WOW - WAPO: "If he cannot accept reality, he is not fit to carry out the duties of the president"

[kpete]

Jennifer Rubin
Maybe Trump isn’t ‘lying’

............

Schumer calls that a political problem. He gently offered, “In general you cannot run a country unless you know the facts. If you’re going to believe your own facts, whether it’s about what Putin is doing in the world or what jobs or companies are doing here, you aren’t going to be able to govern, so I worry about it.” The shorter version: If he cannot accept reality, he is not fit to carry out the duties of the president.

We are not calling — yet — for invocation of Section 4 of the 25th Amendment. (“Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.”)

We are calling for someone, perhaps his children, to see if they can prevail upon him to stop behaving in this way, for if not, legitimate worries will mount about whether he is able to carry out his duties. We also are saying that Republicans need to be pressed to state their view: Is he lying or is he unable to separate what he wants to believe and what exists, literally, in front of his eyes? The first makes him morally unfit, and was the basis upon which many #NeverTrumpers refused to vote for him. If the latter, they — and we all — have a constitutional crisis the likes of which we have never seen. With Trump, however, we have learned the past provides no guarantees.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/01/25/maybe-trump-isnt-lying/?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-e%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.f16249fa47f4#comments

[Ilsa]

1. Don't get his kids to intervene. Let trump be trump.

Let him hang himself higher each day.

[Dustlawyer]

20. Yes! He needs to bring down the Republican Party with him!

He hasn't made them stick their necks out far enough to chop off yet!

[Mr. Evil]

47. And let's hope Mitch McConnell is the first one on the block.

[Ken Burch]

21. How do we know his kids accept reality, for that matter?

n/t.

[tikka]

48. Kushner will let Trump be Trump as long as he gets to be the power behind the throne n/t

[Roy Rolling]

23. Too late

If being elected President of the United States did not sober him up then he is unfit. It didn't, too late.

[zentrum]

46. Agree with this reasoning...

.....but how long will it take? He'll do so much damage on his way down. If only through his Supreme Court nominee. We have to live in T's wake.

[madokie]

52. His kids are even worse

so I say let'm at him, can't hurt. Maybe that way we can be shed of the whole clan

[Girard442]

2. We have to keep constantly bringing this up.

Without snark or playing it for laughs. Seriously, the man is unfit. He has serious psychological issues that make him a potential danger to himself and others.

[lagomorph777]

4. I don't care if he's a danger to himself...

He is a danger to me and every life form on the planet.

[madokie]

53. You're talking for me too

Peace

[angstlessk]

9. Not just others....

the entire PLANET!

[shraby]

3. Something that is being overlooked is he now has full access to the country's secrets.

How many will he spill and put our spies in danger when trying to make himself more grandiose?

[lagomorph777]

5. Seems he's already started

http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2017/01/25/russia-kaspersky-treason-arrest/#48afdb674a68

[dalton99a]

41. All Putin has to do is ask nicely

[dawnie51]

6. There are no patriots to intervene....

just bought and paid for stooges who are only worried about lining their own pockets. They seem to think they can survive this insanity with their ill gotten gains intact, and without personal pain. They are wrong. All of these people, McCain, Ryan, the hierarchy of government who know who and what Drumpt and his lackeys are, YOU are responsible for EVERYTHING that befalls this country now. You will be vilified and hated for eternity for allowing this to come to pass.

[hamsterjill]

13. Ted Cruz

I live in Texas and that yuckface is my Senator. I've been calling regularly. I know it serves no purpose, but it's my right to call and I am damn well going to call.

Today's phone call was about the "millions and millions of illegal votes". I was talking with a staff member and I asked what Senator Cruz's position was on the fact that Donald Trump (I refuse to use the work President and Donald Trump together) was insisting that there were millions of illegal votes when we all knew it was a lie.

"Well, that's an opinion" was the response, to which I replied, "No, sir, it's a lie. L-I-E."

These people don't give a damn about what Trump is doing. They are looking at ways that his behavior will benefit their pocketbooks and power grabs, and as you indicate, they think that they will be immune from the consequences.

I'm calling again tomorrow...

[Equinox Moon]

38. In order to be heard by the Cruz office...

Reverse it on them. Say you are an unhappy trump/GOP supporter.
In order to be heard, I am now saying when I call and write, that I was a trump supporter and I am very concerned about the cabinet picks, for example (long list!). You said you where draining the swamp, yet now you are creating a swamp.

Same for GOP, tell them you used to be a republican, or that you are a republican, but you can't support their agenda anymore.

I think the division is so severe, if the WH gets a message from a democrat it goes in the trash.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028522847

The above link has some great comments about this. Some people have been doing this kind of calling for years. They have to. If they call in as a "liberal" its over.

[hamsterjill]

42. I never tell them a party affiliation.

But there is merit in saying I was a former Trump supporter, etc., so I will try that.

Thanks for the idea.

[Equinox Moon]

43. Rock on

[certainot]

59. as you would know in texas, republicans have 1200 radio stations

covering for their lies, in fact creating them and turning them into 'facts'

until americans stop ignoring that, republicans will be enabled in their insanities by a few hundred think tank -coordinated blowhards hiding behind call screeners

[montanacowboy]

7. More and more of this has to happen

the ball has to start rolling somewhere

[underpants]

8. 3 MILLION people on Saturday told him to start behaving himself

and start acting right.

[narnian60]

51. +1

[Cha]

10. And there it is

WAPO: "If he cannot accept reality, he is not fit to carry out the duties of the president"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/01/25/maybe-trump-isnt-lying/?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-e%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.f16249fa47f4#comments

[onetexan]

15. ABOUT TIME THIS WAS SAID

absolutely true - he is grossly unfit - mentally, physically, emotionally, intellectually.

[Cha]

40. YES.. I like the way it's FRAMED.. Succinctly to the point!

[smirkymonkey]

11. K&R

[calimary]

12. If I recall correctly, the author here

Jennifer Rubin, is a CONservative.

Probably won't make much difference, but it's a drumbeat. And it will be bery helpful for a drumbeat to get started. I hope it continues until it drowns out everything else!

[BSdetect]

17. twitler is delusional and very very dimwitted.

That they have allowed him to be in power this long means they do not intend to do anything about his mania.

[NewJeffCT]

19. yes, Jennifer Rubin is a conservative Republican

I guess one of the few left that has some principles.

[SunSeeker]

14. K & R

[humbled_opinion]

16. Sadly it seems

his poll numbers are continuing to improve. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_jan25

[ginnyinWI]

22. a modest rise, but not impressive. n/t

[humbled_opinion]

24. Based on his performance to date

and the show of force by anti-Trump demonstrations his max ceiling of support among his most ardent supporters cannot be more than 40% approval, throw in some middle of the road not convinced either way yet and that might get him 45%, that poll has him at 57% maybe not a reliable poll because it is a daily poll. I will check Gallup.

[bucolic_frolic]

18. So we are making progress

'bout time

[progree]

25. It's an Op Ed, not an editorial or a news story. Op Eds for most newspapers are written by a

politically diversified group of writers to show that they are "balanced". But nice anyway to see a good Op Ed like this. Particularly from a self-described conservative.

[ALBliberal]

26. Mitch McConnell sure is making himself scarce...eom

[cbdo2007]

28. Our only hope is to get the Repubes to turn on Trump. If we make McConnell and Ryan and everyone

else own the things Trump said, and publicly repudiate his lies, then they will eventually get sick of it and turn on him.

[ALBliberal]

30. They dont seem to be granting interviews...

[loyalsister]

27. People still don't get it

His lies are intentional and effective. That he is telling them blatently is a distraction from the consequences.
I think it's no coincidence that he's talking about voter fraud and Bannon has "proven" that it's easy to commit voter fraud by registering in two states. Thus, this administration completely in touch with reality because they know exactly how they can validate a push for more voting restrictions. By the time they're finished, voter registration will require a passport and a birth certificate or something.
They know exactly what they are doing, and it is dangerous.

[Texin]

32. Totally agree with you. Cheeto is the rethugs' very own sockpuppet.

Putin doesn't fully own the rights to this cretin, and the rethugs are all too willing to let him carry out their agenda. This shit about Hillary's 3 million vote popular vote win all being as a result of voter fraud is yet another of their strategies to restrict voting access and to prevent more likely liberal voters from participation. They'll do whatever they have to maintain their majorities in Congress and have a lock on the WH for the next generation. In the short term, say for the next congressional elections in two years, they can restrict, challenge and do whatever it takes to remain in control. After 2020 when the census occurs (if it's allowed to remain in place and not repealed by the expected ultra-conservative SCOTUS), they'll gerrymander districts to hold onto their power. Cheeto's strategy is to delegitimize Hillary's "win" at the polls to serve their purpose short term.

All that said, Cheeto is still demented. He's suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disorder (and maybe just a touch of early dementia) and is emotionally, psychologically and morally unfit to govern. He's a danger to the entire planet. The rethugs probably all know full well that he's essentially a man walking around with an arsenal of nuclear hand grenades with the pins pulled just daring anyone to challenge him or piss him off or hurt his widdle feelings. He needs to be REMOVED. One way or another.

Tyrants, Despots and Dictators of any stripe never just lose an election. Autocratic rulers are DEPOSED or they swallow a cyanide pill or a pistol. Just take a look at how the Thousand Year Reich ended for Hitler. Or for Mussolini hanged by his bootstrap. Even Stalin was purportedly poisoned while he slept. All these vile creatures were as relentlessly, obsessively delusional and they took their countries and their enemies into complete ruin and destruction before they finally bit it. Despots don't listen and they only hold to their own whims and fancies. Nobody can argue with them to the contrary. I fully expect tRump is no different and may be worse. He's already terrifying to behold.

Every day he's allowed to remain in control of the most powerful position on the planet, we are in mortal danger.

[Mark.Gray]

29. Trivial Suggestion

Perhaps it is not that he cannot accept reality, but that he has his own and cannot accept challenges to its dominion...

[mvd]

31. K&R

The non-Faux News media has been better than I thought they would be so far.

[Stellar]

33. Olbermann says the same thing.

Keith Olbermann: Donald Trump Is Not Of Sound Mind And Must Resign

Link to tweet

[ffr]

34. 63 million red citizens put us here, gave us this wrecking crew with their blessings.

[rainbow4321]

35. Lindsey Graham hinted at this yesterday during an interview

But he cut himself short mid sentence. He was being asked why drumf was fixated on the election stats and voter fraud and he started a sentence by "Look, I'm not a...." and then started another sentence vaguely saying he is not inside drumf's head, etc...

I really think he was about to say "I'm not a psychiatrist". It fits in with this article.

DC repukes know. He is unstable. He needs to be removed.

[Pachamama]

36. We are really fucked if we are turning to someone's kids hoping they can get him to stop the tweetin

...put away the nuclear codes, and try to get atleast 4 hours of sleep....

[lindysalsagal]

37. I never thought it would happen this fast.

WA po!

[TNLib]

39. You can't tell a seriously mentally ill person to just knock it off!

I strongly believe he suffers from

schiz·o·phre·ni·a
ˌskitsəˈfrēnēə,ˌskitsəˈfrenēə/
noun
a long-term mental disorder of a type involving a breakdown in the relation between thought, emotion, and behavior, leading to faulty perception, inappropriate actions and feelings, withdrawal from reality and personal relationships into fantasy and delusion, and a sense of mental fragmentation.

Someone very close to me had this and his behavior was very similar to Trump.

[Chemisse]

50. There is no way he is schizophrenic.

He would not be able to function.

And he is not mentally ill (unless possibly he is bipolar, with manic highs and angry lows).

He has several severe personality disorders (sociopathy and narcissism) which make him unfit for office.

[McCamy Taylor]

44. WaPo and NYT compete to see which will spearhead Watergate 2017.

Free market competition at its finest!

[Kablooie]

45. But you know Republicans will disagree. A mentally unstable president is acceptable...

as long as he's Republican.
They hold no moral values at all and will do anything at all including the total destruction of Democracy, to hold onto power.

[Mr. Evil]

49. And pursue their warped agenda.

You pretty much summed up their attitude.

[Maraya1969]

54. I just said yesterday that I think he may be psychotic. People can be psychotic and not

talk to people who aren't there or see things that aren't there. He seems to have a real disconnect with reality, maybe this wasn't so before the president thing happened but the stress of it may have brought it on.

Before this he was just a narcissistic jackass.

[workinclasszero]

55. His kids are probably scared to death of him

Trump has lived in a world of his own till age 70. I don't see anyone talking him out of it now.

[SHRED]

56. A little late.

How come we all knew this years ago about him and they didn't?

[Grins]

57. "...a constitutional crisis the likes of which we have never seen"

"...we all — have a constitutional crisis the likes of which we have never seen..."

What constitution crisis has there ever been that did not involve Republicans?

[spanone]

58. K&R...

[paulkienitz]

60. I don't buy the crazy/deluded theory. It's habitual lying.

Trump is not a crazed visionary, he is a bullshitter.