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Fri Feb 3, 2017, 10:16 PM

Presidents don't do war planning, that's what the military staff is for...

If you have a President who picks targets on a map, and decides when to attack those targets, without any inclination of a mission objective, that President is incompetent and presents a danger to both the troops in the field and the overall mission.

The dedicated and delegated staff's job is to present the Commander-In-Chief with information and options. Commanders are dependent on those who work below them. They make decisions and issue orders with the coordination of and through the senior staff.

If commanders are doing the jobs of their staffs, then nothing will go right.

Presidents need to understand what the concept of Command and Control is. They need to ensure that their staff and field commanders handle coordination, reconnaissance and contingency planning and implementation of the operation as planned. They need to let the professionals to their damn jobs.

Trump, doesn't even understand what the lowest ranking NCO knows about military operations. He's never spent one day in the Military. Gawd knows where he thinks he got his information about the Military from. After all, he tells everyone that he knows more than the generals.

That's insane.

Trump is clearly incompetent as Commander-in-Chief. He's incompetent as Chief Diplomat... He's incompetent as everything. This is why he's getting people unnecessarily killed.

And it won't be the only time either.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Fri Feb 3, 2017, 10:18 PM

1. Did he interfere in the plans for the Yemen op?

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Response to jmg257 (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 3, 2017, 10:20 PM

2. Apparently he green lit the OP and never did any of the homework and coordination in the planning

He just like ordered it and left everybody who should have been in the loop out of it.

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 3, 2017, 10:23 PM

3. That makes little sense...Chairman of the Joint Shiefs of Staff was there. Didn't he get involved?

Sec of Defense? National Security Adviser - a Lt General and former director of Defense Intelligence?

Who the hell in J-SOC is planning that stuff for months just for it to get f'd up, due to 'lack of intelligence'?

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Response to jmg257 (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 3, 2017, 10:44 PM

7. I don't think that he's operating under normal parameters

And no one is bothering to correct him either.

If I were back in the Pentagon, I'd have a better picture of this. But I'm quite sure that the staff aren't happy campers at all.

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 3, 2017, 10:48 PM

8. Yep - something has to be going on. Cheers!

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Fri Feb 3, 2017, 10:24 PM

4. Hitler did this a lot, and we all know how his plans turned out!

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Fri Feb 3, 2017, 10:38 PM

5. Not to worry.

Remember that "Mad Dog" Mattis is the voice of reason. He will control tRump. At least that's what we were led to believe by those Dems who voted to confirm. Oops.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Fri Feb 3, 2017, 10:39 PM

6. trump doesn't think he is a President...

He thinks he is a dictator.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Fri Feb 3, 2017, 10:49 PM

9. I was curious: Ultimately, can't the commander on the ground call off a mission...

... when it becomes compromised, regardless of civilian "orders" to proceed?

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Response to Beartracks (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 3, 2017, 10:57 PM

10. That all depends on the OPLAN

I have no idea what they were using for this mission.

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