Tue Jan 24, 2017, 04:16 PM
Farmgirl1961 (1,463 posts)
ENOUGH ALREADY
All of here at DU have known for a long time what a horrible human being Donald J. Trump is. The rest of the electorate (except for the minority holdouts) are beginning to open up their eyes that Trump is on his way to destroying us. We MUST demand that politicians, who we elect, do their job and get this madman out of the White House ASAP. We must not stand idly by. I suppose what that means for all of us is jamming the phone lines to our Senators and Congress people, requesting they do what they can to get this man indicted and impeached.
It means we need to march in the streets on a very regular basis. We need to make a lot of noise and we need to revolt. This cannot stand.
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Farmgirl1961 | Jan 2017 | OP |
still_one | Jan 2017 | #1 | |
Va Lefty | Jan 2017 | #4 | |
still_one | Jan 2017 | #10 | |
rzemanfl | Jan 2017 | #2 | |
guillaumeb | Jan 2017 | #3 | |
Farmgirl1961 | Jan 2017 | #6 | |
guillaumeb | Jan 2017 | #9 | |
triron | Jan 2017 | #11 | |
still_one | Jan 2017 | #13 | |
guillaumeb | Jan 2017 | #17 | |
still_one | Jan 2017 | #26 | |
guillaumeb | Jan 2017 | #28 | |
still_one | Jan 2017 | #29 | |
Turn CO Blue | Jan 2017 | #14 | |
guillaumeb | Jan 2017 | #19 | |
Turn CO Blue | Jan 2017 | #20 | |
guillaumeb | Jan 2017 | #21 | |
triron | Jan 2017 | #22 | |
guillaumeb | Jan 2017 | #23 | |
Turn CO Blue | Jan 2017 | #24 | |
guillaumeb | Jan 2017 | #27 | |
LanternWaste | Jan 2017 | #16 | |
guillaumeb | Jan 2017 | #18 | |
Tommy_Carcetti | Jan 2017 | #25 | |
asiliveandbreathe | Jan 2017 | #5 | |
Eleanors38 | Jan 2017 | #7 | |
Wellstone ruled | Jan 2017 | #8 | |
maxrandb | Jan 2017 | #12 | |
still_one | Jan 2017 | #15 |
Response to Farmgirl1961 (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 04:18 PM
still_one (87,922 posts)
1. It also needs to been done in the first year before he starts stacking the courts
Response to still_one (Reply #1)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 04:21 PM
Va Lefty (6,251 posts)
4. Then Pence could pack the courts
See below response. We are fucked!
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Response to Va Lefty (Reply #4)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 04:26 PM
still_one (87,922 posts)
10. First it will delay thing. Delay is good, less damage. While Pence would become next in line, that
is NOT a reason to try to get trump removed if he has done an impeachable offense. He also might be able to be removed through the 25th amendment without going through impeachment
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Response to Farmgirl1961 (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 04:18 PM
rzemanfl (29,178 posts)
2. K&R n/t
Response to Farmgirl1961 (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 04:19 PM
guillaumeb (42,641 posts)
3. All hail Theocrat in Chief Mike Pence?
Would Pence really be preferable?
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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #3)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 04:21 PM
Farmgirl1961 (1,463 posts)
6. No - but Trump is insane
The entire election, including POTUS, VP and cabinet members are all part of the rig.
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Response to Farmgirl1961 (Reply #6)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 04:23 PM
guillaumeb (42,641 posts)
9. And they enable and validate his insanity by pretending that he is "normal".
And the media is also complicit for the billions in free and uncritical publicity that Trump received.
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Response to Farmgirl1961 (Reply #6)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 04:26 PM
triron (21,089 posts)
11. I already told my senators Trump is a traitor.
I got no response from them. And they are democrats. Wimps
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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #3)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 04:30 PM
still_one (87,922 posts)
13. It isn't a question of whether Pence is preferable. Is trump involved activities where he should be
impeached? Is he mentally fit to be President? If not, the 25th amendment might be able to remove him.
My point is, any of those thing would create a delay in their destructive agenda. Delay is good. Less damage |
Response to still_one (Reply #13)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 05:30 PM
guillaumeb (42,641 posts)
17. Trump is a crude distraction from the GOP agenda.
Pence, by contrast, gives the appearance of normalcy. But Pence is a modern GOP politician who cannot compromise. Either way, the GOP is in charge.
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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #17)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 05:57 PM
still_one (87,922 posts)
26. I disagree. He is not a distraction. He is just as destructive as any republican as
Last edited Tue Jan 24, 2017, 07:28 PM - Edit history (1) evidenced by his appointments and executive actions
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Response to still_one (Reply #26)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 06:03 PM
guillaumeb (42,641 posts)
28. By distraction I meant his tweets and behavior.
And yes, his actions are pure GOP behavior.
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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #3)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 04:31 PM
Turn CO Blue (4,221 posts)
14. The question before us, when measuring two insane people, is - who is the least insane?
In my view, I think Pence is the least insane of the two. Religious zealotry is more focused; Trump is inconsistent, vicious, vengeful, impulsive, explosive, illiterate and forgetful. More urgently, I don't think anyone or anything can control him, not even Ivanka or Putin. Not even his love of money. I think we lose a lot of rights and progressive ground in the US including economic recession with Pence, but I am more concerned with Trump we get a depression at the best hope and WWIII at best guess, and nuclear winter as an outside possibility. Just my take. |
Response to Turn CO Blue (Reply #14)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 05:33 PM
guillaumeb (42,641 posts)
19. Either way the people lose.
So it is a matter of style over substance.
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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #19)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 05:45 PM
Turn CO Blue (4,221 posts)
20. Yes, the people lose either way. But nuclear winter is worse. Every living thing irradiated or dead.
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Response to Turn CO Blue (Reply #20)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 05:46 PM
guillaumeb (42,641 posts)
21. If one believes that Trump would truly use nuclear weapons.
I do not. Nothing suggests that he would ever do anything to endanger himself.
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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #21)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 05:48 PM
triron (21,089 posts)
22. you are joking, no?
Response to triron (Reply #22)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 05:51 PM
guillaumeb (42,641 posts)
23. Not at all. Trump is a coward, and I do not believe he would
do anything to endanger himself or his lifestyle.
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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #21)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 05:56 PM
Turn CO Blue (4,221 posts)
24. I don't know what an power-mad germaphobe with impulse control and explosive outbursts will do
I just know that he has access to a luxury bunker for himself and a couple of thousand of his friends, with enough supplies for hundreds of years. But you are correct, I am being hyperbolic and pessimistic and slightly irrational -- and that is truly NOT my normal personality setting. It's not that he surprises me each day; it's that I'm more disgusted each day. |
Response to Turn CO Blue (Reply #24)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 06:01 PM
guillaumeb (42,641 posts)
27. The entire situation is disgusting.
As is the fact that 41% of registered voters could not be bothered to vote.
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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #3)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 04:34 PM
LanternWaste (37,748 posts)
16. Propping up one idiot to protect us from another idiot is a weak justification.
Propping up one idiot to protect us from another idiot is a weak justification.
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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #16)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 05:32 PM
guillaumeb (42,641 posts)
18. I am not suggesting supporting Trump in any way.
But I feel that Pence is the price Trump paid for GOP support. With either one the GOP agenda will be promoted.
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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #3)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 05:57 PM
Tommy_Carcetti (42,263 posts)
25. Sadly, in terms of degree, yes.
He'd be less volatile to start an international incident, and he'd also be tainted by association to Trump so that hobble him.
Neither is preferable, but President Pence is like being bit by a Copperhead. President Trump is like being bitten by a Black Mamba. Both are dangerous and can cause damage, but one is much more serious than the other. |
Response to Farmgirl1961 (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 04:21 PM
asiliveandbreathe (7,765 posts)
5. Preachin' to the choir..we know how bad his is..how complicit the congress is -
![]() Thanks for the confirmation, though, I hear ya' farmgirl1961... |
Response to Farmgirl1961 (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 04:22 PM
Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)
7. I'll go with this.
Response to Farmgirl1961 (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 04:23 PM
Wellstone ruled (34,661 posts)
8. Let's realize this,
Trump and his Minions are running a good cop bad cop Public Relations and Propaganda Scheme on the Public.
Until we are able to put a stop to that,very afraid nothing changes. |
Response to Farmgirl1961 (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 04:30 PM
maxrandb (14,006 posts)
12. I think a Mental Health evaluation
followed by implementation of the 25TH Amendment is in order.
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Response to maxrandb (Reply #12)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 04:32 PM
still_one (87,922 posts)
15. That is a possibility. What people need to realize, it isn't whether Pence is also bad, it is that
any process to remove trump would create a delay, and delay means less damage
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