The Messy Truth with Van Jones - Last Night

[hamsterjill]

Did anyone else watch it? With Whoopi Goldberg?

In this episode, there was a segment where Van had previously interviewed some coal miners. There was one who was "famous" for an exchange with Hillary Clinton. Van asked him whether or not he would have voted for Hillary had the coal mining subject not been an issue.

His response was, of course, no. Because he is pro-life - all the while lamenting that "people think we are one issue voters and we're not".

Bullshit. It's always about abortion for these people!

Here's a transcript:

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/matthew-balan/2017/01/25/

[ginnyinWI]

1. Wedge issues.

Trot out things like "abortion" every few years and that settles the votes for so many. Not that the candidate is going to do anything about it!

[get the red out]

2. It absolutely is

The preachers tell them how to vote.

[BlueCaliDem]

26. They really need to crack down on those tax-evading 'churches' politicizing from the pulpit.

Not doing anything to hold these propagandists accountable (via their pocketbooks) - like taking their tax-exempt status - is why it's getting worse and worse every election year.

They politicize from the pulpit with impunity!

[lapucelle]

3. Newsbusters? Really?

[hamsterjill]

4. I watched the CNN show last night, couldn't find video, read the transcript at that site,

And it is correct and accurate as to what I saw live last night.

Is that a problem?

[lapucelle]

5. Here's a link to the full transcript at CNN.

Here's the relevant part.

JONES: You know you got famous because of the challenge you laid out to Hillary Clinton. If Hillary Clinton had a different position on coal mining, would you have voted for her?

B. COPLEY: No, sir.

JONES: Why not?

B. COPLEY: On the very fact alone of pro-life.

JONES: So many pundits have said if she hadn't offended those coal miners they would have voted for her. They don't know your heart. They didn't know that there was something underneath that that you also were concerned about.

B. COPLEY: Everyone always thinks that we're one topic people, you know.

LARDIERI: Like regional, yeah.

B. COPLEY: Yeah. And we're not.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1701/25/se.01.html

[hamsterjill]

6. Bless your heart!

Thank you!

[Nay]

7. Well, of course it's the wedge issues for so many of these people. I fail to see why

you're surprised. The religious nuts and bigots truly do think this way. They're not about facts -- just what fits into their ideologies the best.

[hamsterjill]

8. It's not that I'm surprised.

It's that I stay outraged that there is not enough attention paid to this fact.

I would say that 85% of the Trump voters who I know personally vote Republican because of the issue of abortion. Nothing else matters to them. Obviously, they have been willing to put a maniac in office as long as he claims to be "pro life".

The Republicans have used this issue masterfully over the last decades to divide and conquer.

[Nay]

19. Yeah, I stay outraged too. Mainly because there seems to be no way to dislodge them

from our lives. Sad, huh? It's going to take a second civil war, and by then we'll be overwhelmed by climate change.

[sarcasmo]

9. That's why changing a Republican voters mind is pointless. Abortion is #1 to the Republican.

We have to reach the 45 million who didn't vote.

[hamsterjill]

10. You are exactly, 100% right.

"Getting along" with Republican voters is impossible because they won't compromise. "Getting along" in their dictionary means capitulating to their demands. Our only hope are the people who didn't vote.

[TrekLuver]

13. Not main street Republicans

[Osakagreg]

11. Van Jones is my hero

Van Jones is really careful about how he tries to approach and reach out to the idiots. And I do believe that requires a careful and thoughtful approach.

God, Jeffrey Lord drives me crazy. All he does is talk about the Reagan era and tries to relate it to today.

[hamsterjill]

15. When I saw that Jeffrey Lord was coming on, I turned the television off.

I didn't see the segment last night, but I've seen Jeffrey Lord more times than I'd like to count. He is the male version of Kellyanne and he makes me want to barf!

[TrekLuver]

12. I know ....uh yeah ...duh of course you are one issue voters and you just admitted it...but what

really annoyed me was Van Jones lapping it up. He should of pointed that right out...that no matter what Hillary said or did they were not going to get his vote because of his one issue. Gets me sick.

[hamsterjill]

14. You know, I actually was hoping Whoopi was going to be a little bit stronger, too.

I felt like she placated too much to the people asking questions. She also said that what Madonna had said at the rally was "wrong".

I was hoping she would have been a bit more steadfast in support of the Dems.

[TrekLuver]

16. I was in and out of the room so I didn't see the whole thing...but correct me if I'm wrong here but

remember the man who's son died from the heroin "kill bag"...did Whoopi offer condolences? I think Van Jones even said before you answer I know you want to express your condolences...and then she didn't. Did I miss something ???

I saw a sneak peek of this program the other night so I had already saw what the West VA voters said in the first part...so when they came on I just switched the channel completely. I really could not watch it again.

And I'm really sick of all this outreach to Trashpot voters. Why do I not see the "other" side being reached out to...why does this look like a one way street.

[hamsterjill]

17. No, you didn't miss anything.

I noticed that, as well. That Van gave Whoopi the opportunity to say something to console and she didn't. I'm not sure if it was on purpose because the discussion was changing topics rapidly, etc., but you didn't miss anything.

I, too, am sick of the outreach. I don't need to understand the Trump voters. I understand them just fine. They are hate filled and ignorant. I also understand that they are never going to change and are never going to compromise. It'll either be their way or the highway, particularly on the abortion issue.

I'm not likely to change MY mind on that issue either, so we are at a standoff. It's their turn to give this time because that particular issue is none of their damn business. It's a private matter.

[TrekLuver]

18. I have to tell you I'm seeing much much much less of the Trashpot supporters or Trolls on Twitter.

It's like night and day here. I am tweeting this moment to an abortion nut....here's a little sample: How many children have you adopted? I say castrate the men who are impregnating these women! You want to control my pussy then I want to control your nuts. Then let all these men raise these children since they are so righteous. I believe everybody should get an abortion and I want to force that opinion on you.

It just makes Whoopi look bad by not offering a "so sorry" etc...I can't even imagine not saying that. I deal with elderly customers where i work and they call to report deaths. NEVER have I had no empathy for the caller. To me it would be natural to offer a condolence.

[mountain grammy]

20. I love Van Jones

Saw him at the march last Saturday. But I don't think I can watch this..Though I planned to. These people aren't honest about their beliefs... I'm sorry, a man who is for forced birth is anti woman, period, and will never vote for one.

[Jim Beard]

21. Last night was the second time I have seen it. CNN cut out a minute about the big was going to have

I saw another one tonight and I am getting fed up with unions. Seems like that always vote against us. They make damn good wages and vote republican. Fuck Coal and I'll start riding a bike.

Van had two different groups and one was coal miners with one guy wearing an NRA cap in one of them and the other was a group of auto workers. I believe in unions but I think some, when working make too much money.

[Maru Kitteh]

22. That assclown would not have voted for Hillary if she was anti-choice.

The body language between he and his wife when she was in tears was all it took for me to flip the channel.

That guy will starch and iron his penis with a waffle-maker before he votes for a Democratic woman.

[we can do it]

23. Very disappointed with Van Jones.

The show was awful.

[JI7]

24. nope , VAn Jones was right on election night when he said it was a Whitelash

don't care for all this bs.

[Jim Beard]

25. The Democrats are always kissing the unions ass. I am fed up with it. Just like farmers

Who don't vote for Democrats. Screw them, lets go after a state that has a lot more electoral votes.