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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 11:50 PM Jan 2017

It Will Not Be A Shooting War But We Will Have A Political Civil War.

I just do not see how we avoid huge political turmoil ahead. THERE IS NO COMMON GROUND BETWEEN TRUMP AND HIS SUPPORTERS and the rest of us who want a sane society with social and economic justice. Everything Trump is doing is meant to blow up the entire country. And the GOP will help him.

Only half of the country supports the protests. Another element is against them and want them STOPPED at all costs based on the rumbling in the social media by right wingers. Hate radio is incensed and calling these protests anti American and seditious. And I feel like tensions are rising.

Trump is so unstable and paranoid who could do anything including trying to disperse the protesters. I certainly would like to see things optimistically but it is hard. At CU college Republicans brought in a white supremacist to speak tonight and are accusing protesters and democrats of being hypocrites. College republicans are devoted vicious racists virtually all lily white. And they taunt professors they believe are too communistic even though that is a lie.

As far as I am concerned the GOP is pushing for a fight so they can suppress and oppress ALL opposition to their agenda.

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It Will Not Be A Shooting War But We Will Have A Political Civil War. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Jan 2017 OP
I don't think it is half. Maybe 25-30% - but they are aggressive, vocal, and ruthless NRaleighLiberal Jan 2017 #1
The Brown Shirts in Germany were a very dangerous vocal minority. Big Blue Marble Jan 2017 #3
The war has been going on for over two decades. Big Blue Marble Jan 2017 #2
Who will lead the opposition and harness the passion of the marches? redstateblues Jan 2017 #4
That is very concerning. Big Blue Marble Jan 2017 #5
Two? It's been going on since Reagan. Initech Jan 2017 #12
You are right, of course. Big Blue Marble Jan 2017 #17
Things Are Quiet From The Trump Supporter Side Right Now. TheMastersNemesis Jan 2017 #6
It will be very much a shooting war. roamer65 Jan 2017 #7
That's what I've been thinking, too regnaD kciN Jan 2017 #8
I wish I could agree with the assertion that it will not be a shooting war. world wide wally Jan 2017 #9
World alliances are shifting there is a covert war going on now. gordianot Jan 2017 #10
In a real war the first shot would be fired buy a right-wing corporate fascist. Lint Head Jan 2017 #11
We've been in a Civil Cold War meadowlander Jan 2017 #13
+1001 dchill Jan 2017 #15
If you want peace ProudLib72 Jan 2017 #14
We've been having one for 20 or 30 years, haven't you been paying attention? Spider Jerusalem Jan 2017 #16
I see a full fledged.... The_Voice_of_Reason Jan 2017 #18
It it comes to civil war v. tRump killing all life on Earth in a nuclear war based on his hurt thin ffr Jan 2017 #19

Big Blue Marble

(5,056 posts)
3. The Brown Shirts in Germany were a very dangerous vocal minority.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 11:55 PM
Jan 2017

These people are just as dangerous because they "know" they are right and we are all
subhuman. We are in for the fight of our lives to regain our country.

Big Blue Marble

(5,056 posts)
2. The war has been going on for over two decades.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 11:53 PM
Jan 2017

and up till now we are losing. We are in the majority. We need new leaders and
better organization and funding.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
4. Who will lead the opposition and harness the passion of the marches?
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 11:55 PM
Jan 2017

I don't see anyone talking up the mantle.

Big Blue Marble

(5,056 posts)
5. That is very concerning.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 11:59 PM
Jan 2017

We need guidance and leadership both locally and on a national level. The times often make the leader.
We will see new leaders emerge. I think the Obamas will play a role.

Initech

(100,042 posts)
12. Two? It's been going on since Reagan.
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 01:11 AM
Jan 2017

Reagan should not have been able to defeat Jimmy Carter, but he knew how to play the propaganda card.

Big Blue Marble

(5,056 posts)
17. You are right, of course.
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 01:49 AM
Jan 2017

But it really got nasty in the Clinton years as we all remember. Previously, they attempted to be
subtle with safety net BS and all. After Clinton got elected, they bared their teeth and it's been downhill ever since.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
6. Things Are Quiet From The Trump Supporter Side Right Now.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 11:59 PM
Jan 2017

However, there is a lot of bitterness and hate being expressed in the social media from their side. It is obvious that you cannot talk to or negotiate with these cretins ON ANY LEVEL. Even on the media they interrupt and shut down discussion. In earlier days you end up with a smack in the mouth and on the floor. On Chris Hayes there was some blonde GOP bimbo who interrupted both Sam Seder and Chris Hayes the entire segment.

If it were me I would get vicious and aggressive and sent her crying off the set she was so mean.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
7. It will be very much a shooting war.
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 12:01 AM
Jan 2017

I think we are on the leading edge of WW3.

Albeit, probably only about 2 hours...

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
8. That's what I've been thinking, too
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 12:16 AM
Jan 2017

We've had a "political civil war" at least since the 1960s, and probably since Brown v. Board of Education in 1954. It just hasn't reached the level of a shooting war because both sides professed an agreement on the ground rules of the political process, probably because all had spent many years in the political system. But it's clear that the Insane Clown Posse…I mean Trump administration doesn't see any need to adhere to such "sucker's terms" when they're in a position to simply achieve their goals by fiat.

To be clear, I don't think we're on the verge of WW3, but more like the second American Civil War.

gordianot

(15,234 posts)
10. World alliances are shifting there is a covert war going on now.
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 12:40 AM
Jan 2017

We are not yet privy to what is happening.

18. I see a full fledged....
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 02:14 AM
Jan 2017

Civil War fought along class and equal rights lines looming on the horizon. For starters, a lot of hard working Alt. Right rednecks have bought into Trump, but are expecting jobs, and a better way of life that neither Trump or the Republican party can deliver, and I am not sure they care to deliver. Not a group of people you want pissed off...they have guns and pickups...a lot of both of them. Then you have 79 Million Baby Boomers who just want promises made to us kept so that we can live out our old age without having to eat cat food pitched against Millennials who want what they want, and they want it right now. We haven't even gotten to POC, the LGBT community, immigrants, Muslims and women.

Each of these groups have differing needs, wants and desires with very little give, and fact is, some needs/wants are going to have to be tossed to meet the needs of another group. Recipe for disaster, and I believe the right flash point will give us a civil war that will see much blood shed on the shores of America.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
19. It it comes to civil war v. tRump killing all life on Earth in a nuclear war based on his hurt thin
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 02:51 AM
Jan 2017

skin. The choice is simple.

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