dems are attacking him

 

to drum up sympathy for Trump.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:35 PM

162. Yes he should be off limits.

 

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:45 PM

163. Attacking a 10 year old makes you look terrible.

 

Hell, I wouldn't even go after Melania or anybody else.

Who cares about his family? Don't give them celebrity status.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:05 AM

166. Yes, off limits. nt

 

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:05 AM

167. Barron's one lucky little boy, because HE has health care...

Meanwhile, his treasonous, racist, sexist, illegitimate president POS, putin-loving daddy doesn't give one damn about our kids having it, and children WILL end up dying.

Yep, Barron is one lucky little boy, and I WILL bring up how lucky HE IS vs the other 10 year old children who won't even be allowed to have just basic health care.

Other people's kids are going to die. Barron won't. His daddy will make sure Barron has the best health care.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:09 AM

168. I certainly hope so. "Tit for tat" is their tactic, not ours.

I'd prefer to make America kind again.

And that would include not involving young children in the opprobrium incurred by their parents.

firmly,
Bright

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:20 AM

169. They go low, we go high.

The child is off limits.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:33 AM

170. Of course

He is a child and I have told people to leave him alone when I see that garbage.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 02:08 AM

178. Yes, Definitely off limits.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 02:36 AM

181. Yes...

...he should be off limits. I suspect Baron will grow up to be like the others, but there is always a chance he won't - and he acts more mature than his father. The other daughter, too - as long as she stays out of the Trump mess.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 02:53 AM

183. I agree that Barron should be off limits...

However he has seemed rather unhappy to be on stage with his Dad at times.

Perhaps it's only the business of Child Protective Services.

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Response to Rollo (Reply #183)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 09:14 PM

256. NT

NT

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 03:12 AM

185. Look at it this way

It's the Trump family, not the Romanoff family, and this isn't the Bible: we don't punish children for the sins of their fathers and siblings.

Besides, any vitriol you might have wasted on Barron can be put to better use attacking his money-grubbing father, sister and brothers.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 03:39 AM

187. It's within your right to free speech

To insult or berate any person you like but keep in mind it reveals more about your character than any thing else. It's a deep personal choice.

Every man must decide whether he will walk in the light of creative altruism or in the darkness of destructive selfishness. – Martin Luther King, Jr.

Thanks for the post Fritz Walter.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 04:52 AM

188. I like this tweet in response:

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 05:09 AM

189. his older greedy spawn is more worthy.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 05:38 AM

192. Chelsea Clinton has come out in defense of Barron,

And if anyone would know how comments could hurt a child, it would be Chelsea...Rush Limbaugh once called her a "dog", another politician said she looked like "she got hit in the face by a bag of wooden nickels", a conservative publication once called for her death (yes, when she was a child) to end the "Clinton line", she has had people question who her "real father" is, even that Vince Foster was killed because he "really knew", and other suggestions were made in "jest" of other unattractive people being her real father. It was cruel and just sick.

The only thing I have heard about Barron is, that he's autistic. That's not an insult, if true, but unfortunately for him, if it is true, he's got a father who thinks making fun of the disabled is just fine. A lot of autistic children do wave their hands around in the same way as that disabled reporter, even though they don't have the same problem.

If Barron is autistic, Trump and his wife could do a lot of good by discussing it out in the open. But I have a feeling that's the last thing they would ever do, think Trump is too proud and too ignorant, and would definitely hide it.

"Chelsea Clinton defends Barron while criticizing Donald Trump" http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/chelsea-clinton-defends-barron-criticizing-donald-trump-article-1.2953147

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 06:35 AM

194. What purpose does it serve to go after a child?

There is no reason aside from malice.

My view is that kid has it bad enough with that monster for a father. No amount of money can make up for that.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 06:59 AM

195. None of the deplorables or their offspring should be off limits.

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Response to ileus (Reply #195)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:24 AM

201. Well, I guess if it makes you feel good to beat up a kid with developmental problems...

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Response to ileus (Reply #195)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:24 AM

202. Well, I guess if it makes you feel good to beat up a kid with developmental problems...

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Response to ileus (Reply #195)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:39 AM

214. Dude, at this point, I'm pretty sure you're just a troll to make DU look bad.

But go on and tell us about your AR-15 while you're at it.

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Response to ileus (Reply #195)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:07 PM

238. A lot of kids have shitty parents

Don't blame the kid.

Now if he turns out to be an asshole as an adult.. that's different.

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Response to ileus (Reply #195)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 03:38 PM

249. Ten.Years.Old.

Leave the fucking kid alone. He has no say in any of this. I found it disgusting when Repugs went after Chelsea and the Obama girls. The fact that his father's an asshole doesn't make attacking a kid alright.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 07:05 AM

196. He's 10. Of course he's off limits.

Only foaming, obsessive shitbags attack a kid just because they'll use any excuse to take potshots at the target of their bile.

Unsurprisingly, all the worst examples are from the party that Kremlin Don now leads.

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Mon Jan 23, 2017, 07:26 AM

197. Kids always be excluded....No exception

 

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:19 AM

199. Leave 10 year old kids alone, for goodness' sake.

He is not responsible for his father. He can't do anything. Just leave him alone completely.

That's what people should do. Barron is irrelevant to anything. He's just a kid.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:27 AM

206. Yes with no ifs ands or buts.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:28 AM

207. Children? Off limits. Their parent's shitty care of them? No. nt

 

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:30 AM

208. Yes!!!!

This shouldn't even be debatable

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:35 AM

213. I was highly offended when people mocked

Chelsea for being an ugly kid, for making fun of Jenna and the other Bush girl, when the Obama girls were made fun of for whatever reason. Kids don't choose their parents no matter what. I feel bad for the kid. If he grows up to be an asshole like his dad...then we can rip him.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:41 AM

215. I felt so bad for that poor kid on Friday

Why did they put him in the back of the children?? He could have walked side by side with Tiffany and then let Eric go in the rear. He's a young child and they treated him like garbage at the event. I was so sad for him.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:43 AM

218. YES

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:47 AM

220. The question doesn't merit discussion.

He is a 10-year-old boy.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:50 AM

221. As little point in mocking a 10 year old as there is in delegitimizing the Left for it.

Bad manners does not excuse bad policy.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:12 AM

225. Its allowance or denial is predicated wholly on your own character

Its allowance or denial is predicated wholly on your own character and the better angels of your nature.

There is no collective rule preventing you from doing so should you choose... primacy of civility and decency are your only obstacles.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:17 AM

227. He is only 10 years old..

That is enough for me to make a decision to not comment on a child.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:27 AM

228. The kid's biggest threat

Is from his old man. That's plenty.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:28 AM

229. There is a BIG difference between when Amy Carter

was in the White House and now. There was no Internet in those days. You could say whatever you wanted about Amy Carter, but it wasn't blasted planet-wide.

There was Internet when Chelsea was in the WH, but it wasn't nearly what it is now.

Let's face it: In 2017 any ignoramus can make his/her opinions known all over the world within seconds. It would be really, really hard to be a child of any public figure right now.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:32 AM

231. Children should be off limits

 

It does not matter that cretins have made unkind remarks about Chelsea Clinton or Sasha and Malia Obama. Mocking them was wrong and does not excuse mocking Barron Trump. Let's remember that he is only ten.

Trump's other children are a different matter, not only because they are adults, but especially because they are politically involved and an extension of the Trump administration.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:41 AM

233. Kids off limits unless he's front and center and starts 'wilding' around. For a second, when they

were walking down steps I thought he was going to grab the sword off one of the guards. but he pulled his hand back fast. He seems much better behaved 'in public' than Christies kid but you never know as the days in public eyes roll on. We don't even know how the Fathers grabbie hands will behave as the days roll on.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:05 PM

237. Trump's adult children are fair game.

This 10-year old boy should absolutely be left alone and off limits. Those who did not have narcissistic parents have little idea of how bad and life-altering things can be for the child.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:13 PM

239. I have ZERO interest in Barron. WHY is this even being discussed???

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:14 PM

240. Leave the kid alone. He's got enough problems.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:19 PM

242. Yes, he's off limits. He's a kid. Is this a serious question?

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:35 PM

243. This shouldn't even be in question

He's 10.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:38 PM

244. You need to delete this post. IT IS OFFENSIVE IN THE EXTREME.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:57 PM

246. Leave the kids alone

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 01:00 PM

248. Barron is Trump property, too young to be responsible.

Assuming responsibility is taught in that family. As he grows up, he can begin to receive criticism for his own actions--but now is too early.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 04:12 PM

251. OFF LIMITS.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 09:17 PM

257. FREE BARRON!

Barron Trump is off limits, but his parents are not for being responsible for any lack of socialization, and the sort of emotional and physical assault The Donald is noted for.

Might be time to call Child Protective Services...

FREE BARRON!

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 09:37 PM

260. I would say so, unless we think he was being mistreated and try to help him.

If we think a child is being mistreated or there should be some concerns about him, then maybe.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:25 PM

262. Yes

 

We really need to be the bigger person and leave him alone, especially with all of the bullying that occurs in this day in age.

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