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GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 12:42 PM Jan 2017

To be plain about this, Steve Bannon is Putin's asset in the WH

I mean that literally. I think Bannon is the point man, executing a Russian disruption operation in the USA. He agrees with Aleksandr Dugin's goals and methods, and his current actions fully support this interpretation.

There are undoubtedly more of them in strategic positions throughout the administration. It's a nest of vipers.

For thoise unfamiliar with him, Dugin is known as "Putin's Rasputin". If you get to know him and what he's written, the picture of what's happening in the USA right now will be much clearer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Dugin

Here is a reference to his essential text. Take careful not of what he says about the USA:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

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To be plain about this, Steve Bannon is Putin's asset in the WH (Original Post) GliderGuider Jan 2017 OP
I agree. n/t MBS Jan 2017 #1
I think Flynn and Tillerson have both been compromised. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2017 #2
Not sure about Tillerson. Flynn? Absolutely. nt GliderGuider Jan 2017 #4
They're literally drinking buddies. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2017 #7
Notice how Flynn didn't have to go through a confirmation hearing? GliderGuider Jan 2017 #6
I think Tillerson has been compromised by Exxon and the almighty dollar... Raster Jan 2017 #29
Would you buy an 'alternative fact' from this man? Achilleaze Jan 2017 #3
Not if my life depended on it... nt GliderGuider Jan 2017 #5
He must be beholden to Putin get the red out Jan 2017 #10
Totally agree workinclasszero Jan 2017 #8
I unhappily agree with every word. GliderGuider Jan 2017 #11
"The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting." Sun Tzu workinclasszero Jan 2017 #12
I still think there's going to be a backlash... JHan Jan 2017 #19
Maybe you are right but workinclasszero Jan 2017 #21
From the recent arrests for treason in Russia it looks like Flynn is theirs too. nt GliderGuider Jan 2017 #23
I agree get the red out Jan 2017 #9
...is one of... Iggo Jan 2017 #13
Yup. GliderGuider Jan 2017 #15
follow the money. mopinko Jan 2017 #14
Good point about Breitbart as a (non)profit center... nt GliderGuider Jan 2017 #18
Bannon, Flynn, AND Tillerson. blm Jan 2017 #16
That's a reasonable assessment. The reason I'm doubtful about Tillerson GliderGuider Jan 2017 #17
Putin wanted Tillerson to get the Exxon deal closed to bring a flood of cash to Russia blm Jan 2017 #20
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2017 #24
Absolutely. dalton99a Jan 2017 #22
I wonder if these guys have ties to Alexandr Dugin. Ilsa Jan 2017 #25
I've been screaming about Dugin for the last week. GliderGuider Jan 2017 #26
Yes, you and josh cryer, and I've saved and linked Ilsa Jan 2017 #27
In order to get a reaction, would it be fair to Ilsa Jan 2017 #28
That's a perfect description! I'll start using it immediately! GliderGuider Jan 2017 #30

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,173 posts)
2. I think Flynn and Tillerson have both been compromised.
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 12:44 PM
Jan 2017

Not sure about Bannon, but it's possible.

I think certain ties go all the way back to Manafort, and I wonder how much bait did they really cut with him.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,173 posts)
7. They're literally drinking buddies.
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 12:48 PM
Jan 2017
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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/exxon-mobile-russia-sanctions-rex-tillerson-232770


ExxonMobil helped defeat Russia sanctions bill

The company’s formidable lobbying operation cleared the way for outgoing CEO Rex Tillerson to help restore a program worth billions of dollars as secretary of state.

By Isaac Arnsdorf and Elana Schor
| 12/18/16 07:11 AM EST

ExxonMobil successfully lobbied against a bill that would have made it harder for the next president to lift sanctions against Russia, clearing the way for the oil giant to restart a program worth billions of dollars if Donald Trump eases those restrictions as president.

The company’s effort could be helped by outgoing CEO Rex Tillerson, who, if confirmed as secretary of state, would be a key adviser on the decision.

The bill, known as the STAND for Ukraine Act, would have converted into law for five years President Barack Obama’s measures punishing Russia for annexing Crimea, making it more difficult for Trump to roll them back. The Senate left town on Monday without acting on the bill, making it easier for Trump to end the sanctions with a stroke of the pen.

The sanctions forced Exxon to step back from a drilling project in Russia’s Arctic, a loss that the company valued in a regulatory filing at as much as $1 billion. Exxon also lobbied the Senate Foreign Relations Committee against previous bills punishing Russia for the invasion of Ukraine, according to a person familiar with the company’s efforts on Capitol Hill.

Exxon’s intervention against the sanctions bill could add to concerns among senators — including Republicans John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio — that Tillerson is too chummy with Vladimir Putin. Exxon’s business partner in Russia is state-owned Rosneft, led by Igor Sechin, a close Putin ally who was sanctioned by the Treasury Department in 2014. Tillerson and Putin personally concluded the joint venture in 2011.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
29. I think Tillerson has been compromised by Exxon and the almighty dollar...
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 05:57 PM
Jan 2017

...Flynn, HELL YES, and Bannon should be called Comrade Bannon. Bannon is, IMHO, the scariest of the bunch, and co-inky-dinkly, one of those that do not require Congressional approval, just like Flynn.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
8. Totally agree
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 12:49 PM
Jan 2017

I'm convinced that the election of Trump is actually a Russian coup. Comey is a Russian agent and the FBI is horribly comprised as well.

I've got to give the devil his due, Putin is playing the USA and western democracies for fools.

He will use Trump to destroy the USA and NATO without firing a shot in anger. Russia and China will be the world powers in the future. All of Europe will be under Russian hegemony and we will be a client state of mother Russia at best.

Sun Tzu would be proud of his tactics no doubt. He was won the war before it started!

I mean Putin has the biggest win in history right now with no bloodshed required. I still think he will push his puppet BLOTUS Dump into a war with China though.

Then mother Russia would be the one and only undisputed power of the entire world.

The USA will be a backwater banana republic wholly owned and operated by the Koch bros and full of science denying theocratic mouth droolers.

After a full year of Trump insanity and total republican control I look for a brain drain to start taking place.

Scientists, researchers, and any discipline based in reality will have no place in a republican reality denying theocracy.

It's very sad to see how easy it was to take the USA out. Of course the USSR fell without a shooting war as well and now its our turn it seems.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
12. "The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting." Sun Tzu
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 01:01 PM
Jan 2017

It is happening right now. Right in front of our eyes.

And the most powerful military on the face of the earth is powerless to stop it.

Just goes to show that lies and propaganda can topple nations and empires as well as bullets and bombs.

When we killed the Fairness doctrine, the countdown began on the end of the USA.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
21. Maybe you are right but
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 04:08 PM
Jan 2017

Putin must be overjoyed to have his boy in the Oval office.

He's got a pipeline of intel direct from Comey in the FBI and Trump in the white house.

get the red out

(13,461 posts)
9. I agree
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 12:53 PM
Jan 2017

And it's really hard to find many of Trumps closest advisors who don't have some kind of Russian taint.

mopinko

(70,078 posts)
14. follow the money.
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 01:06 PM
Jan 2017

i suspect this clown was on the payroll for a long time.
there should be no money to be had from something like breitbart. yet, they guy is rich, is he not? this whole rw wave is engineered, and that is not a good thing.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
17. That's a reasonable assessment. The reason I'm doubtful about Tillerson
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 01:31 PM
Jan 2017

Is that his definition of success in life appears to be largely about money. Burning the USA to the ground - the objective of the Duginists - would seem get in the way of maximizing his profits.

I think maybe he's only been brought part way in - to the point where the sanctions get lifted. I don't think he's been told about the end game.

Or perhaps they have kompromat on him. Any way you slice it, he's dirty.

blm

(113,043 posts)
20. Putin wanted Tillerson to get the Exxon deal closed to bring a flood of cash to Russia
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 01:36 PM
Jan 2017

which Putin needs desperately after 2 years of sanctions.

Remember - Russia is a very poor country for the majority of its citizens. He needed an influx of real cash to keep up his image there.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
25. I wonder if these guys have ties to Alexandr Dugin.
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 05:18 PM
Jan 2017

Dugin is only 54, has facist, rascist views, and advocates for a world war. On his Wiki page, there are numerous writings about him. He's a very dangerous man and it is possible the Kremlin has adopted his geopolitical philosophy. DUer josh cryer has pointed out his book, The Foundations of Geopolitics: The Geopolitical Future of Russia is a "must read" by the Russian military, police, and foreign policy elites and was allegedly used as a textbook in the General Staff Academy of Russian military.

It would be interesting to see if their paths have crossed. (Ya hear that, CIA?)

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
26. I've been screaming about Dugin for the last week.
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 05:25 PM
Jan 2017

Yes, Dugin is almost surely the architect of America's current mess.
Bannon is almost surely a Duginist.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
27. Yes, you and josh cryer, and I've saved and linked
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 05:30 PM
Jan 2017

Your post in another thread to direct more people to learn more about this evil, geopolitical mastermind.

Have you read the papers in the Wiki footnotes that written about him by think tanks?

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
28. In order to get a reaction, would it be fair to
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 05:42 PM
Jan 2017

Refer to Dugin's The Foundations of Geopolitics: The Geopolitical Future of Russia as the Mein Kampf of the new millenium? Maybe then people will start paying attention.

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