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Why does Trump's statement on Holocaust RemDay neglect to cite the (6 million) Jews who were killed? (Original Post) bigtree Jan 2017 OP
His extra large number of nazi fans might provide a reason. Mc Mike Jan 2017 #1
Bannon hates the Jews Generator Jan 2017 #2
Just about as bad is that whomever wrote this, had the arrogance to say pangaia Jan 2017 #3
Bannon wrote it. He also wrote the document proclaiming Maru Kitteh Jan 2017 #4
It wasn't just Jews. Archae Jan 2017 #5
The term "Holocaust" refers specifically to the genocidal actions against the Jews. RedWedge Jan 2017 #6
I know. Archae Jan 2017 #7
Every death is a tragedy but changing the character of the Holocaust should be reserved for... DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #12
That's a narrow view that ignores nearly 50% of systemic victims mythology Jan 2017 #15
To deny the unique character of the Holocaust is the basis for Holocaust revisionism DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #16
International Holocaust Remembrance Day Mosby Jan 2017 #11
Not everybody uses the narrower definition mythology Jan 2017 #14
that's accurate and important bigtree Jan 2017 #9
Their machinery of death was SPECIFICALLY targeted towards getting rid of Jews on industrial level uponit7771 Jan 2017 #20
Bannon and some others do not like Jewish people. MineralMan Jan 2017 #8
Trump didn't write it AJT Jan 2017 #10
It is a deliberate omission. Of course other groups were targeted by Nazi Germany. But this is anneboleyn Jan 2017 #13
Drumpf uses his Jewish daughter and son in law as beards. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #17
Reagan left a wreath for the Waffen SS graves in Bitburg struggle4progress Jan 2017 #18
"Bonzo goes to Bitburg". Mc Mike Feb 2017 #23
Puzzling and troubling" bigtree Jan 2017 #19
I agree. Behind the Aegis Jan 2017 #22
'Cuz they're JOOOOOOOZZZZ, and don't worship Jeebus hatrack Jan 2017 #21

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
3. Just about as bad is that whomever wrote this, had the arrogance to say
Fri Jan 27, 2017, 02:34 PM
Jan 2017

he will do everything he can to see that the forces of evil will be defeated by the powers of good.

Talk about, ass-backward !!

Maru Kitteh

(28,313 posts)
4. Bannon wrote it. He also wrote the document proclaiming
Fri Jan 27, 2017, 02:40 PM
Jan 2017

Tangorang's inauguration a "Day of Patriotic Devotion."

Archae

(46,301 posts)
5. It wasn't just Jews.
Fri Jan 27, 2017, 02:50 PM
Jan 2017

Eastern European and Russian POW's, gays, the "feeble minded," Gypsies, intellectuals, etc.

Nazi Germany had a machinery of death, and they used it to eliminate anyone not "true Aryan blood."

RedWedge

(618 posts)
6. The term "Holocaust" refers specifically to the genocidal actions against the Jews.
Fri Jan 27, 2017, 02:52 PM
Jan 2017

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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
12. Every death is a tragedy but changing the character of the Holocaust should be reserved for...
Fri Jan 27, 2017, 03:35 PM
Jan 2017

Every death is a tragedy but changing the character of the Holocaust should be reserved for Holocaust deniers.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
15. That's a narrow view that ignores nearly 50% of systemic victims
Fri Jan 27, 2017, 04:25 PM
Jan 2017

To my mind, that view point is the one denying part of the Holocaust. Yes the Nazis were most successful in targeting Jewish people, But they also had an express goal of killing all the ethnic Poles as well for examples.

Your view is prioritizing one specific group rather than looking at the entire picture.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
16. To deny the unique character of the Holocaust is the basis for Holocaust revisionism
Fri Jan 27, 2017, 04:31 PM
Jan 2017

To deny the unique character of the Holocaust is the basis for Holocaust revisionism and part and parcel of anti-semitism. I am not remotely surprised Stephen Bannon's puppet Donald Trump is in the midst. The Holocaust was the apotheosis of nearly four hundred years of German anti-semitism that began with Martin Luther.

It reminds me of people who minimize American slavery because African Americans weren't the first people to be enslaved and, well, the Greeks owned slaves too.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
14. Not everybody uses the narrower definition
Fri Jan 27, 2017, 04:16 PM
Jan 2017

For example the Wikipedia page refers to both definitions and cites non-Jewish victims of the Holocaust in the total deaths.

bigtree

(85,975 posts)
9. that's accurate and important
Fri Jan 27, 2017, 03:08 PM
Jan 2017

...still we should recognize the specific, brutal campaign against the Jewish people waged by the Nazi regime termed as the 'Final Solution,' coupled with the Nuremberg Laws which legislated Jews outside of all vestiges of their humanity.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
20. Their machinery of death was SPECIFICALLY targeted towards getting rid of Jews on industrial level
Fri Jan 27, 2017, 10:35 PM
Jan 2017

... that's history as a fact

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
8. Bannon and some others do not like Jewish people.
Fri Jan 27, 2017, 02:57 PM
Jan 2017

Its's a problem they're going to have to figure out, I think.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
13. It is a deliberate omission. Of course other groups were targeted by Nazi Germany. But this is
Fri Jan 27, 2017, 04:07 PM
Jan 2017

Holocaust RemDay, and that means that this official WHITE HOUSE statement should mention the Jews specifically (this doesn't mean that we deny or diminish the horrors that were inflicted on other groups such as the disabled, mentally ill, and terminally ill including children (ill children were murdered -- unknown to their German parents who were told that they died of natural disease-related causes -- in the T-4 program -- or the targeting and mass murder of gay men) . Trump relies very, very, very heavily on the alt-right, and yes many of them are anti-Semitic and many are holocaust deniers. The crap they say about Ivanka and her (Jewish) husband is insane -- but they still consider Trump their savior and Bannon of course loves them. And of course Trump didn't write this -- Bannon wrote it (or one of his minions).

struggle4progress

(118,224 posts)
18. Reagan left a wreath for the Waffen SS graves in Bitburg
Fri Jan 27, 2017, 05:03 PM
Jan 2017

Maybe this is just another Republican effort to highlight 'alternative facts' about the Nazi genocide

Mc Mike

(9,111 posts)
23. "Bonzo goes to Bitburg".
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 09:01 AM
Feb 2017

Deaver scored a duty-free Benz from that trip.

They originally said that the wreath was for both German and American dead soldiers, then it turned out there were no American troops buried there.

hatrack

(59,574 posts)
21. 'Cuz they're JOOOOOOOZZZZ, and don't worship Jeebus
Fri Jan 27, 2017, 10:37 PM
Jan 2017

Oh, and the fact that his staff are ahistorical idiots might have something to do with it as well.

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