Trumps Immigration Ban Is Illegal

[spanone]

President Trump signed an executive order on Friday that purports to bar for at least 90 days almost all permanent immigration from seven majority-Muslim countries, including Syria and Iraq, and asserts the power to extend the ban indefinitely.

But the order is illegal. More than 50 years ago, Congress outlawed such discrimination against immigrants based on national origin.

That decision came after a long and shameful history in this country of barring immigrants based on where they came from. Starting in the late 19th century, laws excluded all Chinese, almost all Japanese, then all Asians in the so-called Asiatic Barred Zone. Finally, in 1924, Congress created a comprehensive “national-origins system,” skewing immigration quotas to benefit Western Europeans and to exclude most Eastern Europeans, almost all Asians, and Africans.

Mr. Trump appears to want to reinstate a new type of Asiatic Barred Zone by executive order, but there is just one problem: The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 banned all discrimination against immigrants on the basis of national origin, replacing the old prejudicial system and giving each country an equal shot at the quotas. In signing the new law, President Lyndon B. Johnson said that “the harsh injustice” of the national-origins quota system had been “abolished.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/opinion/trumps-immigration-ban-is-illegal.html?_r=0

[Solly Mack]

1. Yeah, well, so was torture.

So...

[spanone]

4. true. some people, like trump, have no regard for the law.

we cannot give up.

[Solly Mack]

6. I agree. We can not give up.

[gopiscrap]

2. Of course it's illegal

these fucking morons don't care. They're just pandering to their ignorant, stupid base.

[spanone]

8. it's amazing that trump's decree is already being implemented and it's illegal.

he's breaking the law. again. we'll see how american values are honored in light of a don trump.

he may win.

i hope not.

[gopiscrap]

10. Me too

[underpants]

12. He has jurisdiction here (unlike other EO's) and they have to follow what they are told

They can resign or ask to go for the night off but other than that they have received their directive legal or not.

[spanone]

14. thanks, i didn't know that.

[HoneyBadger]

3. If the system benefited Western Europeans after 1924, how did Anne Frank get banned?

[etherealtruth]

5. I sure as hell hope it is found to be illegal

[malaise]

7. Of course it is

The Courts will throw this out next week

[GliderGuider]

9. Doesn't matter. The long-range goal is not the ban, but demonization.

The damage is done.

This is a geopolitical war being waged by Russia against the USA. Do you think Putin cares if an immigrant ban is ills illegal. But here we are.

[underpants]

13. Right and to grandstand for his deep dark base

That's what this whole week has been about "SEE! I told you I would!"

[GliderGuider]

15. It's not just grandstanding, it's dogwhistle.

He's letting his base know that the President is OK with virtually any actions taken against "them".

Think Rwanda here.

[underpants]

17. Sharpened car bumpers

I remember reading that about Rwanda. Not saying it will happen here but seeing that humans were instantly creating ways to kill other human beings was a real eye opener.

[dawg]

11. So?

[Rex]

16. But the GOP is doing it...they are immune from prosecution in the media and government.

It's a proven fact.

[MichMary]

18. Just saw this on FB in regard to this law:

Section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 states: Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.

So--apparently not illegal.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

20. That's basically what this NYT article indicated a few months ago.

And if Elected: What President Trump Could or Couldn’t Do
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/04/opinion/campaign-stops/and-if-elected-what-president-trump-could-or-couldnt-do.html?_r=1

And he could bar Muslims from entering the country under existing law, which authorizes him to bar classes of aliens whose entry he determines “would be detrimental to the interests of the United States.” It wouldn’t be the first time: President Ronald Reagan cited this law, as well as his inherent constitutional powers, to block a flood of Haitian migrants from pouring into United States territory in 1981.

I'd be interested in the wording of the EO, though.

[shraby]

21. There is one superceding that one. It was passed in 1965

[chowder66]

19. If people comply/follow these orders then what will they do if Trump has them execute people?

Will they stand up then or wait until they are sitting in a chair at trial explaining that they were just following orders?

This is deeply concerning and no one should comply with his batshit crazy EO's.