My ex-military RW relatives response to all of this...

[SHRED]

..."We suffered through 8 years of Obama. Your turn".


I will almost relish the day tRump cuts veteran retirement disability, and health care benefits.
I real don't wish this but damnit they are so arrogant.

They actually think this is equal somehow.

[ret5hd]

1. I would ask them to describe their suffering.

[dhol82]

3. Exactly!

Whenever I ask that question there is no response.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

18. My RW relatives are entirely convinced (brainwashed) that during Obama's

presidency we were living under a dictator.

To hear them babble on you'd think there were tanks in the streets of their neighborhood with Obama's picture on them. All their freedoms have been taken away!

There is, of course, no evidence of anything like this, but they are living in a dystopian nightmare created by the RW propaganda machine to divert their attention from the dystopian reality the Republicans are trying to legislate at every turn.

Propaganda works. And it is much easier to fool people that to convince them they've been fooled.

[yardwork]

27. It's so frustrating. Mass hypnosis.

[madaboutharry]

2. How did they suffer?

[3catwoman3]

14. Their white supremacist...

...pride was hurt. Nothing else.

[The Wielding Truth]

30. Yea. Ask them how they suffered. Smoke and mirrors. There was no there there.

[cynatnite]

4. They want to privatize the VA.

Trump and VA privatization

Add that Medicare, Social Security and more.

[sdfernando]

5. There was a great post not too long ago about how to respond to this very statement

Not sure who posted it be it was awesome!

[demmiblue]

7. Here it is:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028526502

blm

[sdfernando]

9. Yep thats it! Thanks for finding it! bookmarking for later. /NT

[SHRED]

10. Thanks

[BlancheSplanchnik]

31. Yes, thank you!!!! First thing I thought of too but couldn't remember where I saw it.

Best response to rw's and that brainless fox-lie burnt into their smooth brains.

[LisaM]

6. What do they mean, suffered?

What, exactly, did he do that was so terrible? I'm just asking this rhetorically, not of you, because I've heard this a number of times.

Under the Bush menace, there were real tangible things to complain about, namely, a stolen election, bad SCOTUS picks (really bad, as it turns out), 9/11, two invasions, the Great Recession, and the near-loss of a great American city during Hurricane Katrina.

Other than some people who don't want to pay into the healthcare system, I don't get where this 'suffering' comes from. Not to mention, Obama won the popular vote very handily, twice, while Trump lost it handily.


ARRRRRGGGHHH.

[Canoe52]

17. My 84 yo mother summed it up for me...

"He's a Muslim trying to take down our country"

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. What "suffering" might that be? Ask them.

Did they lose their jobs? Did their stocks lose value? Were their guns taken away? Did they have to drink dirtier water or breathe dirtier air? Were they prevented from traveling? Were they prevented from going to the church of their choice? Were they sent to jail or otherwise punished for criticizing the president?

I'd really like to know how they suffered.

[wcmagumba]

11. Could it be...

suffering while being white racists?

[lpbk2713]

12. What they suffered through ...

was eight year of Faux, Limbaugh, Coulter et al flogging same old dead horse.

I'd get tired of having to listen to those idiots too.

[delisen]

13. and just what did they suffer? n/t

[rumdude]

15. Here's the rub

They want us to shut up. Did they shut up after O's win in 2008? Joe Wilson screamed out "you lie" during O's first SOTU speech. Mitch Turtle had already resolved to try to make O a one-termer before the 2010 elections. And let's go back to look at the magnitude of O's win in 2008 ( remember the Dems increased their majorities in Congess in that election). Go - look it up. O swamped Trump by every metric in both 08 and 12. More pop vote, more EC. So, I would tell your relatives to shut their fucking pie holes. Seriously, tell them to pound grass.

[JaneQPublic]

16. And they formed the Tea Party movement as soon as Obama took office...

...so when right-wingers like them suggest we're supposed to "suffer" in silence instead of protest, I remind them they never did for Obama --- even when he was pulling the country out of the GOP Great Recession -- and we sure as hell aren't going to now for Cheeto Twitler.

[Augiedog]

19. I suggest you send them this. It was posted on DU before but is worth repeating

[link:http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028526502|

[Raster]

20. They didn't suffer shit, except for their racist feelings were hurt...

...that their Commander-in-Chief was a Black man.

Yeah, I've heard that shit also. Put up or shut up. Please, in detail, describe your suffering. No anecdotal "heard it on Rush" bullshit. Your suffering, in detail.

[logosoco]

21. So they are immune to polluted air and water.

How nice for them!


Sorry you are related to folks like this!

[eleny]

22. Too often right wingers I've met act like professional victims

Then when they get into power they're tyrants.
I never want anyone to "suffer". But they seem to revel in inflicting discomfort.

Trump appears to be doing things "to" the population instead of doing "for" us as our main civil servant. He's drunk with power.

[SHRED]

25. So true

[TrekLuver]

23. No I have to wish it because that is the only thing that will get through...I could understand if

they really did suffer the last 8 years...but what the hell is wrong with these people....WHAT???

[404usernamenotfound]

24. Sorry but...

Trump seems to be a pro-military guy. Look for him to improve veteran's health care and retirement benefits, and increase military spending so they all get the newest doohickys and whizbangs they can get off on. So then he can send them into battle with the latest and greatest equipment. And offer his condolences to their families when they come home in a box...

[Afromania]

26. Pro Millitary

doesn't mean pro veteran. They are all "Pro Military" and will be right up until Johnny Johnny's ass gets drafted to go die in some war. Once they come back they'll give them a flag and a how do ya do and that's it; same as always.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

35. Remember bush the dumber, so pro-troops, but wouldn't budget for protective gear,

VA care, salaries.....

Yeah, "pro-military" is another repuke propaganda point with no money backing the jingoistic bullshit.


Made in China

[FiveGoodMen]

28. Right wingers are bullies -- all of them

Their idea of suffering is: Not being allowed to pick on others for no reason.

We may not be able to eliminate them from society but ...

We should ALL (that is ALL) be able to agree that their attitude is unacceptable and deserves no place is public discourse.

The fact that we can't do that is simply down to ... about half of us just suck.

[pnwmom]

29. What do they think they suffered? Being pulled out of the worst recession

since the Great Depression?

An economy that went from shedding 800K jobs a month to an unemployment rate of 4.7%?

No new wars? Getting out of Iraq?

Did you happen to ask them what suffering Obama caused them?

[keithbvadu2]

32. Ask why these 'ex-military RW relatives' ridicule POWs simply because the POWs were captured.

[lancelyons]

33. It will come back to bite them one day.

Irregardless we have 4 more years of this. Just resist and try to educate them.

On that I know it's almost impossible. My father and a big chunk of my family are rural community trumpsters. They spread misinformation all the time. Trump could take a dump in them and they would be happy. It's truly an us vs them mentality

[The Sand Reckoner]

34. One can only imagine

that living through 8 years of a non-Aryan president constituted their suffering.

But everyone who didn't vote for Hillary Clinton needs to suffer a whole lot over the next 4 years. They need to suffer every possible consequence of having the president they wanted. I only wish that a lot of those on the right side weren't going to suffer, too.