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How much more serious does it need to get before someone does something?
Eliot Rosewater
(31,096 posts)and it is a certainty the rump/bannon team will use nukes.
madokie
(51,076 posts)if not we're truly fucked a lot worse than I thought
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,267 posts)global1
(25,166 posts)I Think A Peaceful Military Takeover Is Coming....
The Repugs won't call for the impeachment of Trump because he'll take the Repugs down with him. To risky.
The Dems don't have the power to impeach Trump.
Seems to me that the military is the only alternative. A peaceful ousting of Trump and his minions and a declaration of a new election to take place on a certain date. This election would restore the government in a peaceful way and the military would turn it back to the newly elected administration.
I know this sounds crazy. It would cause a lot of disruption both in the day to day running of our country and no doubt disrupt the stock market and the economy. But isn't it better knowing that there will be a light at the end of the tunnel instead of waking up everyday not knowing what Trump and company will pull?
This is just a thought - but I think with the action taken by Trump to elevate Bannon - this is just the last straw.
kimbutgar
(20,871 posts)Putting steve batshit crazy on the nsc and removing some of the miltary generals is probably causing a lot of discussion how to remove chump.
braddy
(3,585 posts)TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)him pissing everybody off. Especially the guys stationed in the MIddle East...they cannot be pleased.
braddy
(3,585 posts)TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)US Army from 1982 - 1991, enlisted people have virtually no idea of current affairs. I was well-informed because I was a news junky and have always been a news junky but most enlisted people don't have time to follow the news or keep themselves aware of what is going on in the rest of the world!
There's the internet now and many soldiers stateside and in Afghanistan, Iraq and where-ever else, may have personal I-phones. But I guaran-phucking-tee you that these young soldiers and even the higher-ranking ones are getting most of their "news" from fake news sites and Rush Limbaugh's daily talk show... I'm pretty sure they still broadcast Rush's show on Armed Forces Radio & Television around the world and these soldiers think think are listening to "facts" not "commentary" - I doubt that, like most citizens, soldiers can't tell the difference between news and commentary anymore.
If the US Military gets involved in what's going on here, don't assume that the upper-ranks of the military is Anti-Trump! And don't assume that the lower-ranks won't just follow their orders without question...
braddy
(3,585 posts)Obama both times, and for Trump this time, it isn't close.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)ones who did not. Will they protect the one they are REALLY supposed to be protecting( us ) or just the dictator?
The Blue Flower
(5,419 posts)It was the JAG corps that loudly spoke up against the Gitmo military tribunals. I was married to a 20-year USMC JAG who just put up his first facebook post stating that he has never been more ashamed of our leaders, saying that if the immigration ban isn't bigotry, then it's cowardice. For many reasons related to the current makeup of our armed forces, I disagree with you.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)I have seen here and the news ( NOT FOX AND THAT TYPE ) that a large amount of our military voted for the dictator. I do hope I am wrong because I would really like to think when it comes down to it they are on "we the people's" side. I just have this feeling dictator is going to establish something resembling martial law ( except not legal ) and I truly wonder if our military is going to do what is right and say no. I realize there are those in the military who oppose him ( I know some ) but are there enough? ) I call what I see and compare it with the history of other dictators...I am really scared.
TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)as deeply as the average yokel that voted for Trump.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)jmg257
(11,996 posts)Ms. Toad
(33,915 posts)We are a nation of laws. He won the electoral vote. There are only two lawful mechanisms to remove him from office.
His vice president and cabinet - and his cronies in Congress are the only ones with the power to do anything.
kimbutgar
(20,871 posts)Ms. Toad
(33,915 posts)AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)Unfortunatey, what he is doing right now is what he had promised. Actually, he promised a complete and total shutdown of all muslims entering the US so I guess he aleady softened his stance, lol.
I expect massive ICE raids to start any day now, but he had promised this too. And cancel DACA within days/weeks (after Sessions is confirmed).
What he did not campaign on is that he is destroying all foundations of our democracy, trying to transition from liberal democracy to autoritarian oligarchy, that he is following the new global order which will benefit ONLY Russia, etc.
I guess we may have to wait until stock market crashes due to trade wars and isolationist policies for all people to wake up. Money talk louder than words, I guess.
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)starting point..
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)Last edited Tue Jan 31, 2017, 12:27 AM - Edit history (1)
the muslim registry is being actively developed by a company in Palo Alto. All muslims i the US will be required to register or face charges. Islam will be declared (via EO) "political ideology" and therefore exempt from religious protections. Buckle up!!
shadowrider
(4,941 posts)What at first glance, I think you are.
regnaD kciN
(26,035 posts)malaise
(267,796 posts)The institutions are wide awake - see the Acting AGs letter.
He will be stopped
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)Trump and Bannon are the Visigoths, and they are busily sacking Rome. I don't take kindly to people telling me to calm down when shit like this is happening. The right to get fired up over crap like this, and say so, is one of those civil and human rights they're trying to take away.
bdamomma
(63,650 posts)do you think those who defended our freedoms overseas would do the same on their own soil?????
How many of us would give our lives to stop this evil that is consuming us and the world. Would you let this sick evil twisted man do this???
area51
(11,868 posts)the CIA could get their hands on the Trump video of his golden games, and make it public, if they wanted.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)He and Bannon are Honey Badgers - they don't care.
that video is gonna do much I am afraid. His supporters will forgive him anything personal as long as he continues to fullfill his promises. They already know he is immoral, no news here. They'll gaslight the public that the video is manipulted.
IMWITHHERR
(32 posts)The military isnt going to do anything. We can make it through this, cooler heads will prevail.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)If anything the military will help trump to overtake the governemnt and become first king of usa.