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Senators and House members expressed a range of concerns about the task ahead: how to prepare a replacement plan that can be ready to launch at the time of repeal; how to avoid deep damage to the health insurance market; how to keep premiums affordable for middle-class families; even how to avoid the political consequences of defunding Planned Parenthood, the womens health-care organization, as many Republicans hope to do with the repeal of the ACA
"Wed better be sure that were prepared to live with the market weve created with repeal, said Rep. Tom McClintock (R-Calif.). Thats going to be called Trumpcare. Republicans will own that lock, stock and barrel, and well be judged in the election less than two years away.
Our goal, in my opinion, should be not a quick fix. We can do it rapidly but not a quick fix, said Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.). We want a long-term solution that lowers costs.
Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) warned his colleagues that the estimated budget savings from repealing Obamacare which Republicans say could approach a half-trillion dollars would be needed to fund the costs of setting up a replacement. This is going to be what well need to be able to move to that transition, he said.
Rep. Pete Sessions (R-Tex.) worried that one idea floated by Republicans a refundable tax credit would not work for middle-class families that cannot afford to prepay their premiums and wait for a tax refund.
Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.), who has drafted his own bill to reform the Affordable Care Act, said in response, It sounds like we are going to be raising taxes on the middle class in order to pay for these new credits.
Rep. Kevin Brady (R-Tex.), who chairs a key tax-writing subcommittee, countered, I dont see it that way, adding that there is a tax break on employer-sponsored health care and nowhere else equal to $3.6 trillion over 10 years.
Could you unlock just a small portion at the top to be able to give that freedom ? That is the question, Brady said.
Rep. John Faso (R-N.Y.), a freshman congressman from the Hudson Valley, warned strongly against using the repeal of the ACA to also defund Planned Parenthood. We are just walking into a gigantic political trap if we go down this path of sticking Planned Parenthood in the health insurance bill, he said. If you want to do it somewhere else, I have no problem, but I think we are creating a political minefield for ourselves House and Senate.
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bravenak
(34,648 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Denzil_DC
(7,232 posts)When congressional Republicans went off to Philadelphia for a retreat this week, they hoped to make at least some progress toward a consensus about how to proceed with repealing and replacing Obamacare.
However, secret recordings of closed-door discussions at the retreat obtained by the Washington Posts Mike DeBonis reveal that the party remains divided, uncertain, and deeply concerned about how to move forward.
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/27/14417272/republicans-obamacare-secret-tape-leak
lastlib
(23,213 posts)Let's stick the WHOLE. FRICKIN'. PARTY. with the tag; they gonna own it, let's name it after 'em!
geomon666
(7,512 posts)they'll still repeal it and leave millions of people in the dust.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Only how it might affect their reelection changes.
The republican party will kill way more Americans than any other terrorist org, by far!
Dem2
(8,168 posts)And sleep just fine at night too.
Ignorance is bliss
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)And claim to be Pro-Life at the same time!
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)montana_hazeleyes
(3,424 posts)They are heartless and evil.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)Not one mention of the death panel they become in doing this and all of the Americans they will sentence to death for what they perceive as a political move to make their corporate Donors happy.
Warpy
(111,245 posts)The glimmer of disquiet in the back of those reptilian minds is because they know there will be hell to pay when dumb people who vote Republican find out the ACA is the same as Obamacare and they don't have it any more.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Now the working class hating republicans are chomping at the bit to kill ACA, Social Security, Medicare etc
They can't blame Obama or the democratic party this time, its all on them.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)We know it's only those who fear losing in the midterms or?
jmg257
(11,996 posts)"Wed better be sure that were prepared to live with the market weve created with repeal, said Rep. Tom McClintock (R-Calif.). Thats going to be called Trumpcare. Republicans will own that lock, stock and barrel, and well be judged in the election less than two years away.
Our goal, in my opinion, should be not a quick fix. We can do it rapidly but not a quick fix, said Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.). We want a long-term solution that lowers costs.
Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) warned his colleagues that the estimated budget savings from repealing Obamacare which Republicans say could approach a half-trillion dollars would be needed to fund the costs of setting up a replacement. This is going to be what well need to be able to move to that transition, he said.
Rep. Pete Sessions (R-Tex.) worried that one idea floated by Republicans a refundable tax credit would not work for middle-class families that cannot afford to prepay their premiums and wait for a tax refund.
Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.), who has drafted his own bill to reform the Affordable Care Act, said in response, It sounds like we are going to be raising taxes on the middle class in order to pay for these new credits.
Rep. Kevin Brady (R-Tex.), who chairs a key tax-writing subcommittee, countered, I dont see it that way, adding that there is a tax break on employer-sponsored health care and nowhere else equal to $3.6 trillion over 10 years.
Could you unlock just a small portion at the top to be able to give that freedom [to self-employed Americans]? That is the question, Brady said.
Rep. John Faso (R-N.Y.), a freshman congressman from the Hudson Valley, warned strongly against using the repeal of the ACA to also defund Planned Parenthood. We are just walking into a gigantic political trap if we go down this path of sticking Planned Parenthood in the health insurance bill, he said. If you want to do it somewhere else, I have no problem, but I think we are creating a political minefield for ourselves House and Senate.
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eleny
(46,166 posts)lastlib
(23,213 posts)They own it, let's name it after 'em!
Worktodo
(288 posts)It was a grand bargain that had to please a lot of stakeholders. So yeah for everyone there are parts to like and to dislike. Seems unlikely the GOP will be able to find something achievable without a couple of years of effort (or a tremendous backlash on multiple fronts.)
Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)suegeo
(2,573 posts)"If you want to do it somewhere else, I have no problem" re: cutting women's health care.
Sit on it and spin Faso.
On edit: maybe he is simply a stupid mo-fo. Do it somewhere else, you still get a problem, dummie. Did you see the women marching just a week ago. Fucking new guy.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)there, ... fixed.
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GoCubsGo
(32,079 posts)May the disarray carry over to everything else they do.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)running around trying to grasp 3D Chess...... They will never have replacement cause they are not capable of creating one!
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)But,gosh, it sure sucks when reality sets in.
Thing is, they were TOO GOOD with the ACA campaign rhetoric. Now, they have to put their money where their mouth is. That is a prettttty tall order. And they made it their cornerstone.
Cha
(297,152 posts)that's right rethugs don't WORK.
2naSalit
(86,536 posts)renate
(13,776 posts)Pete Sessions being aware that a tax credit won't work for people who can't afford to wait for a refund... I am genuinely surprised that he realizes that millions of people really do live paycheck to paycheck. It feels weird for me to say this, but I'm impressed by his acknowledgment of the realities of life for most Americans. I honestly wouldn't have thought a Republican would have had it in him.
wishstar
(5,268 posts)The Repub scheme for privatizing Social Security floated by W Bush to give people Wall Street options would similarly have cost astronomical sum to set up with no quarantee anyone would benefit except the financial industry making money from fees and stock traders.
The heartless R's are dead set on eliminating subsidies rather than "fixing" ACA by increasing the subsidies or using tax credits to relieve high premiums of people whose subsidies aren't adequate.