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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSuspect in Quebec Mosque Attack Quickly Depicted as a Moroccan Muslim. He's a White Nationalist.
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UPDATE: CONFIRMED:
Alexandre Bissonnette Identified As Quebec Mosque Shooting Suspect
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/01/30/alexandre-bissonnette-mohamed-khadir_n_14495374.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-city-mosque-attack-alexandre-bissonnette-1.3958559
http://www.salon.com/2017/01/30/canadian-mosque-shooting-suspect-was-a-white-man-who-showed-support-for-donald-trump-on-social-media/Link to tweet
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/01/30/the-white-house-just-cited-the-quebec-mosque-attack-to-justify-trumps-policies.htmlLink to tweet
A MASS SHOOTING at a Quebec City mosque last night left six people dead and eight wounded. The targeted mosque, the Cultural Islamic Center of Quebec, was the same one at which a severed pigs head was left during Ramadan last June. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau called the episode a terrorist attack on Muslims.
Almost immediately, various news outlets and political figures depicted the shooter as Muslim. Right-wing nationalist tabloids in the UK instantly linked it to Islamic violence. Fox News claimed that witnesses said at least one gunman shouted Allahu akbar!, and then added this about the shooters national origin:
Link to tweet
White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer exploited the attack to justify President Trumps ban on immigrants from seven Muslim-majority countries. Its a terrible reminder of why we must remain vigilant and why the President is taking steps to be proactive rather than reactive when it comes to our nations safety and security, Spicer said at this afternoons briefing when speaking of the Quebec City attack.
But these assertions are utterly false. The suspect is neither Moroccan nor Muslim. The Moroccan individual, Mohamed el Khadir, was actually one of the worshippers at the mosque and called 911 to summon the police, and played no role whatsoever in the shooting.
The actual shooting suspect is 27-year-old Alexandre Bissonnette, a white French Canadian who is, by all appearances, a rabid anti-immigrant nationalist. A leader of a local immigration rights groups, François Deschamps, told a local paper he recognized his photo as an anti-immigrant far-right troll who has been hostile to the group online. And Bisonnettes Facebook page now taken down but still archived lists among its likes the far right French nationalist Marine Le Pen, Islam critics Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens, the Israeli Defense Forces, and Donald J. Trump (he also likes the liberal Canadian Party NDP along with more neutral likes such as Tom Hanks, the Sopranos and Katy Perry).
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/30/suspect-in-quebec-mosque-attack-quickly-depicted-as-a-moroccan-muslim-hes-a-white-nationalist/
http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexandre-bissonnette-quebec-city-mosque-gunman-photos-pictures-facebook/
malaise
(268,693 posts)just alternative facts - disgusting
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lunatica
(53,410 posts)So no apologies here!
ck4829
(35,038 posts)Because even if he did say "Allahu Ackbar", it must be because only Muslims have the neurological capabilities to say those two words and voice them.
Oh great, they're immune to mental illness AND only they can say certain words.
get the red out
(13,460 posts)They will say it is an anti-trump cover-up taking over and covering up the "real killer".
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)It's part of Bannon's Twitter plan.
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)They started the Syrian refugee lie minutes after the reports surfaced of the mosque shooting.
Link to tweet
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)When will Trump speak out against this threat?
JohnnyRingo
(18,618 posts)Turnabout, and all that.
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)safeinOhio
(32,641 posts)to call back the missiles and B52s
mopinko
(69,990 posts)world wide wally
(21,738 posts)Corrections don't matter
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Time for extreme vetting of Christians entering America from extremist Christian nations, like Russia for example.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)While providing no evidence that this is the case (apart from selectively chosen Facebook "likes" .
I would mention that reputable sources such as the CBC reported that Mohamed Khadir was one of the two suspects and also reported that a witness said he heard the takbir shouted out (complete with audio of the witness stating as such in the interview).
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"states as fact that the shooter was a white nationalist..."
Not stated as fact... the relevant qualifiers are present in the following statement; "a white French Canadian who is, by all appearances, a rabid anti-immigrant nationalist."
"providing no evidence that this is the case (apart from selectively..."
Another inaccuracy in your narrative, as an additional piece of evidence is present in the story; "A leader of a local immigration rights groups, François Deschamps, told a local paper he recognized his photo as an anti-immigrant far-right troll who has been hostile to the group online..."
Selectively chosen, indeed; though I admire your tenacity...
oberliner
(58,724 posts)That would be stating something as fact (in the headline, no less).
No evidence is provided that he is a white nationalist apart from Facebook likes (which is no evidence at all). The quote that you cited is of someone accusing him of being an internet troll.
I would point out that the initial reporting that indicated one of the suspects was a Muslim, included a verbatim quote from a witness who said that he heard the shooter shout out Allahu Akbar.
In this article, Glenn Greenwald is doing exactly the same thing that he is accusing other media of doing.
TubbersUK
(1,439 posts)A refugee welcome group in the capital city, however, said Bissonnettes name and photograph were already familiar to them. In a post on Facebook, Bienvenu aux réfugiés said they learned with sadness and anger about the identity of the terrorist Alexandre Bissonnette, unfortunately known by several militants in Quebec City for his viewpoints that were pro-LePen and anti-feminist, as expressed in social media and at Université Laval.
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/quebec+mosque+shooting+suspect+appear+court+monday+afternoon/12809301/story.html
oberliner
(58,724 posts)But to state as fact that he is one (as the headline to this article does) is akin to stating as fact that the shooter was a Muslim based on the fact that a witness claimed to have heard the shooter shout "Allahu Akbar."
manicraven
(901 posts)TubbersUK
(1,439 posts)though largely in French.
More recently picked up by Globe and Mail
Quebec City mosque attack suspect known for right-wing online posts
Vincent Boissoneault, a student in international relations at Laval University, grew up with Mr. Bissonnette and was friends with him on Facebook. He said they frequently clashed on politics when Mr. Bissonnette attacked refugees or expressed support for Ms. Le Pen or Mr. Trump.
"I can tell you he was certainly no Muslim convert. I wrote him off as a xenophobe. I didn't even think of him as totally racist, but he was enthralled by a borderline racist nationalist movement," Mr. Boissoneault said.
François Deschamps, an employment councillor who runs a refugee support Facebook page, said he immediately recognized Mr. Bissonnette's photo. "He was someone who made frequent extreme comments in social media denigrating refugees and feminism. It wasn't outright hate, rather part of this new nationalist conservative identity movement that is more intolerant than
https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/quebec-city-mosque-attack-suspect-known-for-right-wing-online-posts/article33833044/
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)man is not worth trusting
PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)Alexandre Bissonnette, described by neighbors and acquaintances as a socially awkward introvert who had recently adopted virulent political views, was also charged late Monday afternoon with five counts of attempted murder with a restricted firearm. The five surviving victims were still in the hospital, with two of them in critical condition, although hospital officials said their injuries were not life-threatening.
Handcuffed, his feet manacled and wearing a white prison jumpsuit, Bissonnette reportedly looked at the floor throughout the court hearing, aside from casting a brief glance at his lawyer. The prosecutor, Thomas Jacques, indicated that terrorist charges could be added later to the murder and attempted murder charges.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/student-known-for-far-right-sympathies-charged-in-canada-mosque-attack/2017/01/30/7e8d39b0-e703-11e6-903d-9b11ed7d8d2a_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_canada-815pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.65d137e89222
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)three weeks from now, buried two links deep on the fourth page of their Web site.
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)Baier.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Meaning Trump voters are on board with the "official" alternative fact.
TubbersUK
(1,439 posts)"I can tell you he was certainly no Muslim convert. I wrote him off as a xenophobe. I didn't even think of him as totally racist, but he was enthralled by a borderline racist nationalist movement," Mr. Boissoneault said.
François Deschamps, an employment councillor who runs a refugee support Facebook page, said he immediately recognized Mr. Bissonnette's photo. "He was someone who made frequent extreme comments in social media denigrating refugees and feminism. It wasn't outright hate, rather part of this new nationalist conservative identity movement that is more intolerant than
https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/quebec-city-mosque-attack-suspect-known-for-right-wing-online-posts/article33833044/
TubbersUK
(1,439 posts)More witness accounts regarding his politics and confirmation that it was known by noon that there wasn't a second, Muslim gunman.
http://www.journaldequebec.com/2017/01/30/voici-ce-que-lon-sait-sur-le-suspect-de-la-tuerie-de-la-mosquee
bdamomma
(63,799 posts)it's an attack on Liberalism too, This filthy regime we have is conducting an attack on liberalism too. They are isolating us from the world and it's working too.
This an attack on Prime Minister Trudeau who reached out to Refugees. They are attacking everything we stand for.
Our democracy has been hijacked by these filthy people. tRump, Bannon, Priebus, Spicer and Conway and Putin.