Is it appropriate or inappropriate to refer to Donald Trump as Donald Drumpf?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
	Appropriate
	3 (17%)
	Inappropriate
	2 (11%)
	Freedom of speech
	13 (72%)
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[Vinca]

1. Call him whatever the hell you want, just don't call him President.

[rzemanfl]

9. +1. n/t

[trueblue2007]

68. I NEVER CALL HIM PRESIDENT. I call him Donald Rump.

[milestogo]

2. He should be referred to as shitforbrains.

[NRaleighLiberal]

3. It's irrelevant. I won't call him a thing - he is not and never will be my president

[saidsimplesimon]

4. Freedom of Speech

I call him rump. It is intended to be as disrespectful to him as his "grab them by the p..." (with a long list of additional insults to women) is for me.

[BigBearJohn]

5. I prefer using Donald Rump (aka asshole)

[Wounded Bear]

6. I just call him Trump...nt

[beachbum bob]

7. Should be a little classier...

Like Pee-king...

[doc03]

8. Alternative President nt

[Lucinda]

65. I like!

[blogslut]

10. Cha hipped me to my favorite moniker

BLOTUS

[TrekLuver]

14. I like that too but use BLOWTUS Blow Hard

[LeftInTX]

11. Drumpf is too nice

[TrekLuver]

12. Actually that's one of the nicer names...

[loyalsister]

13. It's bigotry

Birtherism was born out of the jarring fact of having a president Barack Hussein Obama. I have an uncle who referred to him exclusively as Hussein for the same reasons people want to use Drumpf.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. Barack Hussein Obama is his name and he never ran from it.

If you read his memoirs he specifically rejected the attempts to Anglicize or more accurately Americanize Barack to Barry. Your uncle was referring to him by his middle name.

[loyalsister]

16. The goal is the same

The idea is to stimulate biases against ethnicity. Capitalizing on bigotry is itself bigotted.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. If you believe...

If you believe bigotry is the impetus of myself and other members of this community to refer to Trump as Drumpf there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion.

[Generator]

53. How do you feel about scumbag?

That's my name for him. I have utter contempt for him. Drumfp is meaningless to me. But you should know he thinks he's part of the master race. I should find that link.

http://www.alan.com/2016/10/01/master-race-trump-believes-he-has-has-superior-genes/

That's one. OrangeHitler works-oh apologizes to Hitler. That's my teens favorite. Why have one name when they all should apply? Your argument that we are trashing him becomes he's German is kinda ironic.

[loyalsister]

56. I think it's tragic that he is president

and I think it is correct thinking to be offended by his policy proposals and general disposition. But it is no excuse for exploiting bigotry. Especially when doing so gives one no standing to criticize it when he does it.
The nicknames themselves are juvenile and serve no purpose beyond some sense of self satisfaction in a belief in one's cleverness. Language has better uses than to spread bigotry and useless attempts at ridicule.

[treestar]

17. I recall this with Bobby "Piyush" Jindal

Hussein was the President's middle name. Their using it when he does not showed their bigotry.

With Bobby Jindal, he was Americanizing his name voluntarily, so it was bigoted to call him Piyush because he did not use it.

The spelling is easier so it could have had to do with that. Maybe there is evidence rich Daddy Drumpf really did want to do that. Or maybe it was for vanity reasons. It's an old white man, though, so it is tough to drum up sympathy for what little bigotry can be raised against him. White people can handle it - it doesn't hurt them. Also he could be fair game due to his bigotry towards other. Golden rule and all that.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. President Obama's nemeses referred to him as Barry.

It is to his credit that he was secure enough in his own skin to never "Americanize" his name.

[treestar]

24. That one is amusing in that they chose to do it for him

Normally they would have wanted to emphasize the foreign-ness! You know so they could claim he is a Kenyan Muslim.

[loyalsister]

35. bigotry is always based in hate and disdian

It may look different but the intention and sentiment is the same and one enables the other. Thus what this really does is say it's okay for Trump to spread his.

[brooklynite]

19. Name calling is about as lazy a strategy as you can come up with...

It may make you feel good, it may get you applause from your friends, but it accomplishes nothing, and we have serious work ahead of us.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

22. "Isn't it his actual name before it was anglicized? I don't see the problem."

[brooklynite]

25. It may have been a family name; it's not (and never was) his.

[smirkymonkey]

60. Yes, but it is an actual name and it is ancestral, so it's not really an insult.

I can think of far worse things to call him. Why would he be insulted by being called a name that belonged to his forebears unless he was ashamed of them.

[brooklynite]

62. What is your PURPOSE in calling him "Drumpf"

[smirkymonkey]

63. I don't call him Drumpf, but it is the original family name so I just

don't see it as the ultimate insult compared to what people usually call him. Why are you so offended by it?

I have never used the name myself, but I personally don't care what people call him.

[treestar]

26. Does it accomplish nothing?

It could help the resolve to oppose. That's our issue. Not enough resolve.

I like them usually, even a bit amused if they are directed at Democrats. Also things like "Trumparency" "Trumpertantrum" "Trumpelthinskin" etc.

[brooklynite]

29. "I didn't like his tax, immigration and environmental policy...

...but it was only when someone changed his name in a blog post that I decided to get involved".

[treestar]

30. Not directly like that, that is unlikely

just creating an overall atmosphere. Firing up the people already involved.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

34. ...

Donald Trump's grandfather Friedrich Drumpf did change his name to Frederick Trump after immigrating to America, and an easy assumption would be that he wanted to Anglicize the name. Many immigrants did this over the centuries once arriving for a number of reasons, from avoiding discrimination to assimilating more quickly to improving their business prospects, reported The New York Times. And Trump is a very good name for business — not just because it's easy to pronounce, but because of how it strikes the ear and certain connotations that come with it.

"Trump" is firm; it's punchy; it sounds powerful (contrasted with "Drumpf," which is more like the sound a wet Whoopee cushion might make). It carries tones of strength and success; The Boston Globe noted that the word "trump" is associated with the sound of a trumpet, and with cards that rank above all others in various card games. And Donald Trump's constant reference to his wealth and success certainly bolsters these associations.

John Oliver, for his part, is hoping to break them by blowing up the "Drumpf" name. The Trump brand, with its bravado and its fearless "say-anything" quality, has cast a sort of spell over a significant portion of the American electorate. "I get that the character of Donald Trump is entertaining and that he says things that people want to hear. And I know his name is powerful. ... The very name Trump is the cornerstone of his brand. If only there was a way to uncouple that magical word from the man he really is." said Oliver.


https://www.bustle.com/articles/144964-why-did-donald-trumps-ancestors-change-their-name-from-drumpf-the-story-behind-the-switch

[treestar]

36. so true - we've heard so often that optics

matter more than anything. So we need to take page out of that book. If it hurt the Rs to do it, we'd have evidence that it is not worth doing, but the Rs seem to get rewarded for it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

42. I am surprised he didn't call one of his sons Victor.

[smirkymonkey]

20. Isn't it his actual name before it was anglicized? I don't see the problem.

Unless you think there is something wrong with being German.

[yurbud]

23. Yes. He should only be referred to as "Donito Cheetolini"

[Tikki]

27. Actually I find myself calling him bush when I am talking to my husband.

He totally knows who I am talking about.


Tikki

[yurbud]

58. Bush is actually a half step above him in the GOP devolution of presidents

[Tikki]

64. A lot of it feels the same....but, trump is a BIG LIAR...boosh was a slyer liar, well sort of....

Tikki

[skylucy]

28. I prefer to call him The Asshole.

[Glamrock]

31. Appropriate?

Who gives a shit? I only concern myself about what's appropriate when it comes to people who deserve respect......

[greatauntoftriplets]

32. I've used it.

Maybe I should just stick with dingleberry?

[califootman]

33. It is both inappropriate and Freedom of Speech.

Do you like it when people refer to you with a derogatory name or term?

If not, you should not do it to others. Whether they do it to you does not matter.

When they go low, we go high... or else we're down at the same level they are.

There are a few times it is worth it to get down in the mud with your opponent. This is not one of them.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

40. If you are a politician, you'd better expect it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

41. "Do you like it when people refer to you with a derogatory name or term? "

If I said Mexicans were criminals and rapists, said African Americans were lazy, said it is ok to grab women by the pu$$y, and we should ban Muslims from entering the United States I would expect to be called a lot worse than Drumpf.

BTW, I see your California Republic avatar. I traveled twenty six miles via bus and subway to attend the Women's March at Pershing Square. I saw him called a lot worse.

[califootman]

43. Then call him a racist, misogynist, and xenophobe.

There are much better real words to use for him than having to revert to the schoolyard bully antics of name calling.

Again, it is freedom of speech, so people have a right to choose to call him names. But that is a choice they are making and the choices we make reflect on us.

[BigMin28]

37. We have

Been calling him Predator Drump or Prevaricator trump. I refuse to use his name and the word president together.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

38. That's too nice.....

[tecelote]

39. Comrade Trump

[kerry-is-my-prez]

45. Not bad. Was thinking that would be good a while back.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

44. How about something to do with his habit of being a polluter? That should be emphasized.

"The polluter" "pollutinator." I'm part German and don't find "Drumpf" that offensive. It's an ugly name for a German.

[EL34x4]

46. It will complicate the archival process.

At some point in the future, researchers may wish to consolidate all the threads on Trump from various forums. After all, everything we post here is forever. Using "Drumpf" and whatnot complicates this.

This and it's childish.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

47. Is Con Trump appropriate?

[EL34x4]

52. Sure. I don't see why not.

His name is in it so it won't complicate archives.

[mythology]

48. Having grown up with a mockable last name

I have a hard making fun of somebody's name. I also generally don't take people seriously who do so.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

49. Drumpf is thinking about putting a guy on the Supreme Court

Drumpf is considering putting a man on the Supreme Court who compared same sex relationships to pedophilia, prostitution, bestiality, adultery, necrophilia, incest and prostitution:

http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript227_full.html

Drumpf is the nicest thing I can call him.

[geek tragedy]

50. Trump is a fake name and he's a fake president nt

[liberal N proud]

51. Just trump, no capitalization

[NastyRiffraff]

54. I usually call him Dump

or Asshole, or Shithead. I'll never call him President.

[muriel_volestrangler]

55. Just remember that the family name was changed to something meaning 'fart' in English

In the long run, calling him 'Drumpf' may be doing him a favour. Make him own the 'Donald Fart' name.

[ProfessorGAC]

57. I Refer To "It" as "It"

And that's all i'm ever going to use.

[bluedigger]

59. I prefer the alt-spelling - Tяump

[AgadorSparticus]

61. Of all the shit going on right now, THIS is on your mind??!?!! REALLY?!?!?!!

[Mc Mike]

66. Unsure, but it's really wrong to call him the "A**hole Messiah", and

referring to him as "America's Bloated Swollen Orange Hemorrhoid" is clearly beyond the pale.

"Der dRumpfenfuhrer" might be all right, it's a term of endearment his nazi buddies use a lot.

[ileus]

67. who gives two flying fuddernuts.