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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,704 posts)
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 11:45 AM Jan 2017

Does Trump represent the apotheosis of GOP politics or does he represent a radical departure?





Does Trump represent the apotheosis of GOP politics or does he represent a radical departure?

Likely a bit a both and he is the Frankenstein monster they wittingly/unwittingly created. I forgot the whole Frankenstein story, but wasn't Frankenstein the result of a lab experiment gone wrong.

There has been a debate over whether Donald Trump represents the apotheosis of GOP politics or a radical departure. One can point to the fact that so many Republicans have fallen behind him that he must represent the apotheosis. On the other hand all his Republican predecessors have at least paid lip service to pluralism, democratic norms, and the rule of law.

I believe Donald Trump represents a radical departure from the rough consensus we have forged over our two hundred fifty or so year experiment in self governance. He represents those who want to be ruled, not governed.

And now the GOP holds all the levers of government. Reagan had to contend with a Democratic House for all of his tenure and a Democratic Senate for some of it.

Checks and balances fail to work when one party holds all the levels of government. When I was in grad school in the eighties we used to talk about centrifugal forces. They are more powerful than ever now. Many Americans want nothing to do with their fellow Americans. The only thing that is preventing dissolution is force.
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Does Trump represent the apotheosis of GOP politics or does he represent a radical departure? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 OP
He is Grover Norquist's dream president DODI Jan 2017 #1
Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #2
I don't think it's binary. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #4
He's their ID; what they always wanted to say but did... he's a sexist, racist, religious bigoted uponit7771 Jan 2017 #3

DODI

(2,144 posts)
1. He is Grover Norquist's dream president
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 11:51 AM
Jan 2017

The just take stuff drafted up by the Heritage Foundation, place it in front of him and he signs it. Google "A Better Way" it is all there and it is horrid.


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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,704 posts)
4. I don't think it's binary.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 11:57 AM
Jan 2017

Most Democrats have bought into cultural inclusion and the preservation of the safety net or the welfare state. The cultural inclusion debate is essentially settled. If there is a debate it is about the size of the welfare state and the role of markets in our economy.

uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
3. He's their ID; what they always wanted to say but did... he's a sexist, racist, religious bigoted
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 11:57 AM
Jan 2017

... grifter.

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