So...if Trump snuck in by SOUNDING "real"...can't we win by actually BEING real?

[Ken Burch]

Shouldn't we be able to win the next election by actually talking directly about race AND class, about war and greed?

Shouldn't we give it a rest with our usual obsession with sounding "careful" and "restrained" and deferential?

[frazzled]

1. No, fake is the new real

Sincerity, truth, and selfless ideals are not the stuff of ratings these days.

[Ken Burch]

2. Chilling thought, that.

n/t.

[TheDebbieDee]

3. Remember this last election campaign? Every time

Sec Clinton did an interview, the purpose of the interview was always about her e-mail or about what Trump has said! I've read a lot about people asking, post-election, HILLARY SHOULD HAVE TALKED MORE ABOUT HER PROGRAMS!

And if Sec Clinton had been more like Palin and talked about what she wanted to talk about regardless of the questions she was asked it would have been considered "e-mail" evasive but she would have put out more info about her plans...

[Ken Burch]

5. This isn't about Hillary. It's about the way we always campaign in the fall.

Our nominees always sound as though our core values are vaguely shameful, that they have to defer to a right-wing white male narrative on everything, that they can never just "let if rip" and make a proud, passionate, unapologetic case for change.

It's a mindset that goes back decades in this party, and it almost never works.

[TheDebbieDee]

8. That was my point... Dem candidates should learn to answer questions,

ANY interviews questions, with answer that highlight why they are running for office and the specific types of legislation that they plan to support...

[Johonny]

4. No, Trump won because the media refused to take campaign serious and focus on issues

perhaps reality will be so bad that they'll have to debate issues in 2020, but I wouldn't count on it.

Hillary tried time and time again to speak to the issues, just as Obama tried to discuss the ACA law but the media doesn't do actual information anymore.

[Ken Burch]

7. Again, I'm not singling out Hillary on this.

It's the mindset our party's "strategists" always have about the fall campaigns:

They think we have to be painfully "careful", that we have to campaign by hiding what we're about, that we can't win by inspiring(even though Barack Obama proved that we can).

It's like we keep running the Mondale and Dukakis and Kerry campaigns over and over. All of those candidates would have been excellent presidents, but they stuck to the template and the result was always failure.

Starting in 2018, and again in 2020, let's try passion, let's try inspiration, let's try actually presenting ourselves as a party the voters will care enough to turn out for, rather than sticking with our usual thing of being bland and simply demanding that people turn out(an approach that we know by now never works and never WILL work).

[NurseJackie]

6. Your premise is flawed.