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Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 02:56 AM Jan 2017

Steve Bannon is the man behind the curtain...

A la OZ. Ignore the man behind the curtain. I think that like with Cheney who pulled Bush's marionette strings Bannon is the one influencing if not outright controlling Trump. Trump of course is not the meek pathetic idiot that Bush ways. He's an egomaniac, and a tyrant. But that doesn't mean he can't be used and manipulated, indeed if you know how such people can be easily steered. I see a lot of Bannon in some of what is happening.

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Steve Bannon is the man behind the curtain... (Original Post) Locut0s Jan 2017 OP
Suspected, but now we know for sure. Lucinda Jan 2017 #1
Trump is intellectually lazy oldtime dfl_er Jan 2017 #2
I hope orangecrush Jan 2017 #3
Our government is run by a crazy Russian puppet and a virulent Nazi guiding his hand. dalton99a Jan 2017 #4
Precisely! As Cheney was to Bush, Bannon is to Trump... VOX Jan 2017 #5
Bannon is one of the few real ideologues in Trump's inner circle... Locut0s Jan 2017 #7
Excellent analysis. And now Bannon's got a national security role... VOX Jan 2017 #10
Yeah I saw that. That's terrifying. :-( Locut0s Jan 2017 #16
We're gonna need a bigger boat. Cracklin Charlie Jan 2017 #6
Strategically, is it better to advance this view okwmember Jan 2017 #8
You may be right... EarthFirst Jan 2017 #9
Keeping Bannon chained to Spencer is a must! okwmember Jan 2017 #13
This is ALL Banon. He had said that his goal is to upend everything. AgadorSparticus Jan 2017 #11
"Lenin wanted to destroy the state, and that's my goal too." VOX Jan 2017 #12
I think so too bdamomma Jan 2017 #14
K&R bdamomma Jan 2017 #15

oldtime dfl_er

(6,931 posts)
2. Trump is intellectually lazy
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 02:59 AM
Jan 2017

He doesn't know, nor does he care to know, anything about how government works. It appears that he is treating the US like a private corporation that he owns. He has turned over the day to day operations and all he has to do is show up and sign what's put in front of him. Bannon on the other hand is well educated, crafty and farsighted. And evil.

dalton99a

(81,451 posts)
4. Our government is run by a crazy Russian puppet and a virulent Nazi guiding his hand.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 03:13 AM
Jan 2017

Stephen K. Bannon at a campaign rally for Donald J. Trump on Oct. 28 in Manchester, N.H

VOX

(22,976 posts)
5. Precisely! As Cheney was to Bush, Bannon is to Trump...
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 03:19 AM
Jan 2017

This guy's ideology is an insane mashup of his heroes: Hitler, Lenin and today's Aleksandr Gelyevich Dugin. Everything Bannon does/says can be looped right back to these hatemongering extremists. He is dangerous.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/22/steve-bannon-trump-s-top-guy-told-me-he-was-a-leninist.html
Last year, Bannon said, “I'm a Leninist...Lenin wanted to destroy the state, and that's my goal too. ... Bannon was employing Lenin's strategy for Tea Party populist goals. He included in that group the Republican and Democratic Parties, as well as the traditional conservative press."

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
7. Bannon is one of the few real ideologues in Trump's inner circle...
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 03:40 AM
Jan 2017

His ideology is a particular potpourri grab bag of crazy, but he's one of the few who would seem to claim to have a "vision". The rest of his crew, including Trump himself, are in it for what seem to be a mix of selfish reasons. Many I think just want to line their pockets with loot as they pillage and plunder what is left of the American middle class. Others possibly for simple career advancement and personal power trips. Trump is certainly in it for power, but even simpler than that he has a hard on for seeing his name in lights, and no lights shine brighter than the words POTUS after your name. Otherwise he doesn't really give much of a shit about what happens IMHO, so long as he looks good to himself doing it.

It's always the ideologues who are the really fucking scary ones though. Because more anarchic tyrannies tend to be too scatter brained and uncoordinated to bring about the type of far reaching global terror the likes of which Bannon's heroes did. Ideologues have a clear focused goal in mind which drives them, and they quickly sweep up the more lazy pillagers around them in their fervour. Their drive and momentum is infectious and unbelievably dangerous.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
10. Excellent analysis. And now Bannon's got a national security role...
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 07:52 AM
Jan 2017

"The Guardian" just did a piece on Bannon, which looks at his broader responsibilities (can't link, am accessing site via iPhone app):
"President Donald Trump granted controversial adviser Steve Bannon a regular seat at meetings of the National Security Council on Saturday, in a presidential memorandum that brought the former Breitbart publisher into some of the most sensitive meetings at the highest levels of government..."

okwmember

(345 posts)
8. Strategically, is it better to advance this view
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 07:09 AM
Jan 2017

that Bannon is the power or brain behind the throne or to go directly at Trump? Part of me says this idea will help because Trump will hate that he is not being seen as the one in control and come to resent Bannon's presence. But then I wonder if this lets Trump off the hook and gives people a reason to believe that he is just a patsy being manipulated.

Just wondering what others think. The whole damn lot of them are reprehensible scumbags, just not sure the best way to go about the fight.

EarthFirst

(2,900 posts)
9. You may be right...
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 07:50 AM
Jan 2017

...and in an effort to further this strategy; it is very necessary to tie Richard Spencer to Bannon. There is ONE degree of separation here between white house policy and the decades old white, ethnocentric nationalist movement.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
11. This is ALL Banon. He had said that his goal is to upend everything.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 07:58 AM
Jan 2017

He wants to create anarchy. Break everything down.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
12. "Lenin wanted to destroy the state, and that's my goal too."
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 07:59 AM
Jan 2017

Genuine quote by Steve Bannon. He's an ambitious little troll. But I do not underestimate him.

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
14. I think so too
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 08:31 AM
Jan 2017

He is a Leninist he wants to see the end of liberalism.

There has been a lot of threads here explaining what is exactly is being done.

If we start with these three threads read them. And just think about it. Bannon is in the state department that is very dangerous given his ideas to tear apart the state/country.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028546674


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028555281#post5

http://katehon.com/article/president-trump-and-americas-post-liberal-future

One of these threads is telling us to tell our Senators NO TO TILLERSON, We need to see Trumps tax Returns, and Investigate the Steele Dossier.


And

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/ex-christian-from-duggar-cult-explains-why-we-should-be-more-afraid-of-mike-pence-than-trump/

We see how Muslims are being targeted this a culture and religious war between Christianity and Islam we can see this this is why Pence is in. Why do they want to move the Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem??? This all part of their plan. To have unrest in the region.


Why is tRump saying only Christians can enter into the US? And trying to make America a white nationalist country. Why is California and NY being focused on it is because they want to end Liberalism.

These threads here give information into their main plan.
The thread The Beginning of the End, which I have posted and read needs to be read. It holds some truth, if there is anyway we could digest this and possibly send to someone like Rachel Maddow maybe she could report on it.

Trump is only a tool, and needs to be removed, he is following directions from Bannon and Putin both dangerous men.

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