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Trump and the GOP might destroy so much that we will not be able to have a fair election by 2018. We are only just a few days into this god damned disaster in the making. Hell it already is a disaster.
LuvLoogie
(6,975 posts)Trump sucks, but you still have to put one foot in front of the other.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)That being said we make it to the mid-terms, I hope.
Merlot
(9,696 posts)Seriously, what would the scenerio look like if we "dont make it to mid-terms?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)We are where we are because of vote manipulation. It will not be corrected by 2018. The GOP will have time to make matters worse. Unless some GOPPERS come to their senses very little will change.
The other issue is how much they will rearrange the safety net landscape. Also we are very vulnerable to being dragged into military conflict more than we are now.
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)That situation has effected more than Trump. She will need valve replacement surgery.
Now to explain. I have followed events since Reagan and we have kept drifting toward this point ever since. What we are seeing now is the completion of the Reagan revolution. Everything that is happening right now goes back to all the things he started in 1981. A lot of original RW ground work was laid during the Nixon era.
So much of my life has been witness to an erosion in this country that has diminished us in so many ways. I have been hoping that voters through years would wise up to the GOP. Well they haven't.
MFM008
(19,804 posts)i want one.
MADem
(135,425 posts)All appropriations begin in the House.
THEY control what happens--not Trump.
He can sign a piece of paper saying "I'm gonna build a wall" the same way Obama signed one saying "I'm gonna close GITMO" but unless the House, which controls the PURSE, authorizes money to make these things happen, they don't happen.
So again, Ways and Means. They're the POWER.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-ryan-idUSKBN1592WD
Ryan: GOP will replace Obamacare, cut taxes and fund wall by August
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/republican-agenda-retreat-obamacare-wall-tax-cuts-234176
MADem
(135,425 posts)And then gets voted up by the bulk of the House, and then gets through the Senate...
I think it'll be a while before we see this legislation.
The oppo ads write themselves, especially when you tell people making minimum wage how much their taxes are gonna go up to fund this boondoggle...
arthritisR_US
(7,286 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)That said, it's a special committee. They know they have the power.
It's simply incumbent upon them to use it. Even a simple delay until the midterms is sufficient (when we can flip enough seats to make life miserable at a minimum, or, if things get bad enough, start one of those so-called revolutions). As you can see, we are woefully outnumbered but we can still make trouble:
The Committee on Ways and Means is the chief tax-writing committee of the United States House of Representatives. Members of the Ways and Means Committee are not allowed to serve on any other House Committee unless they apply for a waiver from their party's congressional leadership. The Committee has jurisdiction over all taxation, tariffs, and other revenue-raising measures, as well as a number of other programs including:
Social Security
Unemployment benefits
Medicare
Enforcement of child support laws
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, a federal welfare program
Foster care and adoption programs
The U.S. Constitution requires that all bills regarding taxation must originate in the House of Representatives. Since House procedure is that all bills regarding taxation must go through this committee, the committee is very influential, as is its Senate counterpart, the U.S. Senate Committee on Finance.
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Members, 115th Congress
Chairman Kevin Brady of Texas
Kevin Brady, Texas's 8th, Chairman
Sam Johnson, Texas's 3rd
Devin Nunes, California's 22nd
Pat Tiberi, Ohio's 12th
Dave Reichert, Washington's 8th
Peter Roskam, Illinois's 6th
Tom Price, Georgia's 6th
Vern Buchanan, Florida's 16th
Adrian Smith, Nebraska's 3rd
Lynn Jenkins, Kansas's 2nd
Erik Paulsen, Minnesota's 3rd
Kenny Marchant, Texas's 24th
Diane Black, Tennessee's 6th
Tom Reed, New York's 23rd
Mike Kelly, Pennsylvania's 3rd
Jim Renacci, Ohio's 16th
Pat Meehan, Pennsylvania's 7th
Kristi Noem, South Dakota's at-large
George Holding, North Carolina's 2nd
Jason T. Smith, Missouri's 8th
Tom Rice, South Carolina's 7th
Andy Biggs, Arizona's 5th
Jackie Walorski, Indiana's 2nd
Carlos Curbelo, Florida's 26th
Richard Neal, Massachusetts's 1st, Ranking Member
Sander Levin, Michigan's 9th
John Lewis, Georgia's 5th
Lloyd Doggett, Texas's 35th
Mike Thompson, California's 5th
John B. Larson, Connecticut's 1st
Earl Blumenauer, Oregon's 3rd
Ron Kind, Wisconsin's 3rd
Bill Pascrell, New Jersey's 9th
Joseph Crowley, New York's 14th
Danny K. Davis, Illinois's 7th
Linda Sánchez, California's 38th
Brian Higgins, New York's 26th
Terri Sewell, Alabama's 7th
Suzan DelBene, Washington's 1st
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Committee_on_Ways_and_Means
nikto
(3,284 posts)Why wait until 2018.
We gotta' start NOW.
Greybnk48
(10,167 posts)We're going to have to do something before then, or just pack up and go elsewhere.
Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)We are now under single-party rule.
Hell, the last several elections weren't fair. The results were heavily altered by gerrymandering and voter suppression.
world wide wally
(21,740 posts)Let's let the blind guy drive.
Thekaspervote
(32,754 posts)Please please stay focused on resist!!!! Yes, it's bad. Remember, they want us to feel bad, be afraid that keeps us quiet. Never give in never give up.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Never give up. Stand up for what is right. Speak up. Make waves. The arc of the universe bends towards justice. As bad as everything looks and feels, it could be much much worse. It ain't the civil war, or the Somne in France, or Dresden in WWII, or Tibet under the Chinese, or Napolean's retreat from Russia.
We each have to find our courageous heart to fight and rectify this immoral and ignorant evil that has captured our country. No one ever said it would be easy. We have to calm down, get focused, get involved, and get to work. You make better decisions and are more effective when you have a clear and calm mind, than if you are upset and freaked out.
Get involved and get busy with something in your community that matters to you. We need every person to fight this evil.
randome
(34,845 posts)Paladin
(28,246 posts)Nancy Pelosi is issuing public statements, saying she feels SORRY for trump, and is PRAYING for him. Word is that Diane Feinstein may vote FOR Jeff Sessions. And meanwhile, trump is saying he wants government science findings vetted by political review boards, prior to release---that's straight out of Stalinist Russia.
Everybody wake the fuck UP. Phone and email your representatives and tell them to mount an effective opposition to this dangerous new regime.
randome
(34,845 posts)Still, we will get past this. Trump won't last much longer, he's damaging the GOP brand too much already.
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