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What happened to Kucinich? (Original Post) SHRED Jan 2017 OP
Who? Scurrilous Jan 2017 #1
lol, a Fox contributor. grantcart Jan 2017 #3
And, What? Cha Jan 2017 #35
Maybe the aliens put something in his head meadowlark5 Jan 2017 #2
does he keep playing "You Might Think" by The Cars? csziggy Jan 2017 #20
"great vision for our country, our people and for peace in the world" hells Jan 2017 #4
part of me would love to think this is a hack DonCoquixote Jan 2017 #5
must be time to renegotiate his Fox contract grantcart Jan 2017 #6
yeah, probably. Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #32
Jesus Christ! mrgorth Jan 2017 #7
Turncoat. democratisphere Jan 2017 #8
He went to the dark side a long time ago.. coco22 Jan 2017 #9
Dennis??? I sure would never have believed HE would have deserted us. napi21 Jan 2017 #10
Wow I had no idea Generator Jan 2017 #11
Jesse Ventura is friends with Trump JI7 Jan 2017 #13
Links? Generator Jan 2017 #16
JEsse ventura hopes Trump considers him for VP JI7 Jan 2017 #17
Yeah I found a Time article from the summer of 2016 Generator Jan 2017 #19
nothing, he is the same as he has always been JI7 Jan 2017 #12
Yep. nt DURHAM D Jan 2017 #14
what, a flake? Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #31
He was always a false prophet. onenote Jan 2017 #15
Heh. I remember when you couldn't say anything negative about Kucinich around here without getting piled on. nt NYC Liberal Jan 2017 #18
yup, he was used to beat up on democrats JI7 Jan 2017 #22
Yeah, but I did it anyway.. I didn't think he was all that. But, this Cha Jan 2017 #36
Yep. And then it was Glen Greenwald. kcr Jan 2017 #37
Here's his full post about the speech on FB oberliner Jan 2017 #21
His first mistake... SHRED Jan 2017 #23
Have you noticed his recent tweets? oberliner Jan 2017 #24
these days ? JI7 Jan 2017 #25
Good point oberliner Jan 2017 #26
Perhaps he is angling for a job with RT after his contract with Fox expires Jose Garcia Jan 2017 #61
This brand of delusional foolishness must be marganlized. joshcryer Jan 2017 #28
He's showing what other progressive Trump supporters won't. joshcryer Jan 2017 #27
please explain Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #30
Needs no explanation for me kcr Jan 2017 #33
Economic populism and populist geopolitics reigns. joshcryer Jan 2017 #56
you mean for Kucinich? But Trump isn't even a true populist. He's a faker and it's shocking Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author LanternWaste Jan 2017 #54
I was JUST going to post the same question! He's lost it. Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #29
It's one of a couple of things the plague men that overtake them. nolabels Jan 2017 #41
He never had it. NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #49
What! the hell you say Cha Jan 2017 #34
Really Dennis? Unite behind a racist, sexist, xenophobic? No thanks. Interesting but sad what has still_one Jan 2017 #38
Showing his true colors. He's just another Putin poodle. dalton99a Jan 2017 #39
Under attack by Kucinich supporters, I continued to speak out against him because I didn't BlueCaliDem Jan 2017 #40
I fell for it I'll admit SHRED Jan 2017 #44
Ahhhhh, I'd forgotten about the anti-abortion stance LisaM Jan 2017 #59
One more asshole I was right about. nt msanthrope Jan 2017 #42
That is what happens when people worship at the feet of politicians SharonClark Jan 2017 #50
Did he see the same speech that everyone else saw? The one already called the worst ever? George II Jan 2017 #43
Apparently not. SHRED Jan 2017 #46
And the CIA speech. dalton99a Jan 2017 #47
Fuck that nutjob twerp. He was never playing with a full deck nt geek tragedy Jan 2017 #45
A lot of disappointed comments on the thread...gives me hope. TrekLuver Jan 2017 #48
Dennis lets NOT MFM008 Jan 2017 #51
Jebus Crutch! MineralMan Jan 2017 #52
I was just thinking about him. herding cats Jan 2017 #53
Batshit insane Blue_Tires Jan 2017 #55
Who cares what a fox contributor has to say? Gothmog Jan 2017 #57
How embarrassing for his fans. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #60

hells

(141 posts)
4. "great vision for our country, our people and for peace in the world"
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:48 PM
Jan 2017

I think he mistakenly watched Obama's inauguration speech

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
5. part of me would love to think this is a hack
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:49 PM
Jan 2017

on the other hand, let's not forget DK took money from both Fox and Russia today.

It might be one thing if I saw a moderate Democrat warming up the Trump, but DK you were supposed to be left of the left. Even if you he Hillary's foreign policy, are you going to expect people to warm up to a guy that hates gays, endorses violence on Blacks, and as we speak is doing his best to cut funding to prevent violence against women.

If this is DK generally writing this, then may I say I am very very glad that he did not amount to much. I would love to see him say crap like this in the middle of his beloved Cleveland, a.k.a. a very clear blue spot in Ohio. As someone who is seen Cleveland Browns fans scare that hell out of many teams, I believe the scene would be a true example of what Trump called "American carnage."

coco22

(1,258 posts)
9. He went to the dark side a long time ago..
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:51 PM
Jan 2017

I saw him on Fox for a few years he's getting paid well you could tell by his attire and hair cut he is happy as hell to trash Dems.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
10. Dennis??? I sure would never have believed HE would have deserted us.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:04 PM
Jan 2017

I posted a note on his Facebook wall describing how disappointed I am in him.

Here is the addy of his Facebook if you're interested.

https://www.facebook.com/pg/denniskucinich/posts/?ref=page_internal

 

Generator

(7,770 posts)
11. Wow I had no idea
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:11 PM
Jan 2017

Also Jesse Ventura (I know many will mock him and his shit) but he used to speak truth to power. Now it's all Putin love and nary a peep about Trump being a danger. Oh and weed being the answer to everything. Did aliens come in and do something when I wasn't looking? Dennis responded to my letters back when Bush was in power and I don't even live in Ohio.

 

Generator

(7,770 posts)
16. Links?
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:21 PM
Jan 2017

I mean Clinton went to his wedding too.... so I want links of activity. Ventura was so outspoken against war and torture that I am fearing aliens or I am in another time line. Who the fuck are these people and what fucking nightmare world is this?

 

Generator

(7,770 posts)
19. Yeah I found a Time article from the summer of 2016
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:28 PM
Jan 2017

where he called him a friend but didn't agree with him and was voting for Gary Johnson. It makes me think of some comedian calling Cosby a friend-if you still do that's a problem. But he's on Putin's team so he's a traitor now in my eyes. Black and white for me.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
18. Heh. I remember when you couldn't say anything negative about Kucinich around here without getting piled on. nt
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:25 PM
Jan 2017

Cha

(296,848 posts)
36. Yeah, but I did it anyway.. I didn't think he was all that. But, this
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 09:56 AM
Jan 2017

shit is shocking.. freaking Orwell.

So many gaslighters so little time

kcr

(15,314 posts)
37. Yep. And then it was Glen Greenwald.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 09:58 AM
Jan 2017

Who still has a few staunch supporters straggling around. I don't get why these faux progressives are such a draw for some. They're like bad middle school fads, and their cliques defend them the same way. It's annoying.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
21. Here's his full post about the speech on FB
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:29 PM
Jan 2017

The Trump Inaugural Address. A Progressive Review:
There was much to object to in the Trump campaign statements, yet the 45th President, in his Inaugural Address, indicated an awareness of economic and policy concerns which needed to be said, and must be addressed.
As I reserve the right to disagree with the new President, and I will, so too do I reserve the right to agree with him.
None of the forgoing from the Trump Inaugural Address has been parsed in search of something, anything, upon which to agree for agreement’s sake. Whether or not we believe he will deliver, the following excerpts from his Inaugural echo things I worked for, continue to work for, or stated as a Mayor, Congressman, and a presidential candidate, through the decades:
1. "Rebuild our country"
We have over $3 trillion dollars of infrastructure needs unmet. This is limiting America’s ability to grow the economy.
2. "Transferring power from Washington, D.C. and giving it back to you, the American People."
Washington has aggregated tremendous power through the shift of national tax resources away from states and cities and to Washington. This is what enables the redistribution of wealth upwards.
3. "What truly matters is not which party controls our government, but whether our government is controlled by the people. Political parties have failed America."
Indisputable.
4. "Americans want great schools for their children, safe neighborhoods for their families, and good jobs for themselves."
Education, safe neighborhoods and good jobs are practical aspirations of all Americans.
5. "Mothers and children trapped in poverty in our inner cities; rusted-out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape of our nation… "
Inner cities are generally ignored in federal policy. Closed factories are the direct result of trade policies which ignored the interests of US workers.
6. "Crime and gangs and drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential."
Those who live in the inner cities, in rural areas and in some suburbs have been inundated with drugs and crime.
7. "For many decades, we’ve enriched foreign industry at the expense of American industry"
NAFTA, GATT, China Trade and other agreements have moved millions of good paying jobs out of America, weakened unions, reduced wages, cut benefits and shifted America’s wealth out of the country.
8. "Subsidized the armies of other countries …."
Our foreign military aid sends billions abroad. America subsidizes NATO, another layer of military which includes 28 member nations, then NATO keeps seeking conflict to justify its existence.
9. "And spent trillions of dollars overseas while America’s infrastructure has fallen into disrepair and decay."
The long term cost of the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and other countries will cost America at least $6 trillion, adding to the deficit and depriving our country of resources needed to rebuild America
10 "…Factories shuttered and left our shores, with not even a thought about the millions upon millions of American workers left behind."
There has been no serious discussion in the Whtie House for years concerning trade policies which left millions unemployed, and have seriously damaged our economy, in particular, the Midwest.
11. "The wealth of our middle class has been ripped from their homes and then redistributed across the entire world."
The middle class standard of life was linked to American predominance in steel, automotive, aerospace, shipping, machine shops, specialty metals, and hi-tech and as that has declined, so has the middle class.
12. "Every decision on trade, on taxes, on immigration, on foreign affairs, will be made to benefit American workers and American families."
If this measure is integrated into our decisions on international commerce, taxation and foreign affairs, it will benefit our country.
13. "We will build new roads, and highways, and bridges, and airports, and tunnels, and railways all across our wonderful nation."
This is key to rebuilding our economy, full employment, commerce, energy efficiency and our future.
14. "We will follow two simple rules: Buy American and Hire American."
American workers are trained to produce top quality products and they ought to be supported.
15. “…it is the right of all nations to put their own interests first."
This affirms the national sovereignty of all countries, which is critical if we are to avoid more wars.
16. "We do not seek to impose our way of life on anyone, but rather to let it shine as an example for everyone to follow."
American interventionism is about using military force to impose our way, and it has come at an extraordinary cost to our nation, to people in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen and other places.
If we use our nation’s resources to build America, not destroy other countries, we will indeed be an example to the world.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
24. Have you noticed his recent tweets?
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:52 PM
Jan 2017

Things like:

#WakeUpAmerica, enough of the BS re #Russia stealing election =CIA & State Dept propaganda to legitimize hostilities


Seems to be on Team Russia these days.
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
26. Good point
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 07:29 AM
Jan 2017

I had pretty much forgotten about him, but, yes, he has been a Russia fanboy for a while.

joshcryer

(62,266 posts)
28. This brand of delusional foolishness must be marganlized.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 07:46 AM
Jan 2017

We are screwed as a party if anyone believes anything Trump says and is blind to the overt racism, nationalism, xenophobia, and hatred that Trump's speech really means.

joshcryer

(62,266 posts)
27. He's showing what other progressive Trump supporters won't.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 07:37 AM
Jan 2017

Good on him for being honest with himself.

joshcryer

(62,266 posts)
56. Economic populism and populist geopolitics reigns.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 03:03 PM
Jan 2017

Above all else. Social, environmental, cultural, all else is irrelevant.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
58. you mean for Kucinich? But Trump isn't even a true populist. He's a faker and it's shocking
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 07:19 PM
Jan 2017

that Kucinich would believe that shit.

Response to joshcryer (Reply #27)

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
41. It's one of a couple of things the plague men that overtake them.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:27 AM
Jan 2017

A woman that wants her man to succeed no matter the cost will often nudge him that way.

That other one was something about Hubris

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
49. He never had it.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 01:46 PM
Jan 2017

He was always bouncing all over the place with his ideology. Honestly, I could never figure out WHAT that man believed. Still can't.

still_one

(92,061 posts)
38. Really Dennis? Unite behind a racist, sexist, xenophobic? No thanks. Interesting but sad what has
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:19 AM
Jan 2017

happened to some people

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
40. Under attack by Kucinich supporters, I continued to speak out against him because I didn't
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:27 AM
Jan 2017

trust him. Now I hope those naysayers see that he's been a faux-Liberal all this time. Lots of (loud) talk, nothing to show for it, and wasn't pro-abortion until he decided to run for prez in '04.

I can't stand that poser.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
44. I fell for it I'll admit
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:36 AM
Jan 2017

Buy I never went after fellow progressives who countered him.
At least that I can remember.

Yeah, he's a piece of work isn't he?

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
50. That is what happens when people worship at the feet of politicians
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 02:15 PM
Jan 2017

and are convinced they can do no wrong. Leftist talk is cheap, it is getting things done that matters.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
53. I was just thinking about him.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 02:27 PM
Jan 2017

There's was a lesson to be learned with Kucinich, but for the most part Democrats didn't learn it.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
55. Batshit insane
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 02:28 PM
Jan 2017

I'm sorry that I ever supported him for any political office ever, and I regret all those times I defended him here on DU...

This is beyond betrayal...

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