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I agree with his thesis. A good read.
https://shift.newco.co/https-medium-com-peteleyden-why-trumps-inauguration-is-not-the-beginning-of-an-era-but-the-end-72a86833f0a3#.um8uugcas
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)"Obamas decade of work will be seen, in the decades to come, as the truly enduring foundation. He laid the groundwork for what will certainly become the all-digital, fully global, sustainable civilization of the 21st century."
Cha
(297,154 posts)I like that.. and why not?
Arkansas Granny
(31,515 posts)before we can fix it. I hope he's right because we're facing a conflagration.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)I don't think Trump will make it more than 2 Years before we have Pence who will continue the Republican slide. The real important thing we must do is get out our entrenched corporate Establishment politicians beholden to corporate interests to fully take advantage of the anti-Republican backlash that is coming.
Fossil fuels are becoming more and more unpopular with every leak, and every corruption scandal. I believe the whole Russian/Trump connection was about the $500 billion Exxon Mobil paid to help Russia get to their oil. This on the heels of the BP oil spill, wave of fracking, and Dakota pipeline.
We must be ready to help usher in the new era!
Silver Gaia
(4,544 posts)saying we've already done at the state level what needs to, and will be, done at the national level. I can totally see that with Schwarzenegger as the no-experience, celebrity we voted in (well, *I* didn't, but...). We even called him the "Gropenfuhrer" because of sexual predator scandals about him and other things. My point is that we didn't burn California down. We won't have to burn the country down, either. People seem to be waking up quickly and the impact of the Women's March is helping with that.
get the red out
(13,462 posts)Thanks for posting.
GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)I'm going to be investing in robotics and AI stocks.
DinahMoeHum
(21,784 posts)n/t
GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)Did you know that Kiva, the robotics firm, was bought by Amazon, which now has 30K of their little robots running around warehouses picking merchandise? So there goes those warehouse jobs. Foxconn has reduced its work force in one factory by almost 50%.
What does this bode for the future? I'm not sure, but the article at the top gives some idea, as does 'Rise of the Robots: Technology and the Threat of a Jobless Future' by Martin Ford. Check out the New Yorker article by Elisabeth Kolbert in the 19 Dec 2016 edition - http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/12/19/our-automated-future
(Which is where I got the figures about Amazon, Kiva, and Foxconn).
DinahMoeHum
(21,784 posts)I have stock in a few of these companies, either stand-alone or through a mutual fund.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)But in practice, we'd have to deal with the fact that half of the electorate is too stupid and brainwashed by fascist right wing rhetoric for its own good.
GoCubsGo
(32,080 posts)I hope the guy is right, but having lived in Stupid-and-Brainwashed Central for 30+ years, my hope is fleeting.
Cha
(297,154 posts)drm604
(16,230 posts)at some point in the future the conservatives are going down; but I'm concerned about the suffering that will be occurring in the near future.
And we can't just assume that this author is right and rest on our laurels waiting for that change. We have to proceed on the assumption that positive change is not at all certain and fight for it every inch of the way.
Keep in mind that civilization could fall to war or climate change before the progressive backlash can occur.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)Was Herbert Hoover's motto.
Pursuing that philosophy created a great deal of suffering, but his inept administration ended republican control of the government for decades.
I expect it will look like that, and plenty of suffering will come along with it. Even Fox News had their fill of his nonsense, but we aren't going to get through this without a recession, and some environmental damage.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Just consider -- Destroying then ACA because millionaires and corporations don't want to pay the 3.8% surtax. That's the REAL reason they want it gone. Defunding Planned Parenthood. Selling off 645 million acres of public lands, national forests, nature preserves. Denying climate change. Privatizing the internet. Restricting minority voting rights. Refusing to raise the minimum wage or equal pay for women. All off this will simply blow up in their faces. The American people will simply not stand for it.
And that's not even taking into account whatever wars they drag us into.
As a Buddhist, I clearly believe in the law of karma. When a political party (the GOP) values the greedy pursuit of money at any cost and policies that hurt people, there are consequences. Karma is just like gravity in that it NEVER stops working.
What if it all goes like it did in the 30's?
vlyons
(10,252 posts)once the GOP destroys regulating financial markets and banks, Wall St will go right back to making risky investments in arcane financial offerings. Privatizing medicare and SSI will force lots of seniors to take reverse mortgages on their homes. Mnuchin who will head Treasury wasn't called the king of foreclosures for nothing. The worse it gets, the deeper the GOP will dig their own demise.
America is so ready for a presidential candidate, who actually preaches, teaches, and practices the Golden Rule. A candidate, who values people over money. A candidate who is basically decent and honest. Someone with a vision that the American people are good people with compassionate hearts.
Just remember that in the 1930s. FDR swept into power in 1932, and everything changed. He had a tremendous mandate, and Americans had real hope again. We started investing in infrastructure, rural electrification, CCC camps, the TVA, the Golden Gate Bridge, Hoover dam. He put people back to work again.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)When the author has no clue about the biophysics of "the economy", hasn't been following the energy and ecological news from around the planet, and hasn't been connecting the dots. It's highly unlikely that there will be a renaissance of the American economy let alone a "new 21st century civilization" in the sense he's hoping for.
It's just more feel-good jaw-jaw.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... if they burn it down if the people who don't like it votes are purged or suppressed or gerrymandered !?!!?
bucolic_frolic
(43,137 posts)These digital age guru CEO's always see the world digitally. Did he address
political power, legal frameworks? If he's right, the world that emerges depends
on how hard we fight and how much we thwart of the hard-right agenda. Let's
not think about what happens if he's wrong, though I will say the Hitler analogies
strike me as unlikely because of free flow of information globally. The 1930s
cannot play in a world of univeral awareness.
MarinCoUSA
(891 posts)n/t
N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,721 posts)Thanks.
Although we have to work toward that goal. We can't sit back and hope it happens.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)I think Americans are fed up with the corruption that we see at every level of gov.
mindfulNJ
(2,367 posts)I really do.
onenote
(42,700 posts)Four years of Trump will come with hardships, but they will be over sooner than his supporters realize. And, I believe, when they end, they will end very badly for Trump and the republicans. Assuming that Trump even decides to run again in four years, he likely will face primary opposition from Kasich, Cruz, and others. And if the Democrats can coalesce around a single candidate, they should be in position to continue, after a four year interruption, their demographically driven dominance of the presidency.
I know that on day 3 it feels like this will last forever. But think back to how long the 8 years of the Obama presidency really felt? To me, the 2009 inauguration doesn't feel that long ago (indeed, I'm old enough to feel like the first Clinton inauguration wasn't that long ago). Sure, if you're 25, four years feels like a lot. But if you're 65, its a drop in the bucket.
jannyd65
(22 posts)I have been saying this since the Trump's win-he will not only bring himself down, but he will also bring down the Republican party in the process! I believe we are seeing the end of the Republican Party as we know it (hopefully and thankfully!).
I don't know who said this during the campaign, but I think it was Republican pundit that said it would be better for the R-Party if Hillary was elected because then the Republicans can go back and regroup, and find out what the party's true platform is.
In winning at all levels, the Republicans now are in control and can no longer blame Democrats. If we and our leadership, are smart, we need to start NOW focusing on and reminding the everyone what are platform is and who we fight for!