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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBill Belichick, Robert Kraft, and Tom Brady are Trump worshipers- Go Falcons
Were going to win so much, youre going to be so sick and tired of winning
-Donald Trump
Congratulations on a tremendous campaign. You have to help with an unbelievable slanted and negative media and have come out beautifully. You have proven to be the ultimate competitor fighter. Your leadership is amazing. I have always had tremendous respect for you for the toughness and perseverance you have displayed over the past year is remarkable. Hopefully tomorrows election, the results will give the opportunity to make America great again.
Best wishes for great results tomorrow,
-Bill Belichick
Botany
(70,447 posts)Stats Show the New England Patriots Became Nearly Fumble-Proof after 2006 Rule Change Proposed by Tom Brady
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)The NFL spent millions of dollars launching a pathetic witch hunt of an investigation and, even with that, did not come close to providing any proof of wrong doing.
If this was a court of law and the NFL had presented that pathetic, convoluted, scientifically-challenged case of hearsay and idiocy, the jury would have voted not guilty before the morning coffee had brewed
The entire thing was beyond stupid but then again, sheep are easily led
"Stats Show the New England Patriots Became Nearly Fumble-Proof " Led by the greatest QB and Coach...it's no surprise..but haters gonna hate....Sad
Botany
(70,447 posts)n/t
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)Sore losers gonna hate ...whine and believe nonsense. That's their problem..not mine
Botany
(70,447 posts)n/t
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)When a head coach of Belichick's stature and ability identifies a problem - turnovers - then focuses on backs who don't fumble, receivers who hold onto the ball, and constant practice and drilling for ball control - guess what? - you get those stats!
nikibatts
(2,198 posts)amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Tom Brady is the Hillary Clinton of the NFL and national fandom.
Go Pats!
1965Comet
(175 posts)tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)We haven't seen Sec Clinton whining and crying. She isn't offering rule changes that benefit her. Brady is talented but I think his success has elevated his sense of entitlement.
I don't care who wins and probably won't watch it. NFL has become so sanitized and commercial. Ick.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)I would only have a passing interest in the outcome if not for Belichick's literal (put in writing) fellatio of Donald Drumpf.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)who the hell cares what "footballers" have to say about anything other than football - except the "opposition"?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)uponit7771
(90,302 posts)amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)Brady didn't vote. He likes to golf.
He didn't cheat. Science proved it. Science lovers ignoring facts? Sad
gademocrat7
(10,644 posts)bluedigger
(17,086 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Were going to win so much, youre going to be so sick and tired of winning
-Donald Trump
Congratulations on a tremendous campaign. You have to help with an unbelievable slanted and negative media and have come out beautifully. You have proven to be the ultimate competitor fighter. Your leadership is amazing. I have always had tremendous respect for you for the toughness and perseverance you have displayed over the past year is remarkable. Hopefully tomorrows election, the results will give the opportunity to make America great again.
Best wishes for great results tomorrow,
Bill Belichick
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1965Comet
(175 posts)But it sucks that they seem to love cheetos so much...
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)has started kind of early this year.
http://l1.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/RTdtChWLcwDeFBacCIFeDw--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9MTI4MDtoPTk2MA--/
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Best wishes for great results tomorrow,
Bill Belichick
I was going to italicize the offensive parts but since it is all offensive I just emboldened the entire letter.
Motley13
(3,867 posts)and I am sick of them, they cheat!
Go Falcons!
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)My politics are what I take serious. I see nobody is deigning to defend Bill Belichick licking the nuts of a racist, misogynistic, xenophobic, and anti-semitic tyrant.
ProfessorGAC
(64,852 posts)Although i am convinced that everyone was doing that and NE is the one who got caught.
But, i still don't believe there was any cheating with the football air pressure. The gas law explains 100% of everything identified, especially if the QB preference was to have the inflation in the bottom 50% of the permitted range. Under that scenario, anything under 12.8 psig was going to be "illegal" 3 hours after sitting in conditions that were 23 kelvins lower than when they were inflated. I did the math myself.
You want to hate them for their politics, i get that. I'm not nuts about it either. But, if you're going to hate them for cheating, hate them for when it actually was cheating.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)I rooted for Clemson to win the collegiate football championship for the simple reason I saw Trump like characteristics in Nick Sa(t)an. I can not separate the political from the personal.
ProfessorGAC
(64,852 posts)RWNJ movie stars become a turnoff for me. (Eastwood an exception because he's more a libertarian and he just went over the top at the RNC convention. He's now just a cranky old man.) But guys like Duvall, and his ilk; i can no longer enjoy the movie as much when someone like him is in it.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)It is almost impossible for me to get past their politics. At least with the latter he doesn't proselytize for Drumpf.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)What they did was common practice. Competitors in any sport look for real or perceived advantages.
My son, a Chem Engineer and scientist also cites the gas laws.
The NFL said they would be consistently checking pressures of teams' footballs.
I have not seen that happen during any games, have you? Gee...I wonder why?
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Games. The Patriots chose to film from the sideline, that wasn't illegal, but was unusual. My guess is they were trying to get a better view of linemen pre-snap signals and movements, which are harder to see from the booth and/or stands.
ProfessorGAC
(64,852 posts)That sounds right
Unethical not illegal, and everyone was doing it despite haters think
BTW: I'm a Bears fan from Chicago so I'm not invested in the Pats
uponit7771
(90,302 posts)... there's no question about this
ProfessorGAC
(64,852 posts)Lack of proof other than anecdote and opinion. Opinion is not proof. You have, naturally, been paying attention to Conway.
Besides, the conditions of that day says that any football inflated to under 12.87 psig (legal) would have been under 12.5 psig at the end of the first half.
Patriot hate doesn't outweigh the laws of physics.
uponit7771
(90,302 posts).... Other teams.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/advantage-of-deflated-footballs-2015-1?client=ms-android-verizon
The well report said Brady at least knew of the deflating of the footballs
https://www.google.com/amp/ftw.usatoday.com/2015/05/deflategate-report-tom-brady/amp?client=ms-android-verizon
Johonny
(20,818 posts)librechik
(30,673 posts)First Speaker
(4,858 posts)amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Robert Kraft: Donald Trumps Policies Are Going to Be Great for America
While its up for debate whether or not the Patriots have a Trump problem, the Patriots owner has no problem whatsoever with Trump.
In an interview with the New York Times this week, Robert Kraft lavished praise on the President-Elect, whom he considers a dear friend. The two first met when Trump invited Kraft to play at his golf course in West Palm Beach, and as recently as November, the Brookline native was spotted inside Trumps eponymous Manhattan tower.
http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2017/01/19/robert-kraft-donald-trump-policies/
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Blue_true
(31,261 posts)About the plight of the poor and middle class in the last decade, he thinks they are being crushed. He and his wife (she since passed away) donated $25 million dollars in around 2010 for training of Doctors that would agree to serve underserved communities during their residencies and first years of practice, some of the money was also to be used to set up office space and medical equipment for said Doctors.
On Kraft's affinity to Trump. Kraft recently pointed out that Trump was one of only five people that kept in touch with him during the difficult year after his wife passed, one of the other people was John Kerry, a good Kraft friend who is often sitting with the Krafts in the owner's box.
On economic support for Trump. Kraft supports Trump's alleged goal to bring economic revitalization to inner cities and economic depressed parts of America, which I think is a nobel goal, although I think Trump is conning people, even Kraft. Kraft has done a lot to help revitalize southern New England around Foxborough, using his own money to set up shopping, entertainment and light industry complexes. Personally, I wish Kraft would work with people like the owner of Quicken Loans to revitalize inner cities, but beyond his large medicine donation and his activity in southern New England, he seems to not have figured out that he could work with other well meaning rich people to accomplish his social goals and not rely on a person like Trump.
Kraft contributed a large amount of money to Obama 2008. I don't know about 2012, since Massachusetts Statie Mitt Romney was running against Obama.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)Sometimes he seems to have some strange Senior Moments. Nevertheless... an admirable man.
Inane purity tests are pathetic and a sure loser for The Party.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)Community Healthcare. He also donates to programs promoting interfaith relationships.
One of the problems with some Dems is their absurd Purity tests.
I am so looking forward to Brady getting his 5th ring...Enjoy!
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Initech
(100,039 posts)So they support cheating, lying and weasling in sports and politics.
Bengus81
(6,928 posts)Croney
(4,657 posts)to be reminded of their STUPID FUCKING CONNECTIONS to the orange toad. I want it to be an alternative fact that none of this is true.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Friends is John Kerry. Kraft and his wife made a massive donation to train and equip Doctors that agree to serve poor communities. Unfortunately, a lot of us have friends who we wish were better people, but some aspect of how those people relate to us keep us friends with them.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)long before Trump came into the picture
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Roger giving Brady the trophy is hilarious. It's just a game. Plus it's historical for Brady to win.
ProfessorGAC
(64,852 posts)The discomfort that will cause by that martinet that runs the NFL is delightful.
Kingofalldems
(38,422 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Actually very decent people. Read up on the family's long charitable work and financial support before panning them. I am baffled as to why Kraft associates with Trump, but at the same time, I don't know all the parameters that drives that association.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Belichick said. "Our friendship goes back many years."
He continued: "I think anybody that has spent more than five minutes with me knows I'm not a political person. My comments are not politically motivated -- the friendship and loyalty to Donald. A couple of weeks ago, we had Secretary of State [John] Kerry in our locker room [after a win over the Pittsburgh Steelers]. He's another friend of mine. I can't imagine two people with more different political views than those two. But to me, friendship and loyalty is just about that. It's not about political or religious views.
"I write hundreds of letters and notes every month," Belichick said. "It doesn't mean I agree with every single thing that every person thinks about politics or religion or other subjects. But I have multiple friendships that are important to me, and that's what that was about. So it's not about politics. It's about football. We have a huge game this week against a great football team, a great organization, and that's where it all is going forward. On to Seattle."
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18006423/new-england-patriots-bill-belichick-says-letter-donald-trump-not-political
FreeStateDemocrat
(2,654 posts)amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)Go Pats !
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)-Bill Belichick
-Bill Belichick
True Dough
(17,255 posts)I expect the Pats to put together a winning game plan on Sunday. I wish they wouldn't but they have more experience under the spotlight and usually come through in the clutch.
That said, I'd love to see them flop. A 38-10 Atlanta victory or something like that would be fantastic. Even if the Falcons pulled it off in the dying seconds, also awesome. But I think that's just a dream.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)And exploit them. Expect them to do things to Atlanta on Sunday that has not been done all season. Remember that famous interception to win Super Bowl 49? The Patriots figured out that Seattle often relied on a slant pass to score from near the goal line, the team practiced often to defend that particular play leading up to Super Bowl 49.
True Dough
(17,255 posts)Julio Jones will be rendered largely ineffective via double coverage for most of the game, I imagine. And Brady is the master of varying his weapons from one game to the next. Edelman could have a huge day. Hogan could have a huge day. Dion Lewis, Martellus Bennett (not as big a day as Gronk would have though), LeGarrette Blount could all explode. Like you said, it's just a matter of where Atlanta is weakest, and then New England will be all over that.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)NO! the Brazilian model told an Instagram user who asked if it were true that she and Brady were backing the brash billionaire.
Trump told supporters at a rally in Manchester, New Hampshire, on Monday that the New England Patriots star quarterback and his head coach, Bill Belichick, had endorsed his White House bid.
The real estate mogul doubled down on that claim Tuesday morning in a phone interview with Fox & Friends, telling the co-hosts that Brady called him personally and Belichick wrote him a letter.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/gisele-bundchen-tom-brady-no-trump-230930
FreeStateDemocrat
(2,654 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)On ending hunger. He built a Field Hockey stadium for kids from an African country.
Blue_Adept
(6,393 posts)Looking forward to another win here and the tears of so many others as they make more history.
Go pats!
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Congratulations on a tremendous campaign. You have to help with an unbelievable slanted and negative media and have come out beautifully. You have proven to be the ultimate competitor fighter. Your leadership is amazing. I have always had tremendous respect for you for the toughness and perseverance you have displayed over the past year is remarkable. Hopefully tomorrows election, the results will give the opportunity to make America great again.
Best wishes for great results tomorrow,
-Bill Belichick
Blue_Adept
(6,393 posts)And that makes me smile!
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)I will still miss Gronk. He is so much fun to watch
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)From injury.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)The last game was pretty damn good. If they play like they did against the Steelers. It is a lock
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)care about their politics and don't have a dog in this fight, but I'm still pulling for Atlanta. They've never won a SB before while NE has 4. I want to see different teams gaining success instead of the same few.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)I want Tom to get his 5th ring and shove it up Goodell's ass.
beaglelover
(3,460 posts)Just because someone does not share my politics doesn't mean I need to erase them from my life. If it did, I'd have no immediate family members.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)Go Pats!!!
Neither Kraft, Belichik nor Brady stumped for or expressly endorsed Trump, and no one here knows what any of them did in the voting booth. Who knows what they say in the privacy of their own homes around the dinner table?
Brady played golf with Trump well before Trump became a candidate, and Melania aspired to be a supermodel with Giselle when Melania was still a gold-digger, if not escort, unlawfully residing in the US while looking for a sugar daddy. I'm really not concerned that Kraft, Belichik or Brady may have wished Trump well after Trump won the election.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)Go Pats!!!
oasis
(49,328 posts)it'll be icing on the cake.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Shut down, that is the Patriots way.
oasis
(49,328 posts)have a different matchup for the Super Bowl. But then, you know that.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)oasis
(49,328 posts)muntrv
(14,505 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)In the Atlanta area.
Ilsa
(61,690 posts)Before or after death. Big philanthropist.
muntrv
(14,505 posts)MFM008
(19,803 posts)to allow all these greedy maggot bastards to flourish and prosper?
Why is he rewarding the maggot and his supporters and not the poor and needy??????
I dint fuking get it.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)charitable efforts that they have done for years. They aren't examples of greedy rich people. I really don't know why they are loyal to Trump, but I also don't understand why the Atlanta owner, who also is a big philanthropist supports Trump.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)Tom Terrific must be his greatest specimen
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)When my family discusses the rank stupidity of Goodell and the clueless haters, it is on an entirely higher plane
Go Pats!!!
MFM008
(19,803 posts)but some of us still wonder.
liquid diamond
(1,917 posts)Kraft family, fuck the whole fandom.
What did you expect from rich white males?
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)For healthcare for underserved people and their efforts to fight and end hunger. Belichick also is a major philanthropist. It is easy to hate decent people when one imposes an absolute purity test.
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I expect Jones and Sanu to largely get shutdown and Falcon running backs to get largely stymied by the Patriots massive defensive line and linebackers. Ryan will largely be left with trying to beat the Patriots by throwing to receivers that are not used to being key cogs.
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)will be seen in their first few drives. The NE secondary will step up and swarm their WRs-- It's possible for them to compete if Jones makes catches early on. But don't be lulled by the sport's writers from the ATL into thinking this will be a close game. New England's offense is one of their best in years. Also, the Goodell chip on Brady's shoulder is going to make this a blowout.
NE - 38
ATL- 13
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)So is the endless discussion of it. But I understand this stuff is fun for many people, so please continue.
Ligyron
(7,616 posts)Bread and Circus (minus the bread nowadays).
Don't worry about the flaming ship we're all on, everbody concentrate on your fantasy football picks while your wifey watches "Dancing with the Stars".
The minority players, hell, any player with a conscience, should flat refuse to play in protest of the stolen election and ongoing destruction of our country. That would get attention.
In fact, Ga Ga should openly insult Trump during halftime. Maybe moon the cameras to enrage the Christo-facists before calling for a General Strike starting next week.
ALL POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!
But, of course, I'll watch just like everybody else. Gotta get your mind off shit once in awhile.
Now where's the weed...
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)They cheat!
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Spygate was a matter of the Patriots filming from a location where teams normally did not film from, all teams filmed their opponent, usually from the booth or stands, the Patriots had a person on the sideline, which the NFL subsequently deemed unusual, but not illegal.
If you think Brady had footballs deflated, then you don't understand a reality of nature called the Ideal Gas Law. The law says that any gas exposed to it's environment will take on a Pressure and Volume that is dictated by the environment. In regards to the Patriots-Colts game, balls exposed to the wet, cold weather that night shrunk to a lower Pressure and Volume. The NFL read all Patriots balls, but only two of the Colts balls (one of which had low pressure and the second which was just in spec). Some of the Patriots balls were just in spec and some had low pressure - each team had something like 12 game balls and 4 or 5 kicking balls.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)One that I believe they did cheat. Two because I think it is time to see them beaten. I am tired of Bill and tom.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)uponit7771
(90,302 posts)uponit7771
(90,302 posts)The Wells Report relied on scientific analysis performed by Exponent and supported by Dr. Daniel Marlow, a professor of Physics at Princeton University. This analysis concluded that within the range of game conditions and circumstances studied, no set of environmental or physical factors could account for the loss of air pressure exhibited by the Patriots game balls. The scientific study supported the report's conclusion that the loss of air pressure may be accounted for by human intervention.[12]:13031
Ilsa
(61,690 posts)MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)Tommies tiny hands, so they have that in common.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Always did and always will.
With that said. the Patriots are cheaters, between the deflated balls and spygate, they scumbags.
They fit perfectly with Donnie.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)Tom is officially the best QB. So happy losers and haters gotta nosh the shit.. YeeHa
And to think I defended you at Di. Never again.
uponit7771
(90,302 posts)... of the deflated balls (which no one in their right mind believes he didn't know about).
I subtract 2 of his 5 SB wins because of the deflated balls... fuck that
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)Fuck that indeed....