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Would you use stolen oil? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 OP
No, especially if we bombed a bunch of innocent people to steal it. Christ, Trump is evil. Worse, Hoyt Jan 2017 #1
How would anyone know which oil is stolen? NightWatcher Jan 2017 #2
That's why I said yes yeoman6987 Jan 2017 #17
How would I know? nini Jan 2017 #3
...and you'd know the oil was stolen how? brooklynite Jan 2017 #4
The fact is we have BainsBane Jan 2017 #5
How would you know it's stolen? Crude is pumped and stored in tank farms until shipped... TreasonousBastard Jan 2017 #6
Voting yes because we wouldn't know Calculating Jan 2017 #7
Our oil is already HopeAgain Jan 2017 #8
THIS nt csziggy Jan 2017 #16
You would have no way of knowing. surrealAmerican Jan 2017 #9
Nope because even our products are made with oil. yeoman6987 Jan 2017 #18
My next car would be electric. appleannie1943 Jan 2017 #10
How does one steal oil? truebluegreen Jan 2017 #11
Invade a nation, subjugate the indigenous people, and steal their resources. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #13
Pretty much all oil on the market is such. n/t Mika Jan 2017 #15
That's just not true. Paladin Jan 2017 #19
Almost all of our domestic oil is stolen, having waivers for mineral rights under other's property. TheBlackAdder Jan 2017 #12
Reluctantly, yes supernova Jan 2017 #14
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. No, especially if we bombed a bunch of innocent people to steal it. Christ, Trump is evil. Worse,
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:25 PM
Jan 2017

the white winger who put him in office would be fine with this.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
17. That's why I said yes
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:34 PM
Jan 2017

I'm not going to lie and say no when nobody knows for sure which oil is which. It's an impossible question to answer.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
5. The fact is we have
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:27 PM
Jan 2017

The US has a long history of taking national resources from sovereign nations. That is the essence of the history of US involvement in Latin America in the 20th century.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
6. How would you know it's stolen? Crude is pumped and stored in tank farms until shipped...
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:30 PM
Jan 2017

then it's refined and held in more tank farms until shipped to ultimate users.

At each of these stages title to the oil changes, so you have maybe dozens of owners by the time you pump your gas. How do you know who stole what?

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
7. Voting yes because we wouldn't know
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:32 PM
Jan 2017

The oil is all mixed together anyway. We'd all be using it, even if we didn't want to. Oil isn't like food where you can only buy "Certified fair trade oil" or whatever.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
8. Our oil is already
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:32 PM
Jan 2017

so tainted with the blood of our natural world, middle eastern peace, our workers and our climate that there's plenty of reason to not use so much as it is. For example, the Saudi elites steal their natural resources for the sole benefit of themselves as we speak, and commit civil rights atrocities with impunity because nobody wants to lose their oil.

By the way, it's not like fruit, oil never comes with a tag saying where it is from.

surrealAmerican

(11,360 posts)
9. You would have no way of knowing.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:33 PM
Jan 2017

Unless you boycott all oil if there exists any that was stolen, you will. Would a boycott even be possible?

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
11. How does one steal oil?
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:42 PM
Jan 2017

It is not as if we could make a quick in-and-out raid and run off with it.

So the whole question (and Cheeto's asinine idea) is nonsensical.

The real question is "Are we willing to invade Iraq (or anywhere), wage war and stay for decades in order to control Iraq's oil?" We tried that once and it didn't work too well.

Paladin

(28,252 posts)
19. That's just not true.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:46 PM
Jan 2017

The governments of the explored countries make billions off of the exploration efforts of countries like the U.S., Great Britain, France, Italy, et al. The people in those nations see little if any of the wealth, other than the social services which may (or may not) result from it---the U.S. is one of the very few countries with a common law basis for private citizens' ownership of oil and gas underneath their properties.

The notion that we can simply invade a country and take its oil is just more of trump's ignorant fantasizing. He's got a hell of a lot to learn about the energy biz; no surprise, there.....

supernova

(39,345 posts)
14. Reluctantly, yes
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:54 PM
Jan 2017

Last edited Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:27 PM - Edit history (1)

Because that's the most honest answer.

As others have pointed out, it's all stolen from somewhere. When any of us pull up to the gas pump, we have no idea about the origin. There is no "estate bottled" or "country of origin" label at the pump.

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