With this announcement, Canada just became a target.

[GliderGuider]

Canada may contribute to Dutch-led international abortion fund

Canada is considering contributing to a Dutch-led international fund to support abortion services in developing countries, set up in response to Donald Trump’s order to halt financing of NGOs that support the practice.

A spokesman for Canada’s international development minister, Marie-Claude Bibeau, told AFP the minister had spoken with her Dutch counterpart about the fund, and was considering donating an unspecified sum to it or a similar measure that would support “sexual reproductive rights, including abortion” abroad.

“Sexual health and reproductive rights will be at the heart of Canada’s new international assistance policy,” spokesman Louis Belanger said in an email.

“We will continue to explore opportunities to work together to advance women’s empowerment by expanding access to sexual and reproductive health services including abortion,” he said.

Because of the self-evident wonderfulness of this news, I think Canada has just cemented its position as a strategic target in the ongoing WWIII of Duginist Russia against global liberalism that is currently devastating the USA. Watch for massive and escalating attacks against Trudeau from the Canadian right, and major propaganda about this action flowing up from the USA.

Because Canada is one of the last fully successful examples of liberalism left in the world, we are next on the menu. The Duginists now have the pretext they need to open a new northern front.

Please, please, please read up on Aleksander Dugin if you don't know what I'm talking about. His strategic goals lie behind everything that has happened in the USA and many other places around the world.

[First Speaker]

1. Wait until Canada becomes the destination for American women seeking abortions...

...I swear, we'll see troops along the US/Canadian border in the Trump-Pence regime...

[GliderGuider]

2. Without a doubt. Along with escalating murders of clinic workers here. nt

[Crash2Parties]

16. "Because Canada is one of the last fully successful examples of liberalism left in the world"

Well....they specifically exclude people who might add cost to the Canadian health care system. Including people with pre-existing conditions which I would assume might include women seeking abortion. Also, unlike some other "liberal" nations they do not (yet) offer full LGBT anti-discrimination protection.

However, that's just concerning who pays for it. Regarding access, once the GOP completely prohibits abortion without exception Canada may be our only option ('cause with Mexico, you know, the wall...).

[Fiendish Thingy]

41. I don't think you know what you're talking about

I moved to BC in 2012, and although we had to have physicals for immigration, there has been no restrictions for our pre-existing conditions. I don't know any immigrants to Canada who have been excluded this way. I think one's health issues would have to be extreme to be excluded from immigrating, and mainly for public health reasons.


Marriage Equality has been the law of the land for many years- I have met a number of LGBT folks who immigrated specifically for that reason.

[Crash2Parties]

55. I've met people in both the Autistic and Trans communities that were denied permanent residency

because of their respective attributes (or of their children).

[Fiendish Thingy]

56. Well, I work with autistic kids in BC

Many of whom are immigrants, so I'm not sure it's a universal exclusion criteria.

[Crash2Parties]

57. I don't doubt you at all.

It may well be up to whoever is making the determination? The section quoted was this;

"An applicant may be refused on health grounds – if their condition: likely to be a danger to public health or public safety, or might reasonably be expected to cause excessive demand on health or social services"

Their guess and I suppose mine, was that the person doing the evaluations may have had a bias against trans people (both people in question had done everything expensive years prior) or was completely ignorant regarding Autism?

Anyway, I'd be really happy to know that isn't the case as one thread of my family goes back a few generations in Canada & I've always felt a slight affection for the country.

[Doitnow]

58. New opportunity for trump to build a northern wall-----to keep us in!

[Crash2Parties]

67. That is just possible enough to be frightening. We are all focused on the other reason presented...

[OnlinePoker]

19. It is my firm belief the Trump administration will invade Canada within 4 years.

I've been saying this since before the election. It's right out of the German playbook prior to WWII. We speak like you, but you allow those coloured/inferior people in which is a threat to our country so we need to invade to stop that threat.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

34. I think he would try Mexico first. Mexican winters are easier than Canadian winters. . . nt

[Eyeball_Kid]

42. I get the parallel, but I suspect that the social conditions here don't compare

to the social conditions of 1930s Germany. While I understand that, at the beginning of Hitler's ascendancy, there WERE massive protests, they died down as Hitler kept demonizing easy marks. Here and now, we HAVE the historical knowledge of the Hitler-setting precedent, and we have, as we are now seeing, a vibrant and longer term resistance. Folks in the US are now "getting it", helped to a large extent by Trumpy's incendiary EOs. They see the dangers and they aren't fooled. And that segment is growing. So Trumpy will have an increasingly difficult time convincing the nation that he's doing the right thing, or that he even deserves a "wait and see" approach. He's quickly unifying a political resistance movement that is directing anger at both himself and the GOP. It's not been done before. Not like this.

Trumpy will either be gone (or on the way out) in six months or you WILL have something to fear. It will mean that the resistance floundered and propaganda won.

[IronLionZion]

63. America is more diverse than people think

A big part of the civil rights movement was to get immigration reform back in the 60s. Diversity increased tremendously as we opened up immigration to non-European countries.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

26. "Destination Abortions" will certainly be available to women with money.

The others will need help, after "our leader" outlaws and/or defunds the locally available safe options.

[central scrutinizer]

27. Wealthy women have always had choice

Fly to Europe for a short "vacation". Abortion restrictions are always about working class women

[alfredo]

64. For us working class people, we'd pass the hat or have pay parties.

We paid for the trip to New York and the medical costs.

[winetourdriver01]

3. War

I just hit the rec button for this: "Ongoing WWIII of Duginist Russia again global liberalism" That puts the whole situation in one very easy to understand sentence. This is a war of fascism vs. liberalism. I live in California, and we are definitely in the new (fascist) administration's cross hairs. We are liberal, we are successful, our economy is vast enough to basically carry the whole country. This is a slap in the face to the fascists, and they cannot let it stand. Remember, in Gov. Brown's state of the state speech he basically told the Trump administration to piss off.

[GliderGuider]

4. Eeeyup! Thanks for the rec.

I've been looking for a capsule explanation of the situation. I'm glad this one resonated.

[Delphinus]

49. I heard him

on Science Friday today - gosh he is passionate! I am glad you have him.

[smirkymonkey]

5. K&R

[Bayard]

6. You think?

You think Canada is going to pay for a wall on our northern border?

[sarcasmo]

7. Canada, the new leader of the West.

[LongTomH]

8. K&R for Truth!!!!

I'll be following this story.

Thanks, also for the reference to Aleksander Dugin.

[GliderGuider]

9. My pleasure!

[Ligyron]

18. YES! Those names and their strategy against Liberalism needs to circulate widely.

Most people have no clue.

As usual...

[SCVDem]

10. To continue L O'D's theme

Here is yet another embarrassment for the pResident.

Mexico, The UK and now Canada all refute what tRump is doing and make it quite public.

Fair payback for the Twit in Chief!

NOT MY PRESIDENT! Can we call a mulligan?

[AlexSFCA]

23. guys

do not take anything for granted. A "jihadist" attack in Canada may fundamentaly change the political landscape of the country. Never lose sight of the end goal. Islam is used as a wedge issue to instigate fear and convince peopel that it is liberal policies to blame. The end goal is elimination of liberalism - 'traditional values'. This has allowed Brexit and Trump (both with putin's help). France, Netherlands, Germany, Italy - coming soon.

[erronis]

31. Oh, you made me look up mulligan.

Just for that I will suggest we call the Twit-in-Chief "Bozo with a merkin on top". (My apologies to all the merkins worn elsewhere. Sometime in the past I might have substituted a vowel in twit.)

[SCVDem]

32. Every golfer

Knows what a mulligan is. (What? I only get one?!!!)

I forgot not everyone golfs. Sorry.

Neat word though, isn't it?

[erronis]

35. I thought it was related to mulligatawny (Ind.) soup. Not as neat as "merkin", however.

Especially as applied to the head of the Pussy Grabber In Chief.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkin

[justhanginon]

11. K & R

[NBachers]

12. Invade Canada and Nuke the Dutch!

[BSdetect]

13. He's now pissed off the two neighboring countries.

Congrats twitler!

You fuckin moran.

[GliderGuider]

14. He may be a moran. His handlers are anything but.

The insane events and announcements that Trump appears to be responsible for are all choregraphed.

Who are they being choreographed by, and why?

The who is the FSB, acting through Bannon et al.
For the why, please please please Google "Alexander Dugin".

This is what WWIII feels like in the 21st century.

[Hekate]

15. KnR

[Sunlei]

65. Republicans backed their great white hope 100% along with their buddies behind fox-lies

11 hours from his last nasty tweet, someone wake the lazy republican great white hope!
Sunlei June, 2016

[ananda]

17. Can we as individuals contribute?

That is a fund worth donating to, I think.

[calimary]

20. I made another donation to Planned Parenthood last night.

I clicked on the option to do it every month.

I stand with Justin Trudeau.

i wonder how soon trump will be picking a fight with Canada. He's already started it with Mexico - that's ONE side of our borders now fucked with. Hey, why not get 'em both stirred up? Target the north now, too, since we just fucked with the south?

And he's picking a fight with China now. And as of this writing, LESS than 24 hours ago, with Iran as well. Who's next? Anybody taking bets?

[AlexSFCA]

21. this is dangerous

Folks, trump administration will stop at nothing in their duginist quest to destroy liberalism.

Massive education outreach is urgently needed. We are so behind at is, no one took it seriously until too late.

Please do what GliderGuider asked: learn about Alexander Dugin, learn about Bannon, there are credible sources - google it. The US has just witnessed a coup with republicans as accomplices! Why? Because many of them were weak and intoxicated themselves with this harmful ideology that 'liberalism' is the cause of all evil in the world and even Russia is much less evil. They convinced themselves that the goal justifies the means. Constitution has nothing to do with it - they don't care about it at all.

The wedge issue of abortion is one of the way for alt right to start gaining power. I am sure other wedge issues (refugees), taxes? are coming.

This ideology when mixed with christian religion and traditional conservatism (and various degrees of racism) is so powerful that it can destroy the western world as we know it - our livelihoods and economies. It will position Russia as the richest and most powerful nation in the world with its most natural resources.

Putin does beleive in climate change and one of the ways to singifcanty slow it down is to wipe out a billion of muslims from the face of the earth and destroy the progress in industrialized nations. Trump is actively provoking an attack on the US soil to create an event and gain an authoritarian power.

Why are we so naive?

[Eyeball_Kid]

43. Using war as a depopulation tool was also taught by

NeoConservative Leo Straus. NeoConservatism uses depopulation to preserve natural resources. War is convenient and efficient; famine and disease aren't as selective.

[BobTheSubgenius]

59. As to "credible sources"....

If Alexander Dugin is considered so far to the extreme right, and propounding such outrageous ideas that he is so beyond the pale as to prompt the National Review to label him "evil." I take that assessment as pretty damned authoritative.

[tenorly]

22. Michael Moore saw this coming 20+ years ago.

Canadian Bacon.

[Tikki]

24. Will US Women, of certain ages, have to pee on a stick if they leave this Country for a vacation!!!

Tikki

[zentrum]

25. America is over

....as an idea and paradigm.

[teezy]

28. I'm a Canadian

who lives on 38 acres. I offer my backyard as refuge to anyone with a tent or trailer. I am so unbelievably heartbroken for all of you trapped down there.

[SCVDem]

33. Mini House Okay?

No bigger than a shipping container.

Where are you?

[teezy]

44. I'm about an hour and a half north of Toronto

If you want to PM me, we can chat. I can't initiate messages yet because I don't have enough posts.

[LiberalLovinLug]

29. Soon we may have our very own Drumph with Kevin O'leary

Some of you may know him from the reality TV show The Shark Tank. He is the runaway leader of the Conservative party leadership contest up here. Another right wing narcissistic reality star that pushes all the right (wrong) buttons to stir up the deplorables (yes we have our share here too). If Canada follows the world trend of the angry idiots voting in the loudest lying hateful xenophobic RW candidate they can, then we all will have more to worry about.

I can only shudder at the damage that an O'leary/Trump combination would do to North America. To think just a few short months ago I was anticipating a Trudeau/Clinton team working together to fight climate change and other progressive issues. sigh.

[GliderGuider]

30. I know. He scares the shit out of me now. Makes Harper look almost moderate. nt

[Saviolo]

60. I hate O'Leary, but I'm less worried about him

And more worried about Leitch. She's well to the right of Harper, racist, xenophobic, and much smarter than Trump or O'Leary. In fact, I can see O'Leary hitching his boat to her rising star (mixing metaphors, I know).

She's already well positioned against Trudeau after borrowing some of Trump's catchphrases and methods. I'd love to believe that we as Canadians will laugh Leitch and O'Leary into irrelevance, but after watching the US election and (as has been mentioned a few times in this thread) the number of attacks from the right wing press in Canada (the Sun, National Post) has me worried and wary.

[Amaryllis]

36. Any links for good info on Dugin?

[GliderGuider]

37. Here are a few.

Just Google. He's not a secret, except from those who need to know.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Dugin

http://www.publicseminar.org/2016/12/what-does-draining-the-swamp-really-mean/#.WI0Ue1MrIck

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Dugin

http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/07/27/geopolitics-russia-mackinder-eurasia-heartland-dugin-ukraine-eurasianism-manifest-destiny-putin/

https://thinkprogress.org/dugin-trump-bannon-2758aeab0a10#.5nfmdkb0z

And the man in his own words:

http://katehon.com/directives/donald-trump-swamp-and-fire

[byronius]

45. Uhhhhh okay good lord that was a scary ride. Holy cow, good kick in the butt.

Some good Russians in that story, too. Important to remember. We're everywhere.

[GliderGuider]

38. Please read AlexSFCA's post above.

The times are far more desperate than any of us nice liberals are willing to admit. Time has run out.

[AlexSFCA]

39. horror

things are escalating very quickly. Justin Treadou is kindly welcoming influx of refugees and possibly others who are denied US entry?

Unfortunately, it is a no-win situation and was likey predicated by Bannon. Massive influx of refugees will quickly activate a movement against current governemnt 'establishment'. Look at propaganda, Justin is being hammered by right wing news outlets. Any accident in Canada blamed on refugees will change your country political landscape VERY quickly.

It is getting more dangerous by the hour. McMullin created a non-partisan movement against trump. I sent him a message with my thoughts, maybe a start.

[GliderGuider]

40. Yeah, Trudeau is going to be in the shit before the end of the day tomorrow.

I've never seen anything but an army coup move this fast.

One thing that amazes me is that they had the assets in place to exploit Trump's win like this. All they were expecting realistically was to kneecap Hillary's Presidency. But then Trump won, and everything/everyone they needed seemed to be in place. This has been planned and war-gamed in depth for several years.

[AlexSFCA]

46. yes

that is only logical conclusion that right wing propaganda "liberalism is the cause of all evil" has been spreading also in Canada over the years and perharps even more so in recent months?

Most likely on auto-pilot - chain reaction from the US. It's probably unlikely that putin would be spending his influence specifically on Canada.

[GliderGuider]

68. And there you have it. I was correct. Before the end of the day on Sunday.

FYI: My latest analysis post was removed. Even though I think I'm doing a public service here, there are people who don't want to hear what I'm saying.

Stay strong, my american friends.

[GoCubsGo]

47. They are already a target.

They worked with President Obama to make it nearly impossible to legally drill for oil in the Arctic. I'm sure Comrade Trump's oiligarchs are not happy about that.

[GliderGuider]

48. A very good point...

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

50. Holy fuck. OK, so, who will lead us?

We need a united, coordinated resistance.

[HassleCat]

51. And Trudeau threw gasoline on that fire.

He issued a statement affirming Canada's support for refugees. I'll be surprised if we don't launch an air strike on Ottawa by the end of next week.

[Linc13]

52. Are we a Target?

Bring it.

[GliderGuider]

53. Be very careful what you wish for my friend. nt

[Linc13]

54. As the saying goes,

Better to die on your feet, than live on your knees.

There has to be at least one government interested in democracy in North America.

[secondwind]

61. This is a fecking nightmare... K&R

[EllieBC]

62. No I think Trump would welcome other countries paying. That's what he wants. The rest of the GOP

will not like it though.

I do not believe for a moment that Trump has found Jesus and is all moral. I do not think he cares at all about this issue. He cares about the money. He just wants to stop helping other countries, no matter what. So he would be thrilled that someone else will pick up the tab. He's an asshole like that.

Now the rest of the GOP with their moral majority base won't like that other countries will fill the void.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

66. Canada has natural resources. They have no reason to fear anybody.

Last time we invaded Canada we were humiliated, see War of 1812.

[madokie]

69. If I was younger and in better shape

and better health I'd be giving Canada a serious look about right now.

[GliderGuider]

70. I'm already receiving requests for my basement floor space...

I may become a stop in the New Underground Railroad, helping liberals instead of just blacks.

[Orsino]

71. A target? No.

Most Americans couldn't give less of a fuck about Canada. Until those shining hosers on the hill start making the neocons look bad in the eyes of Trumpistan, the GOP won't care.

[GliderGuider]

72. There are others who care.

Canada is a successful, extremely liberal democracy. There are geopolitical forces that have made the eradication of that one of their missions. I work to try and ensure they fail.

This is not about the GOP any more, as hard as that may be to understand here on DU. This is a global struggle, and the USA is just the current battleground. The plan of those directing the campaign is that once the USA has been taken out of the world picture, they will move on to the other targets. Canada is one of those,