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MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 10:16 PM Feb 2017

Presidents don't do war planning, that's what the military staff is for...

If you have a President who picks targets on a map, and decides when to attack those targets, without any inclination of a mission objective, that President is incompetent and presents a danger to both the troops in the field and the overall mission.

The dedicated and delegated staff's job is to present the Commander-In-Chief with information and options. Commanders are dependent on those who work below them. They make decisions and issue orders with the coordination of and through the senior staff.

If commanders are doing the jobs of their staffs, then nothing will go right.

Presidents need to understand what the concept of Command and Control is. They need to ensure that their staff and field commanders handle coordination, reconnaissance and contingency planning and implementation of the operation as planned. They need to let the professionals to their damn jobs.

Trump, doesn't even understand what the lowest ranking NCO knows about military operations. He's never spent one day in the Military. Gawd knows where he thinks he got his information about the Military from. After all, he tells everyone that he knows more than the generals.

That's insane.

Trump is clearly incompetent as Commander-in-Chief. He's incompetent as Chief Diplomat... He's incompetent as everything. This is why he's getting people unnecessarily killed.

And it won't be the only time either.

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MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
2. Apparently he green lit the OP and never did any of the homework and coordination in the planning
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 10:20 PM
Feb 2017

He just like ordered it and left everybody who should have been in the loop out of it.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
3. That makes little sense...Chairman of the Joint Shiefs of Staff was there. Didn't he get involved?
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 10:23 PM
Feb 2017

Sec of Defense? National Security Adviser - a Lt General and former director of Defense Intelligence?

Who the hell in J-SOC is planning that stuff for months just for it to get f'd up, due to 'lack of intelligence'?

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
7. I don't think that he's operating under normal parameters
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 10:44 PM
Feb 2017

And no one is bothering to correct him either.

If I were back in the Pentagon, I'd have a better picture of this. But I'm quite sure that the staff aren't happy campers at all.

old guy

(3,283 posts)
5. Not to worry.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 10:38 PM
Feb 2017

Remember that "Mad Dog" Mattis is the voice of reason. He will control tRump. At least that's what we were led to believe by those Dems who voted to confirm. Oops.

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
9. I was curious: Ultimately, can't the commander on the ground call off a mission...
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 10:49 PM
Feb 2017

... when it becomes compromised, regardless of civilian "orders" to proceed?

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