France is considering to propose to US scientists and academics to emigrate to France

[TheHak]

Macron, one of the strongest progressist in Europe has today in his latest speech announced the following:

I want tonight to make an appeal to all researchers, to all academics who, in the United States, are fighting against obscurantism. I am calling all those who today focus on innovation, on climate change on academic excellence in the United States to hear us and listen to us. You will have very shortly a new land that will welcome you, that land is France.

Macron is now leading the French polls.

[TheBlackAdder]

1. Let the brain drain begin, with them future patents.

[dalton99a]

2. Great food, minimum 5 weeks vacation a year, maximum 35-hour work week, free childcare, and

probably the best health care system in the world. He's onto something here.

[leftstreet]

3. Well...France isn't proposing it, candidate Macron is

French presidential candidate Emmanuel Macron on Saturday called on U.S. scientists, academics and entrepreneurs at odds with Donald Trump's administration to move to France.

The former economy minister, one of the frontrunners in the upcoming presidential election, urged U.S.-based scientists working on climate change, renewable energy or health issues who were wary of the new political situation to seek refuge across the Atlantic.

"I want all those who today embody innovation and excellence in the United States to hear what we say: from now on, from next May, you will have a new homeland, France," he said.


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-election-macron-idUSKBN15J0RQ

[roamer65]

4. This is going to make the EU get their shit together.

In 10 years there will be political, fiscal and MILITARY union.

It will truly be the United States of Europe.

[3_Limes]

5. So trump IS a uniter! n/t

[starshine00]

6. i wish I hadn't dropped out of college

I would love to live in france

[SticksnStones]

7. Working to make this country weaker is decidedly NOT how we overcome this presidency

No thanks Macron.

[TheHak]

8. Still better to be employed in France than unemployed in the US

thinking mostly of climate change scientists here...

[SticksnStones]

14. Still I'd be saddened to see an exodus of talent giving up the fight here

I certainly understand the need to meet one's own self interests - like a steady paycheck...

But if the talent leaves what chance do we have to fix the problem? The U.S. - by size alone - must be an active part of the climate change solution.

[TheHak]

15. yes agree 100%

I think its mostly theoretical at this point...anyway

[angrychair]

18. I humbly disagree

We can not afford to let the scientific progress on climate change and other research go idle or let these scientists or engineers become unemployed.
Even if it means going somewhere else, like France, where they will be appreciated and can continue their critical research to save our planet.

[TomCADem]

21. NY Times - When Subpoenas Threaten Climate Science

I applaud the French for offering shelter to scientists being persecuted in the U.S. I think that Americans just don't realize just how far we have slid down the slippery slope toward fascism.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/19/opinion/when-subpoenas-threaten-climate-science.html

Last week, my organization — the Union of Concerned Scientists — received a subpoena signed by Lamar S. Smith of Texas, the Republican chairman of the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology. The subpoena orders me to hand over correspondence between my staff members and state attorneys general, and between my staff members and environmental organizations and funders. This demand impinges on our group’s constitutional rights, and it would set a terrible precedent affecting many other advocacy groups were we to comply with it.

The subpoena concerns our efforts to inform state attorneys general of our research into Exxon Mobil. Our research details, among other things, how much Exxon Mobil knew about the dangers posed to the planet from carbon emissions from its products at the same time it was spending millions to misinform the public about the science of climate change.

Mr. Smith makes no claim that our organization violated any law or regulation; he simply demands to see our correspondence. This is a deeply troubling request. It is, in effect, a bullying tactic that threatens the work that advocacy groups like mine do under the protection of the First Amendment when we “petition the government for a redress of grievances.” Are we to expect a subpoena every time we have a conversation with a public official if some committee chairman dislikes or disagrees with us?

Mr. Smith’s demand also interferes with continuing law enforcement proceedings by New York and Massachusetts state attorneys general who — acting under their own state laws — have commenced investigations into Exxon Mobil’s potentially fraudulent actions. (Mr. Smith has sent similar subpoenas to the other environmental organizations and funders as well as the offices of the attorneys general of New York and Massachusetts.)

[SticksnStones]

22. makes my blood run cold. Thanks for the info, TCAD

[Horse with no Name]

9. One of my best friends is a research scientist

and to say that the scientific community is alarmed would be an understatement. I actually asked her if this was something that we would see. She felt that we wouldn't see it at first--they would try to fight. But, ultimately, there would be an emigration to other countries.

[Vogon_Glory]

10. If he's clever, he'd appeal to

If he's clever, he'd make a particular appeal to scientists, engineers, and academics born in the former Lousiana Purchase to move to France, as well as perhaps to Cajuns as well. Most of them are red states and having Americans with French surnames pack up and leave would embarrass Donnie and Club Pachyderm.

[mopinko]

11. is it legal to donate to his campaign?

let's face it, this is a worldwide crisis. we must do what we can for others fighting the same menace, eh?

anybody know french rules?

[TheHak]

12. Yes it is legal but limited

to 7500€ per person.

No entity can give but foreigners can give. I myself have given (unfortunately you need to navigate its in French haha)

https://en-marche.fr/je-donne/

[mopinko]

23. hahaha. this happens tomorrow. my lawyer/bff speaks fluent french.

gonna go by his house tomorrow. will pull out the credit card. woohoo.

[TheHak]

25. and so you know

the campaigns in France are restricted by law not spend more than 10mio$ per round so a total of 20mio$.

The Macron campaign has raised 6mio$ so far.

Incredible when comparing to the 1.2 bn$ raised by the Clinton campaign.

So your donation will actually be meaningful too

Oh and you may want to call your credit card company before..They blocked my initial payment as I dont typically use my card to pay in euros from a French marchant

[TheHak]

13. also tried to dm you but it Im too new here

but 100% agree its a worldwide crisis. If Europe holds together..we are so much better than off

[JDC]

16. Who needs our best and brightest anyhow...,

This is a bizarro world now.

[FigTree]

17. I suggested this a few days ago and I had put the timeframe

around 18 months, if the current archaic course is maintained. It doesn’t have to be France. I can be Greece, Iceland, Spain, any country. The stick are still up to determine who is going to be the next Vienna, the next XVIth century’s Nederland. It will not be Russia or China or, now, probably, the US either.

[McCamy Taylor]

19. I speak French, I love Paris and I'll bet they can use another family physician.

Sign me up!

[McKim]

20. I Would Have Jumped at the Chance

What an opportunity! I am the wife of a retired scientist. We lived there while he worked for CNRS in the 1980's, what a great country! We are just too old to start over now, but wow, if I were young!

[Drahthaardogs]

24. I am there, let's do it.

Sorry to leave you all behind, but Paris beckons

[WVGal1963]

26. TheHak

History is TRULY repeating itself.....DU family. This is so frightening. We MUST protect and cherish our scientists, our sociologists, our anthropologists, our academicians, our physicians......and the list goes on and on. Check out the history of The New School for Social Research. Stand and fight for free and independent thinkers.

[yuiyoshida]

27. Trump and the GOP would glad get rid of our scientists so they can build more

Noah's Ark exhibits around the country!