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Kaleva

(36,858 posts)
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 07:12 PM Feb 2017

Trump, in his own mind, is not lying and is telling the truth.

And his supporters agree with him.

Humans are creatures that are capable of rationalizing their beliefs and actions but we are not rational beings.

I'm not condoning Trump or his supporters but am pointing out that people of average intelligence or higher are quite capable of filling their head with utter bullshit that supports their world view and believing, without question, every smelly ounce of it.

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Trump, in his own mind, is not lying and is telling the truth. (Original Post) Kaleva Feb 2017 OP
And THAT is what makes him fucking nuts world wide wally Feb 2017 #1
Exactly my response ailsagirl Feb 2017 #4
Bingo. The real WTF situation. NRaleighLiberal Feb 2017 #2
That is exactly it, in his world he is never wrong nor opposed, its classic tyrant behavior. sunonmars Feb 2017 #3
Love this.... sunonmars Feb 2017 #5
Classic Narcisstic Sociopathic behavior - but that is just the tip of his psychosis.... Pachamama Feb 2017 #6
Yep n/t leftstreet Feb 2017 #7
Oh malarky. Maru Kitteh Feb 2017 #8
He's not devolving. He's getting stronger leftstreet Feb 2017 #10
Disagree strongly. Maru Kitteh Feb 2017 #14
I was thinking "bullshit".. he knows he's a gd liar. he knows he Cha Feb 2017 #12
I would tend to agree with you. smirkymonkey Feb 2017 #18
And, maybe now.. Finally the Lying isn't going to work on Cha Feb 2017 #19
I have a feeling it's on it's way! smirkymonkey Feb 2017 #25
I don't think we are by far the only ones who Cha Feb 2017 #26
Check out his lis when called out today, the electoral college numbers GusBob Feb 2017 #9
Yes, he's absolutely convinced that what his right-wing donors marybourg Feb 2017 #11
Reading the posts in Freeperville is like visiting another world. Kaleva Feb 2017 #13
He lies when he doesn't have to. He lies when he breathes. dalton99a Feb 2017 #15
Yeah...he's exaggerating profusely. kentuck Feb 2017 #16
You are exactly right. This piece from John Oliver breaks it down beautifully: Lucinda Feb 2017 #17
John Oliver nails it. Kaleva Feb 2017 #21
Yep. I've been saying the same things for a while now. He laid it all out much better! Lucinda Feb 2017 #22
I've added this OP to my journal just so I can easily find the video again Kaleva Feb 2017 #23
I agree. Because in his own mind he is the source of all truth. n/t pnwmom Feb 2017 #20
that's what happens when you are a delusional narcissistic megalomaniac Takket Feb 2017 #24
may they be liberated lunasun Feb 2017 #27

Pachamama

(16,902 posts)
6. Classic Narcisstic Sociopathic behavior - but that is just the tip of his psychosis....
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 07:26 PM
Feb 2017

Very dark indeed....

Maru Kitteh

(28,420 posts)
8. Oh malarky.
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 07:29 PM
Feb 2017

On the greater majority of things, he knows full well he is just making shit up, it's just that as a dictatorial-style CEO, he is totally unaccustomed to being called on it.

He knows when he is lying, he's just surrounded himself with brown-nosing suck-ups for so long, he comes totally UNHINGED when he is challenged, rebuffed, corrected or told NO.

He KNOWS he is in way over his head. He KNOWS he isn't smart enough for this job. He KNOWS more people hate him than like him.

That is why he is devolving right in front of us.

leftstreet

(36,133 posts)
10. He's not devolving. He's getting stronger
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 07:33 PM
Feb 2017

The presser today shows how powerful he knows he is

He didn't even TRY to talk to most of us - just his base

Until the politicians, press and people hold him accountable he'll just get better and better at it

Maru Kitteh

(28,420 posts)
14. Disagree strongly.
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 09:13 PM
Feb 2017

Today's presser represents the complete failure of the moderating influences he has to thank for getting him this far.

I think Priebus is greatly weakened and Kellyanne Conway is slated for removal, and this spectacle today is the result of that.

Make no mistake, this press conference was the worst career decision since Baghdad Bob rolled on out to the airport.




Cha

(300,363 posts)
12. I was thinking "bullshit".. he knows he's a gd liar. he knows he
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 07:39 PM
Feb 2017

has to lie and brainwash because the truth doesn't get him anywhere.

Where's those tax returns?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
18. I would tend to agree with you.
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 09:25 PM
Feb 2017

Lying has been working for him for so long that he uses it as a defensive tactic. He doesn't believe that crap anymore than we do, but it's almost like he can go into a trance and convince himself of it when it works for him. He has no conscience and no morals. That is why he can do it so easily. He knows he's full of shit, but it's just another useful tactic in his bag of tricks.

Cha

(300,363 posts)
19. And, maybe now.. Finally the Lying isn't going to work on
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 09:33 PM
Feb 2017

a World stage like this.

He needs karma in kind for all the pain he's inflicted and has yet to inflict.

Cha

(300,363 posts)
26. I don't think we are by far the only ones who
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 11:24 PM
Feb 2017

would love to see that smug lying asshole go down in metaphorical flames.

GusBob

(7,305 posts)
9. Check out his lis when called out today, the electoral college numbers
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 07:30 PM
Feb 2017

Caught in that lie and cold stoned had no reply

marybourg

(12,762 posts)
11. Yes, he's absolutely convinced that what his right-wing donors
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 07:34 PM
Feb 2017

have whispered in his ears is true and if the media tells it otherwise, they're lying.

We see the same syndrome here in AZ with our state legislators and officials who also get their "facts" by this means. Of course, Faux News watchers exhibit this syndrome also.

It's an environmental disease, caused by living in a right-wing environment.

Kaleva

(36,858 posts)
13. Reading the posts in Freeperville is like visiting another world.
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 08:26 PM
Feb 2017

Over there, Trumps hit it out of the park with his presser today.

Stores can't keep Trump wine on the shelves because it sells out so quickly.

55% of likely voters approve of President Trump’s job performance.

and so on and so on and so on.



Kaleva

(36,858 posts)
23. I've added this OP to my journal just so I can easily find the video again
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 10:55 PM
Feb 2017

John articulates it in a funny way and so much better then what I could ever manage.

Thank you for that video!

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