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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 05:01 PM Jan 2017

Trump is Nixon without the polish

By Carter Eskew January 24 at 11:05 AM

The carpet shampoo is barely dry in the Oval Office from the change-over in presidents, and the Trump administration has already given us a defining phrase: “alternative facts.” As Richard Nixon often said, “Let me say this about that”: Kellyanne Conway’s words will outlast her time in the White House and become a symbol of her administration’s prevarications as surely as Ron Ziegler’s famous words “This is the operative statement. The others are inoperative” have stood as a marker for the deceitfulness of the Nixon administration. We know that Trump not only has a tenuous relationship with the truth but also has a strategy of devaluing objective fact. You have your facts; Trump has his “alternatives”: biggest inaugural crowd in history, one of the largest margins of victory in electoral college history, millions of illegal immigrants voted, and so on.

It will be important to see whether Trump misleads about the big stuff, as well as the little stuff, the way Nixon did. Nixon deceived on everything from the quality of the wine served to him vs. his guests, to body counts in Vietnam. So far, Trump’s deceptions seem less sinister. So far, he’s like Nixon, but without the polish. Easier to catch. So far.

Both men seem to share something else in common: a deep-seated resentment for the media and other elites. Nixon never felt completely legitimate as president; he always saw a plot by the Kennedys to thwart or defeat him. No matter his success, the “Ivy Leaguers” seemed to look down upon him. In the end, Nixon’s resentments both motivated and defeated him. He took his mantra of “I am not a quitter” and turned it into criminal activity. He forgot that he was venerated by millions of Americans, the silent majority, who identified with him as an underdog. Instead, he was obsessed with the approval of those who would never give it to him. Unrequited, he sought revenge.

Trump shares some of these same qualities. He comes from Queens and had to muscle his way into the hierarchy of Manhattan real estate, whose elite have always seen him more as a marketer than a builder. He is acutely aware of the disdain elites have for his outsize ego and gilded properties bearing the large stamp of his name. He is everything certain old-style elites disdain: loud, brassy, crude and boastful. Like Nixon, he seems to fear he isn’t viewed as legitimate. Instead of embracing the people who identify with his story of success, he, too, stews over those who slight it. Like Nixon, he hates the press. And, like Nixon, he is frequently underestimated.

A question to follow in the Trump years will be whether he can harness his resentments and use them as positive motivation, or whether he will succumb to their darker instincts. Right now, it seems, he could go either way.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2017/01/24/trump-is-nixon-without-the-polish/?utm_term=.08761ec92c13&wpisrc=nl_popns&wpmm=1

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Trump is Nixon without the polish (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2017 OP
Nixon was a crook. C_U_L8R Jan 2017 #1
and a crook. unblock Jan 2017 #2
I'd call refusing to pay what is owed on a contract being a crook. Ms. Toad Jan 2017 #3
A good investigation would probably find him guilty of tax evasion. lpbk2713 Jan 2017 #7
I would wait to see his tax returns before agreeing with that. n/t rzemanfl Jan 2017 #4
Trump U was fraud Fresh_Start Jan 2017 #5
And yes... a crook :-) C_U_L8R Jan 2017 #6
Nixon wasn't an idiot. tecelote Jan 2017 #8
Thanks. That's what I meant. C_U_L8R Jan 2017 #9
As I read through and then posted, I didn't realize I reiterated what you said. tecelote Jan 2017 #11
tRump makes Nixon look like the Pope liberaltrucker Jan 2017 #10
Nixon wasn't so "thin skinned" like trump is. dubyadiprecession Jan 2017 #12
You can't compare Nixon to Trump. Nixon was no idiot demosincebirth Jan 2017 #13
Nixon was capable of introspection. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2017 #14
Nixon was in favor of Social Security AND... dchill Jan 2017 #15
Tricky Dick and lil Dick malaise Jan 2017 #16
Nixon felt inferior; Trump thinks of himself as #1 VOX Jan 2017 #17

Ms. Toad

(33,992 posts)
3. I'd call refusing to pay what is owed on a contract being a crook.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 05:07 PM
Jan 2017

Especially since it was done with the cold calculation that those owed the money would realize they could not afford the legal bills to get what they were owed.

lpbk2713

(42,736 posts)
7. A good investigation would probably find him guilty of tax evasion.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 05:10 PM
Jan 2017



But we will probably never know now that he is in the Executive office.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
5. Trump U was fraud
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 05:09 PM
Jan 2017

and he paid...So yes he's a crook, might not be been convicted..but a crook none the less.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
11. As I read through and then posted, I didn't realize I reiterated what you said.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 05:43 PM
Jan 2017

However, it can not be said enough or in too many ways.

Useful Idiot

There. that's the ticket.

dubyadiprecession

(5,678 posts)
12. Nixon wasn't so "thin skinned" like trump is.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 06:03 PM
Jan 2017

Plus, Nixon actually won both the popular vote and the electoral vote.

dchill

(38,434 posts)
15. Nixon was in favor of Social Security AND...
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 07:15 PM
Jan 2017

a guaranteed income for everyone. You can't even find a Democrat who'll go that far today. Yeah, he was a crook, but he wasn't a soulless bastard.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
17. Nixon felt inferior; Trump thinks of himself as #1
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 07:45 PM
Jan 2017

Neither one was/is a whole person. Both exhibit paranoid streaks a mile wide, both men were/are vindictive.

But Trump's blind, bombastic grandiosity is something Nixon never had on his worst day. Nixon plotted and planned in secrecy (except for those tell-almost-all tapes). Trump doesn't give a damn, tweeting away in the dead of night, pecking out his latest mania on a social media platform for the world to see.

Neither man was/is presidential timber, but Trump is an unguided missile-- and someday, he'll come down like a V-2 failure.

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