I have discovered a way to shut down the Trumpers around me

[Greywing]

It really is an amazingly simple 3 letter word: Lie

It has been working amazingly well. They spout off the "news" they been spoon-fed by Fox or some other right wing alternative fact news site and I just say "Lie" ... and walk off. It really makes them defensive and angry. I don't try to logically reason with them anymore (which is a waste of time and emotion anyway). Amazing how defensive/angry they get trying to justify Trump's actions.

It's worked so well I tried it in a news site's comment section and it worked perfectly. They kept arguing with themselves.

[elleng]

1. 'They kept arguing with themselves.'

[anneboleyn]

11. It is classic defensive behavior - like people in cults when their beliefs are challenged or

when a close friend or relative doesn't also become a "believer." It exacerbates their anxieties about their beliefs, and they often react in angry, super defensive ways.

[susanna]

42. Oh, yes they do.

I see this a lot these days. They are doubling-down for their leader's honor.

It is fascinating in a terrible way.

[bravenak]

2. Perfect!

[LovingA2andMI]

3. Using The....

"You Lie" line. Okay, we'll try that because one cannot argue or debate with stupid.

[underthematrix]

4. Good strategy

[wildeyed]

5. I re-write headlines on Twitter to include the word 'lie'

when the 'journalist' was to timid to report what actually happened. They are fairly popular posts

[VOX]

6. Whatever works! Seriously! n/t

[WVGal1963]

7. Great!

I also say "I hear he's a great golfer and I MISS my favorite cartoon - - The Celebrity Apprentice."

[Greywing]

9. LOL ... not many of them have a sense of humor anymore

Personally I think they are trying to justify in their own mind why they brought this scourge to the White House.

[susanna]

43. I agree with this completely.

This has been my own experience as well, especially the past few days. They truly believed everyone loved him as much as they did and the obvious proof that we do not is driving them crazy/crazier.

[calimary]

31. Welcome to DU, WVGal1963!

This is a pretty wild night. As I write this, the big popping news was trump firing Acting AG Sally Yates, but now he's evidently also fired the head of immigration enforcement, too!

This is unspooling in such a way as to confirm WHY you DON'T run a government like a business. And why it's UTTER FOLLY to put a businessman in at the top. A businessman is used to doing business a certain way. Especially a CEO-type who's used to swaggering around like some sultan and in his own private company CAN say "my way or the highway." I'm sure trump has fired people on a whim, MANY times before. But he was in private industry at the time. You can do that if you own the joint.

But trump doesn't OWN this. He is a public servant. That's what a President of the United States is: the highest-ranking public servant in America. The country doesn't run like a business. They're not the same thing! A business exists to do one thing: generate a profit. Period. That's NOT what a government is for. A government is for serving the public, collecting taxes, and redistributing that tax money to serve the public. Handle crises. Fund recovery, for example.

Perhaps we're now seeing how trump runs things when the whole country and the whole wide world, friend and foe alike, all aren't looking over his shoulder - which is what happens when you're President. Maybe we're now seeing, close-up, the kind of business guy he is in the private sector. And why he's been sued more than 3,500 times.

[NanceGreggs]

8. I've found the "fight fake news with fake news" strategy effective.

When Trumpettes insist that "3 to 5 million" votes were cast in the last election by "illegals", I tell them that it's true - and almost 100% of those "illegal" votes were for Trump.

When they ask for verification of that "fact", I ask for verification that 3 to 5 million votes were "illegal".

[LaydeeBug]

12. God, that's beauitful.

[susanna]

44. Oh, I like that. A lot. I will follow your lead. n/t

[babylonsister]

10. I enjoy 'prove it-provide a link'. That always works. nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

18. Be sure to say ** "credible" link ** Fake news links are too easy, but "credible" prevents them.

[Equinox Moon]

13. I like it. I am currently working on a Fox-trumpian.

This is an email that will be sent in response to an exchange we had:

Trump, the GOP and billionaires are working hard to remove our democracy and Constitution in order to install a Fascist Dictator Plutocracy government. Why would you want that? What do you have against democracy? What do you have against the Constitution?

Educate yourself on what you are supporting:

Fascism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
Dictator: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictator
Plutocracy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutocracy

Bam!

[FailureToCommunicate]

30. +1

[griloco]

14. I point out Trump's a con man and they're a mark.

Then "mark" works. When the Dow starts dropping we'll have, "How's your 401k?"

[Bernardo de La Paz]

19. The markets already dropped in response to the illegal immigration Order.

They had their worst day of 2017 and thus of Дональда Трампа regime.

[Equinox Moon]

21. What is?

Дональда Трампа

[Bernardo de La Paz]

22. Comrade Donald Trump's name as written by his handlers in the FSB (KGB) is Дональда Трампа . nt

[calimary]

33. Indeed!

And yes, today, the Dow had the worst trading day of the year so far. I'm looking at the "crawl" of current headlines running along the bottom of the screen on MSNBC as Lawrence O'Donnell is on. That headline is what just now glided across my TV.

[susanna]

45. "Grifter" also sets them off. n/t

[onlyadream]

15. I keep saying

Your grandchildren will be ashamed of you.

Or

You're on the Wong side of history.

[lastlib]

23. "How do you explain it to your *daughter*??"

has worked for me. yeah, explain to her how you supported the man who likes to "grab 'em by the p----".

[Judi Lynn]

36. That's perfect. There is no defense. n/t

[Moral Compass]

16. Worth a try

Thanks, I'm going to try this one.

A couple that have worked for me.

Can you prove that? Where did you hear this? Why do you believe this? You do realize that this has been thoroughly debunked?

I, of course, don't ask these all at once. I've found that they often don't know where they heard it, don't know why they believe it, and certainly can't prove anything.

The problem I'm having is I want to punch their fucking faces in for doing this to my country because they got talked into believing that Obama was or did ruin the country and that anything would be better than Hillary Clinton... So, I have to minimize my conversations with them.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

17. Better yet, say "It's a lie and you KNOW it" Most of them know it's a lie. . . . nt

[FailureToCommunicate]

32. How 'bout: "It's a lie... and you are smart enough to know that." (even if they aren't of course!)

[Bernardo de La Paz]

34. Even better. Good job! . . . nt

[Mountain Mule]

20. Good Tactic!

I'm going to use it on a forum filled with many Дональда Трампа supporters right now!

[calimary]

35. Welcome to DU, Mountain Mule!

Gotta make myself a copy of that inscription! It's QUITE fitting.

We have a Russian puppet now installed in OUR White House by a hostile foreign power. IE: Russia.

[Mountain Mule]

40. Thank you!

Дональда Трампа is a traitor and we shoud be fearless about calling him out for what he is. He will throw this country to the pack of hyenas formed by Exxon petroleum, assorted billionaire CEO's and Russia's Putin. He will do it deliberately and with no conscience and he will break anyone who stands in his way. We see him doing this already. We must all rise up together and fight him in every way we can.

My tag line is by Harvey Fierstein, btw. So far he hasn't objected to my use of it, and I'm sure he'd love for all of us to use it for a rallying cry.

[Akamai]

24. I like that idea. short, sweet, and clearly derailing of the BS topic & the ball is in THEIR court.

[Greywing]

25. It works! and you get your point across quickly ...

It's helped my state of mind (before I tried using logic and facts and that just doesn't work with most of these trumpsters)

[Akamai]

26. I bet that you also enjoy the fact that you leave them stewing in being unable to defend their lies.

So, they have to follow you and prove you're wrong to gain the upper hand. But -- "g'bye!" And they will be thinking about the issues for a while.

Nice tactic!

[Greywing]

27. Darn right!

[The Wizard]

28. A savy trial lawyer once told me

Everything changes once the lying starts.

[lambchopp59]

29. blunt, to the point. Nice counter to the "alternative political correctness" the douchebags are

attempting to create with calling their confabulations "alternative facts".
I do believe the one Drumph supporter who told me "Now you know what I felt like when Obama won" is probably starting to cringe in a corner somewhere. I don't know, since he got dismissed from his job for racist, sexist commentary.
Let's face it. Their "Tea Party" protests couldn't hold a candle to the real grassroots movement against this fascist regime.
And our signs are correctly spelled.

[calimary]

37. Welcome to DU, lambchopp591

Yep. I guess that's because we're not the deplorables.

Our signs are not only correctly spelled, they're witty as hell!

I saw one at the L.A. Women's March the weekend before last, that said "We're Not Ovary-acting!" that included a drawing of a woman's reproductive system.

[lambchopp59]

38. Oh, that's rich...

Thanks for the "welcome", but I'm actually "nightscanner59" repackaged since the hacking. That handle got me "typecast" into working night shifts, so shedding that ten years ago after a nighttime year's contract expired. DU was the last place for me to switch from that, after the hacking was as good a time as any.

[Chevy]

39. These memes work well for social media

Link to tweet

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[Dark n Stormy Knight]

41. Or these:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028497258