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McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 08:15 PM Jan 2017

What Will Happen When Trump Tries to Declare Martial Law?

He has defied the Judicial Branch. He has fired the acting Attorney General---which is actually worse than Nixon's infamous Saturday Night Massacre (that was just a Special Prosecutor, not the Prosecutor for the whole country). He is rewriting legislation, which means he is trampling all over the legislative branch--although the Republican wimps in Congress are pretending not to notice (must be some pretty bad blackmail material that Putin has on them). He is threatening to stifle the press and impose a state religion. And his popularity is in the toilet, all in a brief 9 days. One in 100 American marched against him a week ago. At the rate he is going, soon one in two Americans will have protested him---the half that do not picket being too young or too old or too sick to take to the streets.

Where does this all end? Trump has backed himself into a corner and has only one play left. He can declare martial law. What will the military do when this happens? I am predicting that all those generals whose asses he has been kissing (see link)

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/trump-generals-cabinet-232396


will give him a big "Hell, no!"

Note that I did not write "if". That is because he is obviously planning a military coup. Why else would he be making so cozy with the Pentagon while taking a big Trump Dump all over everyone else?

I suspect that Putin told him "Get the military in your pocket, then you can do anything you want." Putin does not know the U.S. and he does not know the U.S. military. We swear to defend the Constitution, not the person who happens to be acting as President.



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What Will Happen When Trump Tries to Declare Martial Law? (Original Post) McCamy Taylor Jan 2017 OP
The markets will drop by 5,000 points and the elites will revolt. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #1
More than 5000 drop...try 10000... Pachamama Jan 2017 #2
They will close it way before that. There are multiple circuit breakers. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #5
nixon fired *two* attorneys general he did not directly fire the special prosecutor. unblock Jan 2017 #3
State Dept employees are leaving en masse. lpbk2713 Jan 2017 #4
Nixon did fire the AG tazkcmo Jan 2017 #6
Probably civil war Loge23 Jan 2017 #7
Clue to any Natiional Guard Wellstone ruled Jan 2017 #8
Most blue cities and counties have progressive police chiefs and sheriffs. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #9
Going to be interesting as we head towards Summer. Wellstone ruled Jan 2017 #14
Can he do that? Turbineguy Jan 2017 #10
Lincoln declared martial law during the Civil War. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #13
His brownshirts will think that a good idea. toddwv Jan 2017 #11
If he DARED institute martial law ...like where...everywhere?? THE COUNTRY WILL ERUPT. TrekLuver Jan 2017 #12
It would be the beginning of the end or the end of the beginning. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #15
You have more faith in the Generals than I do. woodsprite Jan 2017 #16
We call OUR general, General Strike. elehhhhna Jan 2017 #17
Trump will propose some "tremedously awful" policies, but he won't declare Martial Law. I see no Hoyt Jan 2017 #18
Wait til he takes away their guns JDC Jan 2017 #19

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
1. The markets will drop by 5,000 points and the elites will revolt.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 08:17 PM
Jan 2017

Americans will disinvest, foreign investors will flee, and the dollar will be no longer be a safe currency, and will be worth less than the Botswana pula.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
5. They will close it way before that. There are multiple circuit breakers.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 08:21 PM
Jan 2017

Do you remember what George Bush told Americans to do after 9-11?

unblock

(52,200 posts)
3. nixon fired *two* attorneys general he did not directly fire the special prosecutor.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 08:20 PM
Jan 2017

he didn't have the authority to fire the special prosecutor, only the attorney general could to that.

so tricky dick kept firing attorneys general until he found one willing to fire the special prosecutor.

so it was abuse of power *and* part of the ongoing cover-up & effort to disrupt the investigation.


as an isolated act, imho nixon's was far worse.

donnie's is worse only because it's part of a larger pattern to exert unprecedented authoritarian powers, in this case, through intimidation of subordinates and demanding loyalty over duty.

lpbk2713

(42,753 posts)
4. State Dept employees are leaving en masse.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 08:21 PM
Jan 2017



Trump is a walking disaster. The Guard should be called out on him.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
6. Nixon did fire the AG
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 08:22 PM
Jan 2017

Because he wouldn't fire the special prosecutor, then the next one and then Bjork was named AG and HE fired the special prosecutor.

On edit: Technically, the resigned rather than follow his orders.

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
7. Probably civil war
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 08:30 PM
Jan 2017

The #IPOTUS's supporters will follow him to the grave, and we should help them along with that effort.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
8. Clue to any Natiional Guard
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 08:46 PM
Jan 2017

being called up will come from all kinds of sources. This will happen in minutes of Dumb Donnie going their. And the focus will be in some Blue State City that has a Oath Keeper Police Chief or County Sheriff.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
9. Most blue cities and counties have progressive police chiefs and sheriffs.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 08:50 PM
Jan 2017

You might have tension between the Guard and the local police. Not only that, but the Guard, is made up of soldiers from the state they are from.

Civil War.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
14. Going to be interesting as we head towards Summer.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 08:56 PM
Jan 2017

Talk about people in powerful positions thinking they live in a episode of 24,what a clueless uncaring group of people.

Turbineguy

(37,320 posts)
10. Can he do that?
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 08:51 PM
Jan 2017

I mean he thinks he can and he has little knowledge or respect for the law, but can he do that?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
13. Lincoln declared martial law during the Civil War.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 08:55 PM
Jan 2017

It would up to congress and SCOTUS to check Trump if he tried. It's a murky area of law.

woodsprite

(11,911 posts)
16. You have more faith in the Generals than I do.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 08:57 PM
Jan 2017

I figure he will get rid of the ones that would have given him a "Hell, no" and replaced them with neo-Nazi types, like Bannon.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
18. Trump will propose some "tremedously awful" policies, but he won't declare Martial Law. I see no
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 09:22 PM
Jan 2017

I see no reason to sound like white wing GOPers during Obama's term.

Martial Law would plunge the world into depression. Unless you are currently living on a dirt farm with no running water, electricity, no milk cow or crops, etc., everyone would be worse off. Even "if" he did, I have faith it wouldn't be carried out.

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